en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/196513 Comments by amazed http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/33594269.html#IDComment9763383 to dagar88..... you shouldn't have a job then if that's why you voted no for the contract to begin with! You are disgusting! Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:55:01 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/33594269.html#IDComment9763383 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/33594269.html#IDComment9763343 That's disgusting Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:54:05 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/33594269.html#IDComment9763343 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/33594269.html#IDComment9763213 If you want exec pay... become one!!!! Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:51:27 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/33594269.html#IDComment9763213 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9376483 You know this strike has hurt more people than just the Boeing Machinists and it's time to stop this nonesense and get back to work! VOTE YES!! I really don't know how much more the company is willing to give us and I don't see how people can really stay out any longer. If we are brothers and sisters shouldn't we think of other people as well... besides just our selfs?? I think continuing this will have the public really hating us and thinking we are totally crazy for turning down an offer like this. B the way Sabre.... how long have you been at Boeing? If you look at history... strikes never pay off in the end.... we always lose. Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:47:20 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9376483 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9375303 Again... please tell us what it will take for you to go back to work? Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:35:47 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9375303 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9375233 Wow, Sabre --- Sounds like you hate Boeing so much... question why are you still there? Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:33:50 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9375233 http://www.komonews.com/news/business/33512604.html#IDComment9354353 Please tell me what would get you back to work? Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:32:03 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/business/33512604.html#IDComment9354353 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9217663 so, cephas... what do we deserve.. and what is enough? Would like to know what your requirements are for returning back to work? And do you really think that Boeing will put another offer on the table if we stay out another 60 days? Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:07:46 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/33457899.html#IDComment9217663 http://www.komonews.com/news/33418244.html#IDComment9200993 So... if we turn this offer down Sabre... do you really think we will get that GWI of 30%..... doubt it!!! I think you need to come back to reality now. Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:16:10 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/33418244.html#IDComment9200993 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8987063 So.. tell me where do most of our plane orders come from? You need to look at the whole economic issue right now... world wide. I have it from a reliable source that there will be layoffs coming because alot of those orders that have been placed will not be able to be paid for and those orders will be cancelled. Boeing only has so much money that they can finance to the people who have bought planes who need financing now because the banks will not lend them the money due to the economic problems. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:24:14 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8987063 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8986633 Also.. rumor has it that there will be layoffs coming soon. Not all those planes that have been order will be able to be paid for... and then what happens?? Planes get cancelled... no more revenue... jobs bye bye. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:08:02 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8986633 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8986573 Happens to everyone... just not the people in the IAM Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:04:52 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8986573 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8984223 So question here.... what if that person who has to cross saved alot of money and then had emergencies that happened during the strike... i.e. a very sick child, spouse lost their job; a working spouse was killed? Would you still expect that person to not cross the line to support their situation? Why would we punish them when they had planned on supporting the strike and things happened that were beyond their control and they had to cross in the end? I don't think it is right to punish someone with penalties and not being allowed to get the same benefits once the strike was over. Afterall that person had planned on being out as long as it took, but things happened to them and it was not possible anymore. What is your response to that? Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:22:31 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/32630039.html#IDComment8984223 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30980974.html#IDComment8811773 And this is why the union needs to review the survey answers of what the membership feels is the top issue for this contract. Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:12:54 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30980974.html#IDComment8811773 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30980974.html#IDComment8811553 This is true... doctors and hospitals will not hold a bill for 45 days... so what do you do then cmiklich?? Also, I've been to the union hall to ask for help as well..... Nope.. didn't want to help me Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:58:14 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30980974.html#IDComment8811553 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30980974.html#IDComment8811533 key word here everyone... Salaries... Salaries that the union leadership is still be paid while we are out on strike. Seems fair... Nope!! Especially when we are only bringing home a $150.00 paycheck each week. I say FIRE the union and get a new one! Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:56:18 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30980974.html#IDComment8811533 http://dev.www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30920714.html#IDComment8623493 been there done that.... 4th strike for me too! So, I know what 69 days feels like.... H_LL!!!! And definitly not worth it! Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:12:46 +0000 http://dev.www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30920714.html#IDComment8623493 http://dev.www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30920714.html#IDComment8428833 all over outsourcing.. what a joke... soon there will be no jobs to outsource at Boeing... because they will be gone...... Oh and have you read the article in the Seattle Times today about SPEEA? At least their union takes care of them... if they go on strike and we are still on strike.. they still get to work under an expired contract.. and get to collect a check and continue negotiating... read on... The union officials made clear that if a strike happens it will come in January or February 2009 — starting at the beginning of the month, to retain medical insurance for the first weeks — and only after the Machinists strike is settled. As long as the Machinists are out, "we will continue to negotiate and draw wages," said Larry Marrell, of the SPEEA negotiating team. "There's no real leverage for us to go out on the street at the same time." Wow... wish our wonderful union would take care of us this way! Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:18:38 +0000 http://dev.www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30920714.html#IDComment8428833 http://dev.www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30920714.html#IDComment8428173 I'm afraid that alot of us are going to have to do this as well. I mean really how much longer are we expected to hold out? This union is horrible, and we should be allowed to see what both sides had to say... not just one side. The union wants way to much and now they realise that it isn't possible to get everything that they have said they can get us. I'm afraid that the outsourcing issue is never going to be solved and the union may be broke over this issue because no matter how much you have saved... the savings goes away eventually and then you have no more savings... so, union... what then???? Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:58:10 +0000 http://dev.www.komonews.com/news/boeing/30920714.html#IDComment8428173 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/30913924.html#IDComment8424443 and how does everyone feel about this information in regards to SPEEA? The union officials made clear that if a strike happens it will come in January or February 2009 — starting at the beginning of the month, to retain medical insurance for the first weeks — and only after the Machinists strike is settled. As long as the Machinists are out, "we will continue to negotiate and draw wages," said Larry Marrell, of the SPEEA negotiating team. "There's no real leverage for us to go out on the street at the same time." SPEEA will get to continue working even though their contract is expired... wow.... I'm glad our union is looking out for us! Let's pave the way for SPEEA while they get to collect their checks. Sounds fair to me! NOT! Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:13:23 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/30913924.html#IDComment8424443