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4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 0 replies · +1 points

That might be so. But its frankly barmy that someone who was arrested for plotting to blow up a building and planning to start up a terrorist training camp, could be released without any sort of check to see if he was safe to release.

I understand why its not a good idea to just lock someone up and throw away the key and not give them a chance to reform, but then they've got to have damn well proven that they've reformed and are not going to be a threat anymore.

I know we have done this sort of thing for serial killers. Its why some of them are never released. But I would have thought that it'd be common sense to apply the same sort of measures to a committed terrorist who'd been caught planning to do what he wanted to do.

Something has gone seriously wrong somewhere.

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 4 replies · +1 points

No he didn't stop posting fake news.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ikrd/fake-jeremy-corbyn-...

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 4 replies · +1 points

No he didn't. That was a fake tweet that someone made up about him. Its been reported in all the press that it was.

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 0 replies · +1 points

Well they can work but in this case it seems there was no scheme to decide if he was safe to release. He was just automatically released like any common or garden prisoner. Someone's head truly does need to roll for this.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/parole-board-s...

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 6 replies · +1 points

It seems that he was released automatically without any referral to the parole board to check to see if he was safe to release. How in the hell did this happen??? The man had planned to blow up the stock exchange, so how on earth did he just get waved through as being OK to release??? That's just madness!

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/parole-board-s...

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 1 reply · +1 points

I expect so. There's also going to be questions asked about why he was released when he still presented a threat.

Normally for these sorts of things they get given a sentence which they have to serve but can only be released after it if they can prove they are no longer a threat.

So why the release? That then ties into the desperate shortage of prison places and prison guards to manage them...

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 2 replies · +1 points

But that costs money too.

That's why the plan seems to have been release and not properly monitor and cover the problem up by pretending it doesn't exist.

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 1 reply · +1 points

It won't help. Once it comes out that they've been releasing prisoners early because they don't have the resources to keep them locked up, and that the probation service is a disastrous mess after a botched privatization to save money Johnson is going to get eaten alive.

I've said elsewhere on other forums that just hiring extra police officers is stupid because it only works if you put in the necessary resources into the other parts of the criminal justice system to make it function properly. Well now all the cutting and under-funding of the other parts of the criminal justice system are going to get a bright spotlight shined on them.

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 0 replies · +1 points

Ahh yes. I didn't even think about that (the blow up comment I mean).

4 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Terror attacks and the... · 4 replies · +1 points

There are certainly a lot more out there. Are they being closely monitored? Doubtful. That costs money.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/03/s...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/terro...

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