en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1104555 Comments by bapman http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/i-wont-go-to-gaa-games-and-gay-events-says-uup-leadership-candidate-tom-elliott-14932960.html#IDComment96931464 What do you think you bigotted clot? Maybe that will clear things up for you. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:04:51 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/i-wont-go-to-gaa-games-and-gay-events-says-uup-leadership-candidate-tom-elliott-14932960.html#IDComment96931464 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/nortrhern-irelands-starting-lineup-werenrsquot-the-substandard-lot-wersquod-feared-14933470.html#IDComment96931229 Well done lads- bout time we had another tournament appearance Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:01:26 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/nortrhern-irelands-starting-lineup-werenrsquot-the-substandard-lot-wersquod-feared-14933470.html#IDComment96931229 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/in-pictures-republic-of-ireland-dig-deep-to-take-spoils-against-armenia-14933428.html#IDComment96931049 I agree with you and Georgie Best. He was an advocate for an All Ireland team - the greatest player never to play in a World Cup. With the size of the population, it would make sense to have a central structure which would be better resourced to identify and nuture talent. God knows the Irish league needs a kick up the backside - more people might actually start attending their matches in an All Ireland scenario - that would be a great catalyst for more money in the game and retaining more talent here. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 09:58:56 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/in-pictures-republic-of-ireland-dig-deep-to-take-spoils-against-armenia-14933428.html#IDComment96931049 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/i-wont-go-to-gaa-games-and-gay-events-says-uup-leadership-candidate-tom-elliott-14932960.html#IDComment96930362 Absolutely LD! You'll be the first to advocate Gaelic games then, which are non-sectarian, hugely entertaining and inclusive of all. I understand that people are rather good at it down your part of the world as well. First Minister and DFM material should be priveleged to attend all sports events - including significant GAA matches - such as the forthcoming All Ireland Final in Dublin. It is perhaps a long way off, but inevitable in the long run. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 09:49:35 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/i-wont-go-to-gaa-games-and-gay-events-says-uup-leadership-candidate-tom-elliott-14932960.html#IDComment96930362 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96891670 The only other group of far right lunatics I can think of within the UK and Ireland who treat a national flag like this are right wing pro Hamas militant Islamists. If anything, it is uniquely unBritish behaviour on these isles. If the bonfires are culturally and symbolically important, have them under safe conditions, but why burn the Irish flag and make such a show of it? Heres one; people in the free state don't give a crap. It makes the OO look bigoted, antequated, threatening and agressive - all around the world, and it is of course, all completely uncecessary. Shurely shome mishtake. The reality is that the OO are a weak and marginalised group in a small corner of Ireland, whose defining characterisitc is an anti Catholic agenda; again unique within the UK. A few of us are aware of a friendlier more inclusive side to Orangism, but its people on the ground within working/under class communities who need to start taking responsibility and stop behaving like utter clots, burning a flag that is held in such high regard by millions of people around the world. Small wonder tourism is dead on its ****. Thanks Billy! Sat, 4 Sep 2010 03:43:27 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96891670 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96890518 Do you actually pay any taxes? What sort of a comtemptable rationale is that? The cretins who as supposed community leaders, organise and light the bonfires on the doorsteps of their own unfortunate community should be left to extinguish and clean up their own filthy, sordid, pointless mess. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 03:30:59 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96890518 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96887994 The only other group of far right lunatics I can think of within the UK and Ireland who treat a national flag like this are right wing pro Hamas militant Islamists. If anything, it is uniquely unBritish behaviour on these isles. If the bonfires are culturally and symbolically important, have them under safe conditions, but why burn the Irish flag and make such a show of it? Heres one; people in the free state don't give a crap. It makes the OO look bigoted, antequated, threatening and agressive - all around the world, and it is of course, all completely uncecessary. Shurely shome mishtake. The reality is that the OO are a weak and marginalised group in a small corner of Ireland, whose defining characterisitc is an anti Catholic agenda; again unique within the UK. A few of us are aware of a friendlier more inclusive side to Orangism, but its people on the ground within working/under class communities who need to start taking responsibility and stop behaving like utter clots, burning a flag that is held in such high regard by millions of people around the world. Small wonder tourism is dead on its arse. Thanks Billy! Sat, 4 Sep 2010 03:16:32 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96887994 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96870364 Hey Lindy.... wait till ye hear this one... "This thread should have been about the news storey above - instead its about how evil are the RUC". For RUC read Priests and revert back to one of the bomber priest threads.. I have empathy with your frustration and, experiences and perspective, and would be grateful for the courtesy of yours. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:07:13 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96870364 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/contentious-march-is-halted-by-bomb-alert-14919547.html#IDComment96864750 You're right Kev - people should have more mutual respect for self determination - its a fundamental human right and a provision of the GFA. Northen Ireland never existed as a distinct political and geographical entity and never occupied the British or Irish collective psyche until partition actually happened - and that was dreamed up in Westminster!. It was deemed politically expediant to ensure Ulster Unionists power by the Gov't of the day, which has turned out a disaster. The last four words of your post... The supremism of a Unionist majority has gradually eroded since Craigavon. Its naive to think other wise and the only way to prevent that trend from continuing is for the Unionist population to start breeding like nationalists. Personally I think we should all start breeding together and forget about nationalities because it would work out better for the gene pool. Some of those free prebs north of lough neagh are headed for darwin award territory. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 01:46:56 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/contentious-march-is-halted-by-bomb-alert-14919547.html#IDComment96864750 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair-blasted-as-lsquonaiversquo-for-praising-sinn-fein-leaders-14931533.html#IDComment96857867 Jim you shouldn't make posts comin in from the pub after a few. Sat, 4 Sep 2010 01:16:59 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair-blasted-as-lsquonaiversquo-for-praising-sinn-fein-leaders-14931533.html#IDComment96857867 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96820226 Jeez pete I was not referring to you. Its the obtuse 'mick' comment from the knuckle dragger beforehand. You and your family have my sympathy and I hope yez have managed to cope and stick tight. Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:59:49 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96820226 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96815850 Don't wound up by that pillock ptg - there are some incurable bigots signed up with this rag - you shouldn't try justifying yourself to them. Imagine the sickness of his mind that reckon's that is even mildly amusing? Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:26:02 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96815850 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96813887 Get that man down the Empire! Arf Arf Arf! Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:08:57 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96813887 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96813506 Heard sectarian rubbish? Theres a fair amount of it on that bonfire. Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:05:40 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/crackdown-urged-as-bill-for-bonfire-callouts-hits-37m-14932446.html#IDComment96813506 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96811433 Don't despair my love! The perpetrators may well have doubled up as Catholic Priests. The scoundrels. Picked up on Fr Fell by the way - fair point. Fri, 3 Sep 2010 20:49:23 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ruc-gave-bookies-massacre-gun-back-to-loyalists-14932769.html#IDComment96811433 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/claudy-bombing-good-and-evil-werenrsquot-ever-black-and-white-14923126.html#IDComment96458715 D, you are welcome to attack me at your leisure. I get little satisfaction from it. I'm off to consider a new definition of racism. I briefly reviewed your input thusfar, then caught myself on. You may have the last word my dear fearful lady. Wed, 1 Sep 2010 18:37:24 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/claudy-bombing-good-and-evil-werenrsquot-ever-black-and-white-14923126.html#IDComment96458715 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/claudy-bombing-good-and-evil-werenrsquot-ever-black-and-white-14923126.html#IDComment96441631 You're talking about the dancing bear! I'm sectarian because i don't like what the OO stand for- as a Catholic? I must be a wrong'un. Take me away! You're impossible - get back to watching your dancing bear from your high horse! Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:37:53 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/claudy-bombing-good-and-evil-werenrsquot-ever-black-and-white-14923126.html#IDComment96441631 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/male-shame-14930529.html#IDComment96439624 Man are a primitive being. The urge to indulge in a spot of ball-fixing is as baffling as it is involuntary. Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:30:49 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/male-shame-14930529.html#IDComment96439624 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/claudy-bombing-good-and-evil-werenrsquot-ever-black-and-white-14923126.html#IDComment96428185 You've got a worse victimhood complex than most Catholics! Some very loaded comments there. Perhaps some individual bigots are being anti-catholic - but I wouldn't slur the whole of unionist society as such. Many ordinary Catholics are being vocal, many are disillusioned; The Church is in crisis (not because of Unionism) and there are no beneficiaries or justice for victims. Maybe we can agree on that point. I do not wish to offend you or unionism, and I have no doubt that you wouldn't wish that yourself, as I'm sure you're the concilitory sort. Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:48:49 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/claudy-bombing-good-and-evil-werenrsquot-ever-black-and-white-14923126.html#IDComment96428185 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/video-youtubes-loyalist-bear-shows-how-to-lead-the-sash-14930613.html#IDComment96421524 Don't be offended Dave. I'm just angry with the OO because they will let a bear join and not me. Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:24:58 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/video-youtubes-loyalist-bear-shows-how-to-lead-the-sash-14930613.html#IDComment96421524