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13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
Here’s my friend’s opinion: “Is it not their right to dress how they please? While it does possibly offend another group of people, I find it equally disturbing that they can't express their freedom to choose what they wear.”
Though I can agree that there is a degree to which people should have the right to express their opinion and wear what they choose, the issue as Sam stated in class in the mimicking of a stereotypical caricature. Even then I believe the picture wouldn’t pose as much of an issue compared to the incorporation of the signs.
Why is the picture a problem and not merely just stating an opinion? For the same reason it’s not acceptable for the president to use derogatory terms when referring to immigrants or Muslims. He’s the guy that represents our country, just as Chi-O represents their sorority on a national level and even Penn State to an extent. So, naturally probation is deserved in my mind.
So why are the signs themselves offensive? “Will mow lawn for weed and beer” in combination with “I don’t cut grass, I smoke it” allows me to deduce the following: Mexicans are known for cutting grass, smoking weed, and drinking beer. First off, the references to drugs and alcohol are only mildly offensive as they make a false blanket statement. Second, from personal experience I know that landscaping a position that is prime for someone who can’t legally work in the US, and considering the controversy surrounding illegal immigration it’s not difficult to fill in the gaps. The signs poke at the idea that Mexicans are known for being here illegally, smoking weed, and drinking beer. Because they are depicted in this way as unproductive illegal immigrants, it upsets the legal immigrants who are legitimate heard workers. All it really takes to make any racial or cultural group angry is to throw a stereotype in the mix.
It’s one thing to tell a racist joke to your friends, but to publicly represent yourself as insensitively stereotyping is where the ice gets thinner. On top of that, the idea that a group representing a larger faction would openly make such a bold move is a sure way to get a whole lot of negative attention. Biggest mistake here: taking the picture and having the audacity to post it. If they do remain a chapter, I suggest they get rid of their publicist/historian.
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
We can rightly justify many actions as being defensive, but what is it exactly that we’re defending? I define my life as not just living in itself, but all things surrounding how I live my life and what makes it possible. Food and shelter are what we need by definition, but there are a few other components that people are much more willing to kill for.
Money is the root of all evil, but it makes the world go round. We always want more, but can’t stand to have less. More money means our standard of living increases, whereas less means a decrease: an unfamiliar discomfort that many people can’t stand to weather. Sure, you can always work harder and try and get more money, but just look at the ease associated with theft, extortion, corruption, etc. Sure they’re illegal, but look at the payout in successful cases! Of course, then there’s the case of the person who is being robbed or extorted. Their livelihood is being threatened just as well, and murder is just another law to break. I, personally have no desire to end the life of another person, unless mine is threatened and it’s my life vs. theirs. If there were no other options and the way in which I live my live is at risk of being drastically and irreparably changed for the worse, I may consider murder as an option.
Love can be as toxic as it can be beautiful, and it is exponentially more likely to drive people to murder than money. Pitting lovers against spouses is deathly as is, but some people deem it necessary to simply kill one or the other quietly other than directly confronting the actual situation. Then there is the much more practical situation, in which someone you love’s life is at risk. Personally, I could see myself killing for the second reason, but absolutely not the first.
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
Just as we see the evil of al-Qaida and Jihad embodied in the radical Muslims who proclaim “death to America”, they see the evil of capitalist greed and missionaries embodied in Evangelical Christians who claim the Muslims worship a false God. Whenever these hate-filled statements are made I see no immediate backing. I hear no facts or reasons because they don’t need to be. The reasons are implied: innocent people have died. We can say that since we have occupied their territory, they are mad; since we are taking their oil, they are mad; because we are killing their people, they are mad. Now that’s fine and dandy and justifies anger and insurgency now, but 9/11? How can you attempt to look any mildly patriotic American in the eye and tell them “well, we had it coming.” Now, I have no doubt that Sam has the audacity to do such a thing, but I personally can’t do it. I cannot look at what damage they’ve done and say we’ve done the same. At this point, I’m almost certain that the cause of this is bias in the sense that I live here and I don’t witness what’s happening in the Middle East the way Arab Muslims do.
So let’s take a step back; completely ignore the implications of the bias and hate, but look at the bias and hate itself again. Extremists fuel the bias, soldiers fuel the disdain. On one hand we have nut-jobs saying they want to kill someone, and on the other we have nut-jobs actually killing someone. This was the generalization that I got from Sam’s lecture. In this sense, it was eye-opening as I had never viewed Christianity as being as extreme as it can be seen from the eyes of a Muslim. To reiterate: the parts of the lecture that I just couldn’t get were the victimization of Muslims while parties on their end had also victimized us. By emphasizing the play of oil (and its relative location) in the conflict I felt that Sam was trying to make us the bad guys. Whether this was his intention or not, I didn’t like it.
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
So why do people still think being gay is a choice? Lack of empathy. If you are strongly attracted to the opposite sex, then how the hell can you empathize with someone who is attracted to the same sex? For those hardcore heterosexual Christians out there (present!); you can say claim that you have no opposition or prejudice against gays but that doesn’t mean you understand them. I do not find men attractive. I sometimes even find it difficult to tell how attractive one male is to another. I simply don’t know what to look for. I don’t know see anything in a man that I am attracted to or aroused by, so I simply lack the capacity to tell what about a male is attractive. I do however, see vast amounts of attractive features in women, enough in fact that my state of mind becomes “what the hell do you see in men that you like better than women!?” I can say that I choose to like women, but if I find women exponentially more attractive than men, how can I possibly choose men? But why do I find women attractive? Was it taught? Was it in my genetic coding? For the majority of heterosexuals in the world, both cases apply. So from this, we can imply that gay behavior can be either taught or genetic. However, the taught scenario may lead to the conclusion that gay behavior can still be a choice. To counter that, let’s look at other bizarre attractions: fetishes. As someone who has a fetish, I can easily say that it sure as hell isn’t a choice. I would find the most accurate description to be how Sam presented it in class: it just happens. You see something, and you become aroused. It is not something you choose to be aroused by, it simply just happens. Some theorize that these attractions are caused by some experience at an early age, but even if this is true it is not something that is a choice.
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
To take this even further, imagine the case in which the mother to be was raped. Out of context, in a world where everyone is fit to care for their child, we may be able to agree that the child should be born. However, this is without taking into account the means by which conception occurred let alone numerous other factors. Since this was already discussed in class I’m going to move onto another argument: gay marriage.
Why do people fight against gay marriage? I’ve had the discussion with several people who are against gay marriage and what it strictly comes down to is religion and set beliefs. Marriage is thought to be a very intimate legal and personal binding of two persons who care for each other more than themselves. God and the bible tell us that it should only be between a man and a woman. Simple biology tells us it should only be between a man and a woman. What should really be asked is what is the absolute negative consequence of allowing two persons of the same sex get married? First answer and probably the most widely accepted because of its logic: because they can’t have children. Not to state the obvious, but I believe that if two persons of the same sex are in a relationship they, and the rest of the world, realize that they cannot have children. To look at it from their standpoint: we are discriminating against homosexuals ad denying them the same benefits as a heterosexual married couple based solely on the fact that they cannot have children. A specific case would be euthanasia of one member of a homosexual relationship. Suppose one partner had told another to pull the plug when the time comes, but low and behold they are denied the right because they are not a next of kin or spouse. All because they’re the same sex, and certain members of society have publicly labeled their relationship as wrong. Seems kind of messed up, especially if you’re unable to step outside of your personal beliefs (which may or may not hold any solid or logical backing) and attempt to empathize with anyone in such a situation.
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
The main point that I believe Sam drilled on class Thursday was the idea that we identify best with people who are most like us. Because we cannot simply meet and know everyone we come in contact with on a personal level, this starts first with people who look like us. So, naturally white people will “side” with the white guy over the black guy. Though this is a rather profound statement that doesn’t account for several variables, just think about Sam’s example of the white shop-lifter who used his black friends as a distraction. It’s as if we are subconsciously taught that black people are more likely to be criminals than whites. This again goes back to my post last week, which refers to our educators on this matter as none other than the media and the general populace. Even going back to the video shown last week: when a black guy seen committing the same crime as a white guy has the cops called on him while the white guy slides. So we’re racist… oops. Now what does that do besides sabotage our first impression of every person of color that we’ll ever meet?
On the social level blacks are viewed as more violent and prone to crime. From my perspective, this creates a barrier of uneasiness and hesitation in interacting with black people which leads to a whole other mess of issues. Leading into economics: if black people aren’t viewed as equals to white people, then they’re likely to miss out on opportunities such as jobs, college, etc. which would lead to the decline in social class for many black people. Which would then, in turn lead to the self-fulfilling prophecy and stereotype of lazy back people on welfare (I’m only trying to make an example, this isn’t a generalization). This could then be brought back to Sam’s king of the mountain and staircase metaphor. We can stand on top, and tell black people to work harder and make it to the top, but in reality we’re going to either be a step ahead or kick them back down. Politically, the idea of latent racism makes more of a mess than racism itself. People try to correct for latent racism pre-emptively through programs and racial handicaps which are used as cushion whenever someone finds it necessary to pull the race card. Affirmative action would be the greatest example of this. Does it make sense? No. Can we openly say it doesn’t make sense and criticize the fact that people of color get the advantage? No, that would make us racist. Though this isn’t exactly an example, I also recall during Obama’s election campaign I had heard several people claim that they were voting for Obama because if they didn’t it would be racist. When it comes to the point that we’re so afraid of latent prejudice, that we start to change our line of thinking based strictly on trying to not be racist, there’s a problem.
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
Before it looks like I’m defending the seemingly racist nature of the white persons depicted in the film, it has to be questioned if this truly does constitute racism. If blacks are constantly presented as wrong-doers and criminals, then we will project that stereotype unto all black people regardless of their personality or actions. In turn, what this comes down to is statistics and the media, which in turn again may eventually come down to racism… To skip a few steps: from what I gather, we can trace our racism all the way back to slavery and our self-proclaimed superiority over Africans. Was it taught? Was it passed down? Was it something we just couldn’t shake regardless of those who tried to change our opinion? I think that our subconscious nature which leads us to these views may be just that: subconscious. So my conclusion is… inconclusive. Are we racist? – Define Racism.
So if our prejudice towards African Americans is actually “subconsciously” rooted back to slavery and Jim Crow, are we to blame? Or is it simply a stereotype that we grew up with and pass on in the vicious “racism” cycle? As a final note, what I find more shocking is the idea brought up in class that blacks are aware of racism and not only have learned to accept it, but are encouraged to work harder because of it. Does this mean that everyone is simply accommodating racism? Are we adapting to prejudice? Too many strange questions…
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From the Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ World In Conversation - What are your thoughts... · 0 replies · +1 points
I know this is a rather round-about way to respond to the posed question, but I thought that a simple “the commenters are shallow minded and can’t see the bigger picture” wouldn’t quite be as interesting of a read.