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8 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 1 reply · +8 points

At the very beginning of the book Vetinari and Drumknott have a conversation about the personhood of goblins and why they don't get as much of a fair shake as the other non-human races. Which then turns into a conversation about the ongoing troll drug problem, and then into a conversation about Vimes's upcoming leave of absence. It's presented in a way that when you're reading it it looks like they happen to be discussing three unrelated subjects one after the other, but in hindsight I think the juxtaposition is extremely suggestive.

8 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +11 points

Let's talk about Stinky.

He's not quite like the other goblins: he doesn't have a typical goblin name, he glows in the dark, he survives an attack that ought to have killed him.

And during his last conversation with Vimes, he says: "Remember a little boy? Little boy open book? And he see evil goblin, and I see nasty little boy!" -- which seems to be identifying himself with the picture of the goblin that frightened Vimes as a child. (And the picture was made up of little dots, which might have just been a printing technique, but taken with everything else I'm also reminded of the 17th-century engraving "Leviathan", which depicted a nation as an enormous man whose body was made up of the bodies of all the citizens...)

8 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 3 replies · +6 points

But I don't believe he didn't know these things. At the beginning of the book, when he and Drumknott are carefully not talking about the reasons he might hypothetically have sicced Vimes on the Shires, Vetinari spends at least as much time talking about the personhood of goblins as he does talking about the drug trade.

8 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +5 points

Vimes explicitly says that they've all got watches, in a context that makes it clear that the "they" in question are the watchmen who have been sent to round up the magistrates.

Presumably the watches were issued as Watch equipment (ahaha), rather than being personal items. I expect His Grace the Duke chipped in some money if the Watch wasn't able to cover the expense.

8 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 3 replies · +7 points

I don't think it makes sense as a signal to the watchmen; the whole operation is on a pre-set timetable, that's what all the watch-checking was about.

I interpret it as an improvisation by Vimes, on the grounds that here was a conveniently-located pile of flammable wood and a big fire would make the occasion more memorable (and maybe make a point about light being shone into things that had previously hidden in the dark).

8 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +6 points

In the scene where we learn that Jethro's been given a badge, he tells Vimes that there's not much work for him at the smithy at the moment, with the implication that he's still the smith as well.

9 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 1 reply · +10 points

As Mark noticed in the video, the Three Disgraces are a play on the Three Graces, the daughters of Zeus (or, depending on who you ask, possibly Dionysus or Helios) who have historically been popular subjects for artists of the "naked women are Art if there is a vase involved" school. Their names are another thing that varies depending on who you ask; Hesiod named them as Aglaea ("Splendor"), Euphrosyne ("Good Cheer"), and Thalia ("Festivity").

9 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +11 points

Stinky's conversation with Vimes includes references to two famous movie quotes: "I'm your worst nightmare -- a [racial slur] with a badge!", from 48 Hours, and "We don't need no stinkin' badges!", from The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

(They're both examples of movie quotes where the commonly repeated version isn't quite the same as the actual line in the movie, but I'm quoting the commonly repeated versions, since those are what Pratchett is playing on.)

10 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +3 points

There's also the bit in Moving Pictures where Ruby tells Detritus that romantic gifts include things like fancy boxes containing sticky things to eat, and Detritus's interpretation of "sticky things to eat" is flayed horse.

[edit: Though come to look at what Vimes said again, he was talking about dwarfs and said trolls have no use for horses, so this might actually be evidence against what he's saying.]

10 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +2 points

Somebody's committing an oversimplification here, but I'm not sure if it's you or them.