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Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:27:04 +0000

So calling me a useful idiot is congenial but making an informed guess about his listening habits is rude. Hmm seems like the two standards you apply to all friends and foes.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:05:07 +0000

I didn't bring slavery up initially and show me where I "implied the racial collaboration between slavetakers and slaveholders is going on to this day". Don't misrepresent me. Your making a straw man to argue with. I was mainly responding to this - Ironically since Obama was descended from East African Muslims, his ancestors were probably capturing and selling their fellow non-Muslim blacks as slaves. - I would say all the things you accuse me of are actually in this post. As for hurrying to the nearest Mulsim country to make all righty..well maybe I have done something like this, you may be surprised, but why not follow the links and see how widespread modern slavery is from domestic slavery in Paris to prostitution in Romania to debt slavery in California.. A mistake it seems ideologues/feedback loopers on both sides fail to understand is that one may criticize the US without it making one unpatriotic or that you automatically have more sympathy for another country. Also one may agree partially, for instance I find Islamic religion's treatment of women appalling, I would not want to live in a country with Islamic law but I don't go so far as to say that Islam is by nature evil/dangerous or that Sharia law is a threat to the US.We are citizens of the same country with much of the same culture, let's find the areas we agree.

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:54:58 +0000

I actually kind of agree with the Cato stance on the voter ID issue, Look I try, and I know I often fail, to see things without ideological blinkers, I also see no point in denying the Koch's well documented. But thanks for a cordial conversation, I often drop bombs of rudeness to make people pay attention and be responsive, and at other times in sheer frustration at the tone and the hyperbole (btw I'm well aware that there huge numbers of retards doing the same thing from a supposedly liberal pov on other sites...the average IQ is only 100...) but I really just want some substantive discussion.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:48:07 +0000

JimBob I think you need to come up with a new thought...oh wait Rush isn't on yet..don't worry soon he'll maker the world a more comfortable and understandable place for a scared and confused little man like yourself when he dictates your thought for the day.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:45:57 +0000

Winoceros must be a new term for wino? Where am I fighting an abolitionist battle? Because I sarcastically point out inherent stupidity (and abject racism) in others posts you would expel me to a Muslim country? Wow a little extreme, I hope you never have claim to the executive powers discussed above, I'd be a gonner... As for slavery unfortunately it still exists all over the world, Muslim countries certainly included but they are far from alone. http://www.yale.edu/glc/events/cbss/Bales.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_slavery http://www.sgiquarterly.org/feature2011Jly-3.html http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/09/2...

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:36:47 +0000

Hmm I'm the one who brought up the suspension of due process on this page...and if you read my posts without the red mist over your eyes you'd see that I'm no fan of Obama and not a vote for him either..I try to be specific about my objections to the hyperbolic language here and the seeming lack of critical focus on ALL the players in govt...from what i can see the administrations may change but very little policy, especially overseas, does. But don't get me wrong, I prefer Obama to Perry or Bachman, though I think it would be hard to see much difference in action (all pols words are glib and meaningless) between an Obama and a Romney admin.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:57:51 +0000

You truly are a "useful idiot" ..just what Rush and Roger (Ailes in case it's a reference you miss) say about you.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:57:00 +0000

All liberal people do not frequent let alone agree with the majority of the posters at HuffPo..do not misrepresent me. The article above never directly implicates Holder, as you are surely aware the heads of huge organizations, be they govt agencies or corporations, are very adept at avoiding direct personal culpability, but I have no problem believing that he follows in the long line of AG's in overseeing criminal behavior and would have no problem seeing him run out of office. My biggest outrage, alongside most true liberals, with the Obama admin at the moment is over the suspension of due process. http://correntewire.com/will_i_spend_my_retiremen... I;m sure this is an area on which we can agree.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:43:26 +0000

And white liberals never vote for white candidates because you know they're not blacks deserving of sympathy.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:42:35 +0000

Yep Obama's father's ancestors were selling these people to his mother's ancestors. They've been collaborating forever.

Big Government : BREAKING: Confessions of Perjury Inside DOJ

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:41:20 +0000

Classy post Red. The bleating on and on about the Black Panther's case gets embarrassing. You may discount the OPR completely, I'm sure you believe that they are completely corrupt and that everyone who works in the govt willfully engages in criminal activity with no regard for their self-interest (ie doing all they can to avoid the possibility of a lengthy jail term when admins change) but here's a report from the Washington Post, who despite it's many faults has more credibility than Fox News. BTW Wasn't it Bush'd AG who had to resign due to a far more damning, widespread and provable act of corruption...hmm where you were then? http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-cle...

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:12:10 +0000

Re; women's sufrage - did you even open and read the link I sent? If you did you would see that many countries and districts were introducing women's suffrage, usually piecemeal, at the same time. Sending me a link which only references the timeline in the US is completely irrelevant. I'm not confusing anything, you are confused because you are determined to read more into what I'm saying than I am, this is no doubt because you have to project all the misinformation you have about liberals onto any discussion with one. I'll say it slowly - You claimed that the US set the bar for the enlightened world, I pointed out that although the US has been an undoubted leader in many areas and a source of hope for many in oppressed countries, the rest of the 'first' world has actually taken many different paths to the US in key areas. And also I pointed out that, unlike many who post here, we have never lived in a bubble and have always been engaged in exchange of ideas with other neighbors. Now where do I mention health care as it relates to liberty and entitlement?

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 02:28:12 +0000

Dear Mr Kerouac you're putting words in my mouth and imagining ideas in my head, Show me where I claim anything resembling "the Koch brothers are some shadowy puppet masters pulling the strings of the right"...your exaggerating and assuming. Ironically we agree about the key point - they are business men who are completely free to hold, express and attempt to impose their ideas in a legal manner. For the record I do not buy any conspiracy theories in which small groups of shadowy men actually run things. But massive exaggeration and the distorting of an opponent's poisition seem to be rampant in these here parts.

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:42:00 +0000

PS, but we did set the bar for the post enlilightened world.. well not really. The US has been a leading light in many areas of personal liberty but as a reading of the charts I sent you would show this has been in concordance and with a cross influence with of course France but also northern Europe and the English speaking nations in particular. Also the rest of the 'first' world, Europe, Canada, Australia, parts of Asia, have made very different decisions to the US on many issues from how to pay for health care and education to laws on 'moral' issues from drugs to sexuality to ethnic rights. The US has been leader in many areas but is not the final model.

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:35:38 +0000

I go back to your original quote that initiated this discussion " history has shown that power in any government is inversely proportional to the liberties of the people" Government is is essentially the majority of the people trying to exercise restrain and constraint on the absolute power of individuals. Many personal freedoms only exist due to the power of government to protect property and privacy. Government by it's nature is complicated and flawed but there is no simple formula that tells one what the perfect balance of personal freedom and the law.

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:25:42 +0000

If their personal political leanings weighed that heavily on them they wouldn't be giving ANY money to Democrats!! Firstly you oversimplify as there are many forms of Democratic politician from the Kucinich, Grayson end to the Max Baucuses and Evan Bayhs. Also I think you credit the vast majority of Democrats with far too much credit for any iota of ideological purity. These people, just like their Republican counterparts, are bought and sold entities in most cases working hardest for their own re-election. Of course the Kochs can do business with them without sullying their own agenda. I don't understand your confusion. You can proudly stand with the Koch Brothers, alongside Paul Ryan and Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh and many other conservative leaders. Why deny them? They are very successful and very powerful and probably agree with you on a hell of a lot of issues...

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:24:18 +0000

I don't hate you I just have no time for absurdities in politics. Yes of course I don' t frequent this site every day I have a job and a family but I like to spend some time here occasionally in the hope that I might punctuate some of the worst fantasies - ie that Obama is an equivalent to Mao, Stalin etc -, to put myself in a place where I have to defend my views and in the slightly vain hope that I'll learn something new.

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:20:07 +0000

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Koch_F... you do the math Just because theKoch's use their money to buy influence across the board it doesn't mean that a definite pattern can't be detected. i think you would find that they are offended by the idea that they have no ideological principle.

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:50:11 +0000

I appreciate your cordiality. I think you're confusing the role of power and govt. You claim that at the birth of this country we were free from govt power but we were not free from power. It needed the communal will of the people as expressed by govt to initiate freedom from massive private power which, in the form of monarchy, was the norm in much of the world and which due to the policies of the last thirty years is increasing at an alarming rate again. The US was not the first enact suffrage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women�... nor slavery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery...

Big Government : Rep Judy Chu (D-CA) Praises Attorney General Eric Holder, Ignores L.A. Voter Fraud

Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:00:52 +0000

Aahh I'm proven liar. Thank god for you. You can now discount everything else I have to say. Life is so simple when you know how.