en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/286583 Comments by Webster http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12945169 This will be tossed out by the "moderator" of course--but everyone realizes that this is just a place to blow off steam--a ruse of "change.gov"--to make us feel like our ideas are being considered. No one with Obama's team is reading these. If they were, the invitation to Warren would have been rescinded by now. We're being played--much as we were during the campaign. They've taken our money, and the time we spent campaigning for them; Obama was elected and we're now of no further use to them. Nothing quite like feeling like an old used kleenex. Thanks for giving us hope Obama--and then taking it away. Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:40:56 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12945169 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12849715 I'm sorry, but that's tantamount to saying, "Miz Parks, you just keep sitting there in the back of the bus. We've got some other more important issues than your civil rights--so you just be patient now--we'll get to your rights, gee, when we have time. Civil rights are of primary importance to those who don't have them. Just because you have yours, you don't understand how important they genuinely are. Think about it. Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:42:11 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12849715 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12835847 It's like trying to explain something to a houseplant. But thanks for trying, Granny--you've got a good heart. Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:08:13 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12835847 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12835629 It's astounding to me--and very sad--to see how many people who are posting here seem to agree that GLBT people are second-class citizens and not worth protection from the heterosexism and tyranny of the majority. I guess gay people are *still* a class of people it's all right to disparage. This is why the choice of Warren is so controversial. I really expected more of Obama than this. Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:59:22 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12835629 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12833005 I've noticed that the religious right will use *any* excuse and go to *any* lengths to justify their prejudice and bigotry. And these are people who are supposed to believe in "Love thy neighbor." I don't think Jesus clarified that by saying, "but only your straight neighbor." Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:29:38 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12833005 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832948 The word "sin" comes from a Greek word--in archery--which means simply "missing the mark." The Bible also says that one shouldn't eat shrimp or wear clothing of two different materials--in the same Leviticus that people use to attack gays. Remember that the next time you wear your cotton/poly blend to Red Lobster. Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:23:30 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832948 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832626 I'm afraid that's all too true. Obama has declared GLBT people second-class citizens and this is just another place to go where no one will see or hear our call for justice and equality. Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:54:24 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832626 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832453 Would "heterosexism" fit you better then? Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:41:18 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832453 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832316 I’m over sixty years old and gay and I've been with my partner for 26 years. We actually believed that equality was going to finally appear on a President’s desk. We donated what money we could to Obama under very trying financial circumstances. We’ve had to endure discrimination all our lives – we’ve been spit at, had beer cans thrown at us, we’ve been chased by a group carrying a baseball bat (and the police shrugged it off and did nothing). I’ve never been able to put my partner on my health plan or me on his. We pay our taxes. And we felt that finally, finally, our second-class citizenship was going to be addressed and put great hope in Obama. The more things change – the more they remain the same. With Obama’s choice of Warren to “bless his Presidency,” I realize now that I won’t see equality in my lifetime. I hope that someday, for the sake of the next generation of gay people, they will see their lives – and their love – affirmed in full equality. We have no choice at this point but to divorce ourselves from the political process. We’re just not going to set ourselves up for further disappointments. We’ve just had too many. Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:30:31 +0000 http://change.gov/page/content/GeneralDiscussion/#IDComment12832316