en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1187830 Comments by _M_c_D_ http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/marie-stopes-abortion-clinic-to-open-in-northern-ireland-in-face-of-furious-opposition-16222766.html#IDComment460594784 I imagine they'll have to convert the bus lanes into birthing lanes.... Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:08:22 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/marie-stopes-abortion-clinic-to-open-in-northern-ireland-in-face-of-furious-opposition-16222766.html#IDComment460594784 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/marie-stopes-abortion-clinic-to-open-in-northern-ireland-in-face-of-furious-opposition-16222766.html#IDComment460577397 What type of plastic are aborted babies stored in? Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:35:07 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/marie-stopes-abortion-clinic-to-open-in-northern-ireland-in-face-of-furious-opposition-16222766.html#IDComment460577397 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/marie-stopes-abortion-clinic-to-open-in-northern-ireland-in-face-of-furious-opposition-16222766.html#IDComment460577033 I think it's an outrage that the religious zealotry of the city planners have created traffic jams in the city center so that no one can get in to town to have an abortion. Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:34:27 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/marie-stopes-abortion-clinic-to-open-in-northern-ireland-in-face-of-furious-opposition-16222766.html#IDComment460577033 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459750802 You're not getting it. See where I said calling athiests or christians Nazis does nothing to advance either argument? But there are sources on this if you search for them. You can do your own leg work. Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:21:24 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459750802 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459739111 "Of course it is rational to change opinion when facts demand. The thing is you may have a completely different argument in 10 years time." And? Again, explain to me how that's a negative. Are seriously using the bible as proof of your religion? Now that you can use Google, search for "circular reasoning". I also never said that the Nazis murdered BECAUSE they were christian. I'm saying that they were christians. Stalin and Pol Pot were athiests. Did they murder millions of people because of it? No. I'm saying that it does nothing to advance your argument. Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:01:47 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459739111 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459718762 Umm, I did. The text I copied was from Orwell. I thought that was obvious. A scientific theory is a framework which describes observations and makes predictions accordingly. This is what the theory of evolution is. It's not a guess or an idea. I fail to see how changing a theory to fit new findings is a negative either. Surely a rational person changes their opinion when facts change. Are you saying you are an athiest as well then? Do you believe in Thor? Ra? Vishnu? So many points to make on your third statement. Lets break it down, shall we? "Thirdly Fascism is generally thought of in its Nazi context" The Fascists were actually a different party from the Nazis. Their philosophy was built around national identity. I don't believe the manifesto said anything about the theory of evolution. "The denial of free speech. The imposition of thought processes." Again, no. You're using fascism in the epithetical sense. And it was Orwell's point that this is over-used to the point of having no meaning. "The banning of that contrary to the thinking of the ruling clique and an atheistic disrespect for human life or the values of others." Funny that you're comparing athiests to Nazis, when the Nazis were, to a man, radicalized Christians led by a man who thought he was doing god's work. Seriously, you have access to Google as well as I do. use it and stop making a fool of yourself. Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:25:48 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459718762 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/men-wiseup-on-responsibility-16222164.html#IDComment459687612 Yeah, I really feel bad about myself that Jimmy Saville abused a load of kids. I should go take a long hard look in the mirror. Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:27:53 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/men-wiseup-on-responsibility-16222164.html#IDComment459687612 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459686738 Gravity is also still a theory. As is germ theory. As is nuclear theory. Do you even know what a theory is? Atheism is also the absence of faith. It's like saying that being bald is a hair-style. I do also find it ironic you use an Owellian idiom along with the word "fascist", considering what he had to say about the use of the word: "...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else ... Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathisers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come" Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:26:14 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/causeway-claim-has-no-evidence-16221085.html#IDComment459686738 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/standing-up-for-unborn-babies-16221618.html#IDComment458969944 I think jihadists say the same thing.... Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:15:05 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/standing-up-for-unborn-babies-16221618.html#IDComment458969944 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455967714 Yeah, can't wait to see creationist exhibits in the Ulster Museum.... Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:30:24 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455967714 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455962972 Hmmm, clearly the NT are going to have to come up with some sort of standardisation formula to avoid such arguments in future. Some thing like : number of people believing in wacky idea / total population == number of sentences attributed / total sentences. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:21:11 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455962972 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455952591 I certainly have. I value your opinion on the subject very highly. At what point does the proportion of people believing a certain thing become "mentionable" in a National Trust exhibit? 0.1%? 1%? 10%? Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:59:56 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455952591 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455947452 Well, clearly you do or you wouldn't have spent the last hour responding to my comments on the subject. And I don't see the point of mentioning it and giving it any validity at all. As I stated in my initial comment. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:49:39 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455947452 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455939950 I couldn't care less what you think I'm like, anonymous internet commenter. I don't think a manifestly wrong opinion is somehow equal to a correct one, and just to metaphorically pat someone on the head and think "awww, isn't that sweet", is pretty condescending. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:34:09 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455939950 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455934799 Is Young Earth Creationism such an important part of Northern Irish culture that it needs to be shoe horned in here? Also, I disagree with you on treating stupid ideas with respect. They should be treated with contempt. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:23:03 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455934799 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455929266 What I actually object to, is the shoe-horning in of this utterly stupid idea to appease some Free Presbyterians with an agenda. If that means getting rid of old Finn too, so be it. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:11:40 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455929266 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455923489 I've no problem with taking the Finn McCool crap out as well. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:59:31 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455923489 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455918137 Their views have absolutely nothing to do with the facts. Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:48:30 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455918137 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455911782 why? Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:35:48 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455911782 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455886157 Why even comment on what they believe? Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:41:58 +0000 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/creationism-takes-a-back-seat-in-story-of-giantrsquos-causeway-visitor-centre-16219776.html#IDComment455886157