en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/764315 Comments by alive2livin https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/tent-cities-in-haiti__trashed/#IDComment69098386 I also enjoyed the lecture about Haiti that we had today. We really are very negligent of the caliber of the disaster and by comparing it to a September 11th in our country it really beings to hit home. We can see how devastating it really was for people to recover from something so terrible its almost unimaginable. I am grateful to see the resiliency and drive that these people have to continue their lives in spite of disaster. They just want things to go back to normal and even though that probably won't happen for years down the road there they are trying to make do with that they have. I am happy to see that they are continuing business and doing all that they can do to make things a little better for themselves, their families and their economy to gradually recover, slowly but surely. Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:44:37 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/tent-cities-in-haiti__trashed/#IDComment69098386 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/how-am-i-not-a-racist__trashed/#IDComment69097376 I agree as well. We are a powerful country and we do have many more resources and opportunities that help us to become successful in the society that we live in today. And your right, its hard not to feel a little superior to other people, but does that really mean we are racists? I mean I would say its more ethnocentric than racist to be honest. I mean as long as we care about other countries and we don't try to take them over completely and make slaves out of the people, I don't see why we should necessarily label our selves as racist. Its crazy to think that because we are to the point where our standard of living is much higher than some of those developing countries and we have a sense of security about that fact and we feel lucky to be able to have freedom of speech and all sorts of other things that we are discriminating other countries and other peoples because of race. I am thankful everyday that I was born in to America and realize how lucky I am to be here. I think that as long as we are thankful and don't hurt or feel more rightful to certain things than people of other countries we are not racist, we are human. Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:35:23 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/how-am-i-not-a-racist__trashed/#IDComment69097376 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/tent-cities-in-haiti__trashed/#IDComment69095614 That truly is amazing. People are so resilient even in the toughest times of their lives and they continue to thrive and make do with what they have, even if they have lost everything or almost anything. The lecture in class today about Haiti really hit home for me. I guess I had become one of those people who had let the knowledge of yet another natural disaster effect me for a few days and then moved on with my life because forgetting about it is much easier to do than to actually get up and do something. Yeah I contributed money and prayed for the victims, but I didn't really think about all of the people who died and were injured and lost someone in that earthquake. I feel like the lecture today helped me to see how sad the situation there is. There are so many people who don't have anything but the knowledge that they survived the earthquake and some of their families, friends, relatives, coworkers all could have perished in that disaster and they were lucky enough to survive. All of the pictures of the people who were standing on piles of rubble, looking at their world now and how it once had been was truly eye opening. I cannot possibly imagine the pain and the hurt of the people who lived there who barely caught a break before their world was destroyed yet again. In that situation however I would be doing the same thing that all of these people have been doing and that is making the best of it. I can't say that I know what its like to go through that but I can say that I empathize with the people who are just doing whatever they can whether that be making a beauty salon or charging cell phones. It depresses me to think about the things that we talked about in class about the fact that many of the NGO's are just making a big problem bigger by hurting the economy. I never thought of it that way. I just assumed that by handing out rice and water and other necessities to the people there was the best we could do. I never took the standpoint of it hurting their economic status. I understand now that what we need to do down there is more intensive than just funneling money to ourselves and organizations that send things. I know that being a poor college student I can't really afford to do much because just going down there and helping would be over my budget. All I can hope for is that other people who are pretty well set and have extra time on their hands would consider doing more for the people and at least maybe give a little time to help these people. It just is the right thing to do. People were talking in class today about why they should care about these people and what happening and Sam is right. The whole, do unto the least of these is what you would have done unto me thing comes right back in our faces. would we not want other countries to help us in our times of need? Of course we would, so why would we not care about something terrible that has happened to another country... especially one that is right outside of our boarders. Its amazing how ignorant people can be even if the problem is pushed right in their faces. Yes we have our own problems but what about these poor people living in tents... for possibly years? Who is going to stand up for them? Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:24:55 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/tent-cities-in-haiti__trashed/#IDComment69095614 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/women__trashed/#IDComment68299965 She is very right. Women are all beautiful no matter what they look like. Its not just women either, men are handsome in some regard as well. Women have such a hard time finding their place in an ever changing society because the thoughts and preferences of people will always be changing. Its easier to say that women just need to realize that they don't need to conform to societies norms of beauty and just be happy with themselves because being a woman I know that is extremely hard to do. The constant pressure to be something that you can only dream of being is hard to do and also putting those thoughts out of your mind is harder yet. But she is right, women are all beautiful in every way that they allow themselves to be. They are each unique and big, small, tan, pale, kinky hair, straight hair, slanted eyes every women has features that make them who they are. I just wish it were easier to realize that in our society. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:24:37 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/women__trashed/#IDComment68299965 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68299190 We have made a good thing into a bad thing with this war. We may have helped lives and done some good things for our country as well as theirs, but in the long run we have created more havoc and chaos by just having our presence in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq. The things that our soldiers have done in order to get "prime suspects of terror organizations" have just created more people who are willing to lay down their lives for their country and their cause. We know that everyday we kill people who are completely innocent from the crimes that we have placed on certain people in their country and we are willing to keep doing that until we get where we want to be with our oil and our resources that we are taking from them. When will it stop? Will it ever stop? Will we have to kill everyone in their country in order to get what we want? Its pathetic how much we are willing to do to have one resource that we can live without with more research. The truth is we're making it worse, but who knows whether leaving will make it worse or better. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:16:50 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68299190 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68297808 This lecture did give me a new perspective on what the people over there feel like everyday when we come over and invade their land, kill their friends and families an is essence ruin their way of life so that we can continue with ours. Its sad to think that it takes so much pain and suffering of others in order for us to feel comfortable and safe in our own home. People are used to thinking that the people over there who are fighting against our soldiers and against our cause are bad and evil people. They really are not bad, nor evil people they are just fighting for what they believe in and trying to protect their families and their rights to their own land. Its hard to think in the same way that they are evil when you put yourself in their shoes and see what we are doing, us, the Christian Invaders who have come to steal their resources. All they want is peace, all they want is their country back to the way it was and to have their families back together their home fixed from shambles and safety for everyone that they know and love. We went over their for our own selfish cause as the main reason and though I have so much respect for our soldiers and our leaders I believe that we have taken our interests too far. We have stopped thinking about how much we are effecting the lives of all of those people, arabs and middle easterners alike and begun to only continue for our own self interests. I know that wars are going to happen and that there are some things that a country as powerful and needy as ours needs to survive and prosper, but we didn't weigh all of the costs that we have ensued to these people over the years. We have created this monster of ourselves and we have been over there so long that we can't just reverse the happenings. We messed up by taking our self interest as more important that civilians lives in another country. Nothing is more important than the lives of other people. For the most part, people don't know the whole story and are brainwashed to think that everything our government does is right, when in truth it makes mistakes and so have a lot of people and we've gotten to the point where we should just stop, but we can't. We can see what its like for them, we can see how we are trying to make a difference but in truth are just justifying our reason for ruining the lives of other people... I understand how they feel. I can see and imagine their pain and I wish we would stop this war but can we now that we have gotten ourselves so far into it? Who knows... Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:02:45 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68297808 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66252372 Yeah, you weren't kidding. This is disgusting. I can't believe that there are people who actually support this kind of game in any situation. I don't care if the person playing it has a lot of sexual tension or whatever in their life and this is the only way they can relieve it, its wrong and they know it. I mean to be honest its not as bad as it could be but the truth is there are way too many innocent minds who could be corrupted by a game like this. I mean in most cases parents will buy there kids whatever video games they want just so they don't have to deal with the whining of the child anymore. People don't realize how much dangerous stuff there is on the internet and in video games. They don't understand how something as silly as a television or computer screen can effect a child or teens mind. Its absurd to think that people support this game because it could be helping someone who really needs to just get it out and abuse a women, without actually hurting anyone. But who knows how much this story could brainwash the person and all of those video game rape/molesting if women could really get someone hurt or even killed in the future. The video game industry is very interesting coming from a psychological standpoint. Its amazing how the content of a game can effect so many people and have such a drawing to them. People wait in lines for hours, even days at a time for new video games and computer games that come out in stores. I mean I have played my fair share of video games in the past mostly mario brothers, halo, and crash cart. I realize that most of the stuff on there is fake and has no intention of brainwashing a person in any way shape or form, just to occupy time. But a rape game?! Who ever thought that was a good idea is an idiot and I will not be ashamed to say it. Thats just so absurd. Do they want to create more petafiles, rapists? There is so much violence, hate and crime in our society already with all of the things that we see on television and through video games like grand theft auto, doom and call of duty. People don't think anymore, we're so inclined to just go with whims nowadays. I hope that the japanese government really thinks about this problem. I mean I don't believe that this sort of game would ever come to american homes, at least I would hope, but there are people out there who would love to play this game. Its a sick and twisted reality that people would actually want to play a game where the whole idea is to rape and abuse women to win. I hope something happens to stop this from coming to our country. Rapist go to jail, they are not welcome in society, why would we give them an outlet to vent their sick desires? Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:34:22 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66252372 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/is-quality-the-question__trashed/#IDComment65619346 Affirmative Action is dangerous to our system I believe. I agree with you, if there are people in the field who are more qualified than the another person who only got the job because they are of a different race and they want to promote more equality in the workplace. I believe that the most qualified person should have the job especially in something like the medical field. I know that affirmative action was put into place because it gave people who would not normally be given a job are placed ahead of people who would have been given the job just because they are already in that range. I understand that its going to try to make the situation better for some people and if they are more qualified, good for them. I just don't see how people think its fair that others should get a job that they rightfully earned by doing a good job and trying really hard in their life. I don't believe affirmative action is necessary in as many situations that it is put in to practice with. If they really wanted things to be fair they would just let things go, because its luck of the draw where your are born, nothing anyone can really do about it cause its just fate. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:15:28 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/is-quality-the-question__trashed/#IDComment65619346 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-if-we-got-rid-of-welfare__trashed/#IDComment65610414 To be honest if we shut down welfare completely it would create a lot of mass chaos. For some people, welfare is the only reason that they are able to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. There are thousands of poor people in this country alone who are not able to hold a job or just don't have enough education to get a job that can support their family so they live on welfare until A. They are able to finish an education and be able to get a job or B. find another system where they can get money to support themselves which is probably very difficult. To be honest I don't believe getting rid of welfare would help anyone in anyway. Yeah, it would lower taxes by a significant amount for those of us in the working class, but we would see a complete influx in the amount of people who would now be forced to get jobs because they couldn't survive. What we need is a new system that greater filters through the people that apply for government aid. This way we could have out cake and eat it too. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:43:57 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-if-we-got-rid-of-welfare__trashed/#IDComment65610414 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/revisioning-the-revisioning-stage__trashed/#IDComment65608817 Its interesting that you bring this up. As for me, I was brought up in an entirely opposite community. I went to a predominately white school in a predominately white town. We didn't have much diversity in my school in particular because we were mostly suburb and a rural community. I feel like I was sorta held back in my stages of how we view race because I was not able to get enough experiences with the people who were of a different race than me. I mean I knew that people of other races existed but because I was brought up in a really white area I just saw white people as the dominate group, even most of the television shows I watched were composed entirely of white people. The reason why I took this race relations class was because I was interested in learning about other races of people and trying to get past what had been instilled in my mind as a white person. The only experiences that I did have with people of a different race was when we would go on vacation or go to the city where there was much more diversity in the people. One might think that because of this I would have become really racist because most of of my experiences and memories with white people but honestly it made me have the utmost respect for people of color I believe. I think it was because of my lack of experience with people of color that I began to want to know more, even though I did not go out of my way to seek out and become friends with these people I did want to learn. Through this class I have finally been able to see how bad race issues can sometimes be. In all honesty, I didn't even really know about race issues such as in the criminal justice system and so forth until I took a sociology class in high school. I feel sorta bad that It has taken me to long to become immersed in people of other races and ethnicities, but I mean there was nothing I could really do about it when I was younger. I feel like I am still a little behind everyone else in the stages that Sam has been talking about because I really wasn't given the opportunity to gain insight into people of other races world. I don't know if I will ever live in a community that is not predominately white, maybe I would be a little uncomfortable with it at first but at least I know I could be accepting and get used to it. I'm sure that if I had been brought up in a more diverse community, I wouldn't even have these thoughts about what my childhoods "whiteness" so to speak would have impacted me. I'm glad to hear the perspective of someone who has grown up white in a mostly multiracial community. To be honest I think thats better than being forced into a society where white is the only thing you know. Because at least you have a understanding about people of other races. I wish I could say that I had that, I might be a better person if I had... but I can't say because I don't know. And about the lion king thing, I have to say that I loved the Lion King. I don't believe that Disney is trying to be racist when their movie was about animals rather than people. Its a children's story, to be honest kids are more easily able to relate to animals sometimes than other people. Why do you think that kids after watching that movie wanted to be lions themselves? I see what you mean about the it being sad that their first one from africa was about animals and all, but disney is very children oriented. They are good wholesome movies for the whole family and since the lions were the main character, the humans would have been bad guys. An because most of the people who live there are dark skinned they would have been seen as the bad guys. Why would they want to instill in little kids heads that the "dark skinned" people were the bad people? But whatever, just my opinion. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:34:49 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/revisioning-the-revisioning-stage__trashed/#IDComment65608817 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-are-all-of-you-thinking-about-asians__trashed/#IDComment63894125 I have noticed that he does seem to skip over the fact that Asians are their own group. I mean I don't consider them to be black or brown, nor do I consider them to be on the white team as Sam so often puts it. They are their own being in themselves. I mean other than the fact that by saying brown he is talking about all people who are not black or white they are none of the above or somewhere in between. I think that at Penn State especially it would be difficult to be an Asian American person and so often get confused with the people who are from over seas and are very "Asian". I mean you walk around Penn State Main and you see groups of native asian kids speaking in a different language and they all seem to crowd together. Its almost hostile how much they don't try to integrate with the rest of the population. But I guess when you are in a foreign country you almost have to find people who you are comfortable around so that you can do what makes you you. I feel bad for the American born Asians who are sometimes pushed into that group even if they can't relate to them at all other than having a similar appearance. I just wish there was less attempt to force a person into a group just because they are asian and they look similar. Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:35:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-are-all-of-you-thinking-about-asians__trashed/#IDComment63894125 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/native-hawaiians-ever-think-of-them__trashed/#IDComment63892378 I am glad that the government is finally taking the initative to make the lives better for US citizens who still have not gained full rights. I hope that because our president is Hawaiian and he has some ties to the unfortunate people from that area he will be able to influence the equality that so many of those Hawaiians have probably strove for for years. I can understand why they would want to finally be able to have rights like other US citizens and be able to be educated and learn about their culture other than what they may have learned by living on a beach. Its sad that It has taken up to 2010 for people to actually take this into perspective and be able to recognize these people are not able to live the same lives that other US citizens have been able to live for years now. I am a little disappointed in the fact that it took the president of the US to have ties to Hawaii in order to make something happen in the Native Hawaiian communities, but at least now there is something being done to help these people in need. I hope to hear in the future that this bill was passed and these people, these US citizens will be able to truly become US citizens, and take full advantage of all of these opportunities. Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:21:07 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/native-hawaiians-ever-think-of-them__trashed/#IDComment63892378 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/whats-the-big-deal-with-periods__trashed/#IDComment63889981 I was intrigued at the reactions that some people had about the fact that sam talked about periods during class. I must say that I was a little disgusted by the fact that he would want to look in the toilet after she was bleeding. I mean yes it is beautiful in a way because its something that the female body does and no male on the planet can ever know what it is like to bleed for a week every month. I mean but really, if he thinks that that is normal in any way shape or form then he is pretty much wrong, thats not a normal choice to want to do. But getting back to the fact that there were so many people who were appalled by the fact that he was talking about period was what made me begin to think. I mean if you look at this from a womens standpoint I feel like they were more offended by what he was saying than the males in the room were. I would have thought that men would have been more disgusted by it, but the fact that he was talking about his wife on a topic that I'm sure she wouldn't approve of is a little disturbing to me but I mean I accept him for who he is. He's just talking about what he believes is true and from what he understands. I do have to side with most of the upset women in the room. I mean its not something that we flaunt or like to talk about because its gross. I don't want to talk about a mans sweat in class, and nor do I want to talk about period blood. I mean I guess I should be more thoughtful about the fact that we are so trained in this society to not tell anyone that we are on our period unless we are asked. Its just not something that you share. And yes its natural and sometimes you can't always hide a mood swing or a leak, but really I bet if any women could stop their period from happening and still be able to bear children and be female in a sense I have a feeling that they would do a lot to achieve that. I know that to him it might be alright to talk about it to the class because he really doesn't care. I just wish that he would have seen the reaction coming before he started talking. I mean there were people who were so disturbed that they were leaving the classroom before it ended. To be honest I wasn't offended by what he said, In fact I was one of the students who raised their hands saying that I am on my period this week. I mean I was nervous about it because thats not something that you really share with other people but its alright, whatever. I tend to be pretty chill about it but I guess its just a little weird to be proud and announce it and let everyone know about it when most of the time we are trying to hide it from the world. Maybe it should be more accepted its true but even if it were more acceptable to talk about, I still don't think I would. I just hope at least some people found that little in class discussion eye opening and it wasn't just a waist of time. Cudos to Sam for talking about something that no one else would, I just wish it were something a little less disturbing to some listeners possibly next time. Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:01:36 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/whats-the-big-deal-with-periods__trashed/#IDComment63889981 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment62798556 Truthfully I beleive that it comes down to the fact that white people and black people have different sorts of things that set them off. If I were to say somthing that was racially hurtful or discriminatory to a person of color they are trained to go on defense mode, because in most situations that is what they have done all their life because there is a lot of discrimination still in the world today and they feel like they have to protect themselves from what they have gone through at other times in their lives as to not be hurt again. A white person on the other hand has not faced the types of things that a black person has and they are more likely to shrug it off and not let it bother them because most of the time they don't really need to deal with stuff like that as often. White people seem to have this underlying mindset that they shouldn't let things like this bother them because they don't have to deal with it nearly as much as i'm sure people of color do. Even white people get upset when people are not treating people of other skin colors differently because everyone knows that is wrong and they try to make themselves feel better about it because they are trying to lessen the guilt that they sometimes feel by sticking up for the black people more than the white. Hence the reason for the uproar with the black comments but barely anything with the white comments. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:55:07 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment62798556 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/prom-or-no-prom-just-dont-let-the-queer-students-dance-together__trashed/#IDComment62797614 This is utterly ridiculous. I can't believe that the school board would cancel prom because she was going to go with her female partner. How can people be so ignorant to the ways that people act and behave? I really don't understand why they would punish the entire school and cancel prom because she wanted to go. people who are lesbians or gay should have just as many rights as those of us who are heterosexual and just because it goes against the norms doesn't make it wrong, it just makes it unique. Its not like they were going to make the entire school watch them have sex or something like that. They just wanted to go together with someone that they have a relationship with and dance with to have a good time. No one should be able to take that away from the school because its not the norm. I hope that this school district got its moneys worth in law suits because this is really not fair to anyone in the situation and I hope that they regret being so ignorant. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:47:31 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/prom-or-no-prom-just-dont-let-the-queer-students-dance-together__trashed/#IDComment62797614 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment62796547 This is a great story. I honestly didn't even know that there were many women's football teams at all let alone know that there are some amazing people who come out of them like this women here has. She is an excellent role model for women as well as those of her race and ethnicity. I honestly am very interested to see the outcome of what she had to offer that school in Washington and I hope that she is able to prove herself as just as good as the male coaches that dominate the system in football and many other well recognized sports. I am also glad that I was able to hear about this story because it really is an amazing thing when a woman is able to step up to the plate and do a good job and get hired to do something that very very few women have ever been able to achieve and/or get recognized for. I agree that she does come off as very shy and reserved and probably the opposite of what one would think of as a football coach, but the truth is people are alot different when they are doing something that they love to do, and I'm sure that you cannot be a very good football player if you are really shy and meek. I have no doubts that when she puts those pads on and gets psyched up for the game she is not the same person that she comes off as in real life. I wish her the best with all that she does and I hope that what she does with the team will be able to open up the eyes of so many people who believe that the game of football is a male dominated field. Coaching is a huge responsibility and how well your team does it what influences your fame with the parents and fans of the team but also how people tend to look at you. Coming into it as a women is what is going to make this even more difficult because if she fails or doesn't do well there may come a point where she is going to be facing the world. I mean I remember from "Remember the Titans" there was a lot of pressure on coach Boon, because he was a black man, to lead his team to victory and at the first sign of trouble or a losing year he would have lost his job his house and everything. Times have changed a lot since then, but not only is she black, she is also a women, putting even more pressure on her to do her job well. Like I said before I hope that she will be able to do her best and not be treated any differently because she is a black women in a workforce of mostly white men. But she is taking a major step that no one else has and I applaud her for getting to that level. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:38:59 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment62796547 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59284690 Maybe I didn't understand the question asked, but in my opinion theme parties are just a fun way to make parties a little more interesting. I honestly don't see the racial discrimination in any of the parties that I have gone to or making fun of any particular race group. I know for a fact that some of my black friends have had theme parties as well. What do you mean by racist themes? Like is a Hawaiian Luau party discriminatory against the Pacific Islanders? Or a Saint Patrick's Day Party is that supposedly making fun of the Irish? Really, I have never even HEARD of a party that was themed around black people or anything of that sort. I mean the only thing that I can really think of is maybe at Halloween when a white person dresses up like Mr. T or something and paint their skin black in order to resemble that person. But other than that I have never seen a theme party geared towards black people. An honestly if there ever was a party that was themed about another race in a purposely discriminatory manner or meant to make fun of a certain culture, I know that I, myself and many other people would not even think about attending. I'm sure you have a point, but I really don't understand what your talking about... Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:36:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59284690 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/a-long-long-way-indeed__trashed/#IDComment59283543 This is an interesting point. I do believe that it would be interesting to witness people from the past who saw people owning slaves and/or owned slaves themselves and see the reactions that they might have about our culture today and how it is so accepting of other races, cultures and people, totally different than it was back then. I don't really know if they would be surprised or not to be honest. I mean the way that we do accept other people into American culture, like people on MTV and other shows that include people of all sorts of races. I think the most impressed people would be those who had lived in slavery their entire lives. I really believe that they would not believe their eyes because they were taught that they were lesser than the slave-owners and thats why they were slaves. I also believe that because pop culture has definitely embraced what we call integration and the mixture of all sorts of colors doing all sorts of things they would be blown away at how far we have come. The truth is many people still do see race differences as key characteristics of people and there is still slavery and racism and everything of that sort that still exists today but not in the same caliber as it was back in the day. People in the past would be happy for what the future holds and the fact that there are so many people who don't see them as a race but rather as a person. Even the slave owners would be impressed, as I understand it, many did not like that fact that there was such a segregation of the people because of their race. We really have come so far since the early slave owning time. Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:26:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/a-long-long-way-indeed__trashed/#IDComment59283543 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/why-is-this-racist-really__trashed/#IDComment59281273 wow. I'm actually impressed that this guy thinks that he's going to get anywhere with this. He seems to be genuinely sincere that there are actually people out there who want to watch a bunch of white guys, who quite frankly aren't meant to play basketball run up and down a court. If he thinks that this is what is going to get more fans and follow his so called "niche" he's quite wrong. I don't know but I have seem quite a few basketball games in my day and I mean other than the crazy shots and close victories, I don't really enjoy them all that much. But the truth is I believe that a group of mixed race players is going to be much more interesting than a group of white only or black only for that matter. Yes, I understand that black men generally are better at basketball, at least thats what the statistics show and I also understand that generally white people are somewhat mediocre at it but making an all white team would just bore people to be honest. Yes maybe there are people who like watching white people play, but is there really enough of those people to make an entire league of it? Probably not. Another point that i'd like to make is if these so called white players aren't getting jobs because they can't compete with the black players... shouldn't that tell them something? They probably aren't good enough to play if they can't compete. Its not like they don't have any thing else that they could try to do with their lives to make a better salary and support their families. I'm a little surprised that Moose thinks that this is a good idea. He really is going backwards like the other man in the movie. I mean I guess he has a point that there are some people who would prefer to do watch something like this and its possible that he really doesn't want it to seem racist he just wants white people to have a fair shot at becoming successful Basket ball players, but if they can't compete with every race out there and the best of the best they really shouldn't be basketball players. He seems to think that these people would want to watch this, personally I wouldn't want to watch it, and neither would most people. But then again, I don't see many white people playing very well, or at least well enough to get a lot of credit for it. Honestly though I would like to see the outcome of a league like this, watching it get like 0 viewers would prove to this guy that he's crazy. I respect that he's filling his "calling" or whatever, but an all white league is a little too far. Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:14:52 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/why-is-this-racist-really__trashed/#IDComment59281273 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-two__trashed/#IDComment58911200 I sorta understand where you are coming from. But I can't really say that you are entirely free of the guilt that people in this country have to face for all of those native americans had lost their home. If you come to this country and have a fair share at what was native american land wrongfully taken without so much as a reparation for what was done to them then you are still using what was acquired for you thorough blood sweat and tears. These people were here first and had it taken away from them and anytime you buy a house or go to school you are learning and living on land that was taken from the native people. They were murdered for the dirt beneath your feet and exploited because they didn't want to leave. Its hard to say that anyone who lives in America is totally separated from the fact that these people were here first and they lost it because our ancestors were greedy. People who come to this country like you do not have as much guilt bestowed upon them but really if you came here we know that things like the genocide have happened here and it is true it happens, No one is free of it. Sat, 27 Feb 2010 03:19:51 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-two__trashed/#IDComment58911200