en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/769710 Comments by TorreyLFranklin https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/stories-for-uplift__trashed/#IDComment71522277 These two stories are both very touching; they really speak to the character of the human population. In this class we often look at the problems that we are dealing with in our world. The videos are a reminder that although we have a lot of problems that we have to deal with in the world there are still just as many people who are compassionate, loving, and caring. Sam does a great job in class of making us think about what is and what could be. As I think about some of the topics he brings up I can’t help but to think about the what if’s. What if the world were as good and as loving and as tight as we all dream it could be. It is a what if so the chances of a utopian society are slim but still there is hope for a better world. These videos are examples of what should be happening all through the world. In the kidney video there is a white man who gives his kidney to an Asian store clerk. This shows a tremendous amount of compassion and respect. It is not everyday that someone is willing to give a kidney and on top of that it was basically for a complete stranger. These acts of colorblind kindness are what should be the goals of every living being on the earth. If everyone was treated with this same respect and compassion then the world would be perfect. Things will never be perfect though so really the best thing we can do at this point is change one thing out of our day to help someone else. I believe that we should all start to talk about and think about karma. It is real, no doubt about it. We all should be thinking about karma on a daily basis. Good Karma comes from doing good things like giving a kidney and even small things like helping someone carry their books. Building up good karma and doing good things are what get us ahead in life. By doing this we learn a lot about ourselves as well as learning about the person you just helped. The golden rule is basically karma without the karma aspect. Do things to others as you would want done to you. This is karma basically, just do stuff that isn’t mean and hurtful. As basic as it seems it is rare that any of us actually think about and follow this rule on a day to day basis. The greatest quote I ever read was, “Good things happen to good people” this quote couldn’t be truer. The better you treat your neighbors, friends, and acquaintances the better your life will be in the end. Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:52:19 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/stories-for-uplift__trashed/#IDComment71522277 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-people-who-can-only-afford-hard-work__trashed/#IDComment70052417 I feel like money is key to life. Hard work really doesn't do the job these days. If you have money you can get anywhere in life but if you work hard you can only do so much depending on your socioeconomic status. It is said to say that hard work will do the job but in reality money rules over everything. If you have money then you can get good grades because you have money and connections. If you work hard then you can become really good and really skilled but you can never stack up to the money makers because you don't have money. Money gives you rights and abilities that you normally would never have. Hard work is great and I am trying to make it on hard work myself but money really does help and it does make a difference. It sucks but it is the truth money and elitism are what rules America. Sat, 24 Apr 2010 01:40:47 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-people-who-can-only-afford-hard-work__trashed/#IDComment70052417 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment70013707 This is very interesting it is crazy how we humans really don't care about disasters unless we are directly affected by them. The normal response is to just be like, "oh that sucks, I hope things get better" I even do this a lot. Its not even that I don't give a fuck its just that I also have a life and I also have my own well being to worry about on a daily basis. I know that may sound really selfish but its the truth, if I ever want to be in a position to help other people later in my life then I need to do work and get mine. I mean I am all for helping people and giving to other but I feel like I need to get my shit straight first. I want to be in a good position to help people first instead of being some broke ass, bum ass, college student who really can't really help drastically. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:42:59 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment70013707 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/letter-from-an-inmate__trashed/#IDComment70011239 This letter was deep to say the least. What this man said I think is one of the truest forms of human interaction. During the course of anyone’s life we all face an umpteen number of challenges, hardships, and obstacles that we must tackle and overcome. Life is hard for everyone and that is what forms our personalities and our character. This mans letter was eye opening to me mostly because it was a man who was in jail for life yet had the compassion for another to help them out. This is the ultimate situation, these men are in jail for life, there is no reason that they should feel the need to help anyone out. They seemingly have nothing to live for yet when simple problems in their life come up like one of their inmate’s son dying then they show the compassion to help his fellow man out. Life has a strange way of working for us. We make many mistakes, it is inevitable this man just made a rather large mistake, much bigger than most of us make during our lifetimes. He killed a man/woman and now he must deal with the consequences of his actions. It shows a lot of character when a man who has committed a crime like that and has realized his mistakes and has worked hard to become a much better man than before. The “lifer” was right when he said that we view inmates like him as monsters and not real people. I, myself do this many times, you think about jail and it makes you cringe because you know if you ever had to go there then you would be in a house full of monsters and criminals who had no care or concern in the world for people like me. Even in the television and media they have shows about jails and criminals and they make the men in the show out to be beasts. This inmate’s letter proved to me that jail is a horrible place but there are many people who are fundamentally good and have good morals they just fucked up once or had a period in their lives where they weren’t themselves. This brings up a thought to my mind though, what would make a man like this decide to commit a crime like murder? He is obviously is not a terrible person, granted he has had many years to think about his actions and himself and why he did what he did. But I am interested to find out what happened to him that made him want to kill someone else. I mean it has to be a two way street someone must’ve treated him pretty badly to push him to the point where he felt the only solution was to kill them. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:25:29 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/letter-from-an-inmate__trashed/#IDComment70011239 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68422296 In all honesty I think if a group of lets say Chinese invaders came and took over the United States and during their invasion they killed one or some of my family members and friends then I would definitely blow some stuff up. I can't even really imagine how shitty it would be to have my country be destroyed by invasion. I don't think people are really understanding what being invading is really like. I am sure that half the town of state college would be destroyed at least. Half of my friends and family would be dead all because some Chinese people decided to invade us. I would be so mad and so angry that obviously I would be killing, I wouldn't be suicide bombing because then I wouldn't be able to mess up more Chinese then. There is no doubt though that I would be bombing and doing the whole insurgency thing because like there is nothing left to live for, my family, friends, home, and country are all gone or at least gone as we know it. And there is no way I am going to let some Chinese invaders tell me what to do so yes I would fuck a whole lot of stuff up because that's really the only logical thing to do in that situation. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:19:54 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68422296 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68420832 LyndsieS if you really think that your comment was at all about what Sam talked about then I really do feel sorry for you. Sam talked about extremes yesterday, he did not by any means say that all American Christians wanted to take over the world. It is ludacris that you even got that out of what he was saying. Sam talked about the war and how it is not at all about what we think it is about. He did not attack Christians the least bit. What he was saying was that this war was never about an "axis of evil" there were no "bad guys" and we were not trying to keep any peace. Those are all things the media and government fed us to subdue us and trick us into thinking something that wasn't. The war was and is really about our need for oil and what will we do to get it. He was also saying that we talk about how these Islamic people are all radical and out to kill Americans and hate us and this and that. Then he tried to get us to look at it from a DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW and see what the Muslims are seeing which are Christians, invading Christians. Christians who are trying to take over and for all they know it could be just because they aren't Christian. Next time you decide you want to get offended read a book or go to class or both so you at least know what you are saying, you need all the help you can get. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:08:04 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68420832 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68419000 Yesterdays class was by far the most intriguing, thought provoking class I think we have had all year. Sam enticed us to think about the War in Iraq, terrorists, and how we Americans are brainwashed into believing what the Government wants us to. After the lecture I had mixed feelings i didn't know how to feel. On the one hand I was feeling like I knew why the "insurgents" were doing what they were doing. On the other hand I felt extremely angry to our government and our media for making us, the people of the US, believe in a war that is completely false. Our media constantly feeds us this information about the war and we a made to believe that we are always right and that our country only wants to be fair and peaceful. This I think after the lecture is not at all what we have become as a nation. American's have become the fatass bullys who beat up any kid on the block who doesn't like them or agree with them. I can't even put in to words how upset I am. It seems like we have grown up in a hypocritical nation, we say one thing and do another. We say we are only trying to protect and help the smaller less developed countries who need it. When it comes down to it though, we are really just out to get ours, whatever we want or need we will stop at nothing to get it and then make our people believe that it is for a just cause. On top of this Sam showed a couple of videos with George Bush, John McCain, Sarah Palin, and General Petraeus. These were what in my mind were the most important parts of the class. They all spoke of "Crusades" or something along the same lines which made the war seem even more convoluted. It made me wonder if it was about safety or if it was about proving one's God is greater than Iraq's. Even General Petraeus said in his video that he thought that our God was real and that the Muslims was not, that Allah was just an idol. We always hear in the media that the extremists Muslims are warmongers. We are told they are rogue and have one goal in life, kill "good" American Christians. Which is funny because what the media fails to mention every time is that our nations leaders are also fighting and killing people because they believe it's God's Will. This is a lot like the same reason that the Islamic people are fighting us. It makes me wonder who is really is the "axis of evil." We are doing exactly what they are yet we think we are right in doing what we are doing because we are civilized, smart, Christian Americans. Sam asked us all at the end of the class if we would be insurgents if we were put in the same situation as the Iraqis. I answered that I most certainly would. If some fucks led by a bigger fuck in George Bush came into my country and tried to take my oil and kill my people and use my resources and ruin my land and my house and my community then I would be killing soldiers like Rambo. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:53:39 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68419000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/i-really-want-to-know-also__trashed/#IDComment66839556 Opinions can only change when people are open to challenging their opinion. I love to hear arguments against things that I believe because it really makes me question my beliefs. If I agree with the argument my opinion on that topic begins to sway away from my original thought. Often other times peoples’ arguments will just enhance and strengthen my current beliefs or opinions. Hearing other peoples’ opinions helps you gain new angles and views on the same topic. The second question was has anything made a difference to me and the answer is undoubtedly yes. Unless you are extremely afraid to open your mind and challenge your beliefs I don’t see how this class couldn’t have made a difference to you. The topics that we talk about are things that I now see every day. Just in the last class alone, the one about modern slavery, has made an impact in my day to day life. Whenever I see someone eating a Snickers bar I wonder if they really know how much blood, sweat, and tears really went into that 99-cent nougat and nut filled chocolate bar. My collection of white t-shirts that I bought at Wal Mart for pennies on the dollar was probably created by a myriad of slaves. Last night at dinner shrimp was being served and I recalled shrimp being on the list of “jobs” that modern day slaves are forced to do. I looked around at all the people eating shrimp and wondered how many of them really thought about who actually sacrificed to supply them with that meal. SOC 119 isn’t really as much of a class to me as it is a chunk of time where I can sit down and wrestle with my thoughts. It is a chance for my eyes to really open to the horror and to the beauty of our modern world. The class has made a world of difference to me. You finished your dialogue with “I wanna know if people actually change their opinion off what Sam says “ and my answer to that is no. Sam cannot change anything I believe or think. However he is a guide to helping me look at things I previously thought I knew and challenging my thoughts. He says time and time again that he doesn’t care what you think, he just cares that you think. He just wants to get the mental wheels turning in everyone. It could very easily be just me who has benefited from the class and everyone else just wants to get through the lectures to receive their A and go about other ambitions. I however will be the first to say that some of my opinions have changed, others have not, but all in all this class has “honestly” made a difference. Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:40:23 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/i-really-want-to-know-also__trashed/#IDComment66839556 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-might-be-the-second-step__trashed/#IDComment66834705 To me step two is making an individual effort. If we go out with the mindset that we can change the world we will fall flat on our face. But if we go out with the mindset that we can change our part in the play of life we can make a change and an example for others to follow. If one person in a room claps the noise is relatively quiet but the people around them hear it. Then if everyone who heard that clap claps the noise will become much louder. This continues on until everyone claps in unison. The second step is to be the first to clap. Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:11:55 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-might-be-the-second-step__trashed/#IDComment66834705 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-about-multiracial-people__trashed/#IDComment65570409 I completely agree with this. I don't think you should try to be anything or identify with any race or person you do not want to. If you feel like a white person then when people ask you can just identify with that team or if you feel Hispanic or Latino then say you identify more and consider yourself more a part of that group than any other. Its more about how you feel on the inside than what you think society wants you to be on the outside. People are always going to judge and make false conjectures about you no matter how you act or what you do. Stop worry about what people think of you and just do what you feel is right on the inside. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:09:53 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-about-multiracial-people__trashed/#IDComment65570409 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/revisioning-the-revisioning-stage__trashed/#IDComment65569675 I agree with you on this, when I was growing up my high school was 75% African American and I was the only white kid on all the basketball teams combined. Even though I didn't know it at the time, that experiences prepared me and opened my eyes much more to the lives and the struggles of races and cultures that were different than mine. Many of my white friends also figured out very quickly what many of the African-Americans had to go through on a daily basis and the discrimination and prejudices many people had about them. When I moved to Pennsylvania in 11th grade I realized that there were so many people out there who were blind and ignorant to the race relation problems of our society. I have tried to share my experiences and open peoples eyes to the problem but I feel like you have to experience it to know the problems our society has. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:03:54 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/revisioning-the-revisioning-stage__trashed/#IDComment65569675 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-are-all-of-you-thinking-about-asians__trashed/#IDComment65568167 I think he brings up a very good point. It seems like the conversation is always about black people and white people. I am not Asian but in class I do notice that the Asians are somewhat overlooked when it comes to race relations. This is quite peculiar because part of the problem we have had throughout history is our failure to properly acknowledge different races and different colors. We have begun to really make changes in regards to that way white people and black people interact but it still seems like many other races and ethnicitys are being ignored. The group that seems to be ignored most is the Asians and Asian-Americans. It is a wonder to me why this is but in class when Sam talks about race relations its always about black people and white people then we just put the label "brown" people on everyone else who we either don't want to talk about or simply do not care enough to talk about. This I think can and will become a major problem because I do not think it was just the black people in the United States who have been mistreated. I think the Hispanics and Asians have been mistreated and taken advantage of for years. This might be an over simplification of the truth but I feel like just because the Asian people are as vocal and up front about their problems and what they are unhappy with that we white people just decide that they are not important enough to talk about or address in the race conversation. Asians are just as important to the well-being of America as whites, blacks, and brown people. It is time they were shown some respect and given some time and attention with regards to the race relations conversation. I am by no means trying to say that white-black relations aren't important I am just saying that Asians have done more than they need to to deserve time in the conversation. Yes, obviously there has been more documented history, hatred, and mistreatment in the United States between blacks and whites but that does not mean that they are the only two races that deserve attention in America. For decades the white man has stomped all over Asian-Americans and we have taken advantage of there virtues for far to long and have never really given Asians proper credit and respect for the things they have done for the United States and for humanity as a whole. Maybe its because there has been no civil rights movement for Asians and maybe its because we don't think they deserve the time or attention. Frankly, I think its time Asians started to speak up and express their views, whether they be good or bad. I just feel like of all that we have learned this semester little to none of it has been directed to Asians and treatment towards that minority in America. Asians are to valuable to the well-being of our society to just be overlooked and under appreciated. It is time to show our brothers and sisters from the other side of the pacific a little more respect. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:51:24 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-are-all-of-you-thinking-about-asians__trashed/#IDComment65568167 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64284369 The funny thing about this is that as a child I always wished and hoped I would make it to the NBA. That's all I dreamed about and thought about but I never thought I could make it because I wasn't black. Our perceptions of power, money, and beauty I think are almost reversed when we think about athletics. We immediately think that the black guy is always better and more athletic than the white guy. This is not always true but we are taught and made to think it is. At times as a child actually many many times as a child I wished I was black solely because I knew people would have much more respect for me basketball wise if I was. Even my white basketball friends and I would talk about how we wished we could turn black when we played basketball so that we could get some respect. So in a sense I feel like I can relate to those kids in the video. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:18:01 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64284369 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64283738 This video was moving to say the least. I could not believe my eyes, this video really made me think about why these kids were picking the white dolls every time and what caused these kids to think the way they did. What has society done to make these kids think that white people are better or better looking than people of color. I think part of the problem is that we have this idea that the only people with power in the world are white people. Sadly, for the most part I think this is true but not because they are smarter they just have gotten to the top of the mountain because of forces outside of our control. So when we think about success we think about rich white men. This is reflected throughout our society, our televisions are constantly showing advertisements of beauty products and coincidentally all the "beautiful" people are white. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:11:11 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64283738 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment64282566 Sam brought up many very thought enticing questions, made bold statements, and in turn made many of people very upset. I thought what he was doing was rather genius. It is easy to talk about change and how to start doing it but it is a completely different move to actually make a controversial statement and force people to change or at least force them to think about change, hopefully. When Sam brought up the subject of periods I heard many people grumbling and even a lot of people leaving. These were the same people who previously this semester said that there was nothing that would stop them from saying something if a store owner was discriminating and refusing to serve someone of another ethnicity. He brought up a topic that people don't like to talk about, even me, and tried to ask questions and make us think about why we don't like to talk about periods. Instead of listening to what he had to say and hearing him out many people just left or immediately disengaged themselves from the conversation. I was even uncomfortable paying attention because everyone was acting disgusted instead of digesting Sam's comments. This is what really made me upset. Our resistance to change or to even thinking about change because everyone else was resisting. It's like if I were to walk into a store and see the owner discriminating on a customer of a different race and everyone else in the store was just watching so I decide to just watch, why? Because thats what everyone else was doing. This disease is the reason we owned slaves for so long; this is why women had no rights for so long; this is why marijuana is illegal. We tell people that things are the way they are and not to question them. So no one ever questions these things and when someone does we shun them and put them down for it. I believe that the only way we can progress as a human race is to constantly questions ourselves, our habits, and our government. Some of the questions I always ask are why are men always expected to ask women out? Why is marijuana still seen as a harmful drug? Its not just our fault either I think in many ways its the governments fault for many of these issues. We have biased politicians who use propaganda to persaude people to believe what we want them to. Like back in the 19th and 20th centuries our government convinced our nation that black people are inferior and uncivil. For decades no one questioned this and all those who did were made to think otherwise. It seems as though what America needs more than anything at this point is a movement to become you and think what you want to think. We too often follow and believe what we are told; instead we should start to believe nothing and question everything. If people just did what they wanted to do and not what they thought someone else wanted them to do then I think real progress would be made. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:58:03 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment64282566 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63082727 This was appalling to me especially because not too long ago same showed us a video about a poor white family and gave statistics about poor whites and poor blacks and there were more poor whites than there were blacks. While whites are a majority they still have an overwhelming about of poor people in the United States. How can people of color still have these static views about white people? We are not all the same and frankly it is extremely offensive to be treated like we are, granted I know that those texts were not the views of everyone in the class they were still harsh. I would love to talk to some of the people of color who were texting the tough comments on the computer. I would love to should someone of color that white people are different and do have different interests and tastes. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:39:59 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63082727 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-to-do-about-white-guilt__trashed/#IDComment63081546 I would have to agree with you on this. I don't really feel guilty or know what to feel but at the same time I feel like subconsciously there is something that make white people feel as though they need to filter what they say and be careful around certain kinds of people. This I believe is part of the problem. We are all human, we as a human race too often place each other on pedestals and make each other to be more than human. In the end what we all need to realize is that we all are human and do things all humans do. We all all eat, sleep, exersice, are happy, sad, excited, nervous, we all fell pressure in many situations. Our behavior and patterns are essentially the same. In my opinion the most respect you can have for a person is when you don't do anything particularly special just to be you and care about one another then we will begin to extinguish some of this racism. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:28:56 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-to-do-about-white-guilt__trashed/#IDComment63081546 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63079454 I think he brings up a very valid point. I felt somewhat offended by the things that were bring said about white people, being white obviously I am more inclined to be offended. Though during the class I felt as though there was a double standard for the people of color and the white people. I felt like it wasn't so much the black girls reaction but it was also everyone else that reacted to their reaction that caused the uproar. All the white people were like, "oh no" look what someone said. I think the hysteria which led to Sam saying something about the commotion was caused by the entire rooms' hypersensitivity to racism. I feel like us white people are too quick to start blaming each other and being like that's so immature. I, thought is was rather immature, but it was also probably some white kids honest opinion and isn't that what Sam was asking for? Again, this is just my opinion but people of color seem like they were not so much upset by the comment but just suprised by what was said, then all the white people got really up tight because they unconsiously felt like it wasn't politically correct and every white person even Sam were up in arms about anything that was said about people of color that put them in a negative light. It seems as though our human nature is inherently to create a double standard and feel guilty about what we have done and how white people have miss treated people of color for hundreds of years. Part of our problem is not so much that we are racist it's more we are so worried about being perceived as racist that we are cautious and over sensitive to people of color. Even now it feels like white people are always trying to be the big brother to people of color. I feel like instead of trying to help people of color all the time, instead we should try to be a friend and a peer to people of color. I hope I am making sense and not confusing anyone here but what I trying to say is people of color are a people that are as strong, as efficient and as smart if not smarter than all us white people. The rule or credo that I try and stick by is just that we always need to just take a step back and put ourselves in someone elses' shoes and see where they are coming from and trying to change it. If we all just got our honest opinions out there then just talked about them instead of just shunning them then I really think we could get somewhere. I know as a white guy that there are a lot of stupid and goofy things white dudes do. Its a fact. There's no way around it but instead of getting tight about it we should just take a step back and put ourselves in the hoes of another and think about why they said what they said and where they were coming from. This may seem like it is too simple but honestly how often does anyone actually do this. I know even I will start talking back before I even think about what I am saying. If we just went through and talked about all of our preconceptions and prejudices about one another then talked about why or why it wasn't true then I think we could really get somewhere. This would take a lot, people would have to begin to put their pride aside and evaluate themselves and their actions. If we got to the point where we began to be more free and easy about each others races then I think we would see all the qualities that each and everyone of us individuals possesses. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:09:15 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63079454 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58879294 I agree, what was being said to the Muslim woman was wrong and down right disgusting. I was angry watching it and I wanted to say something but then I started to think that everyone else in the class wanted and would've said something. This made me start to think, would a different approach to the situation be more affective? Would a non-verbal more action oriented act be more influential? If I were in the store and saw this then saw someone say something I would instead of adding on to what the person said I would've instead bought the woman's meal without saying anything to the cashier, given the meal to the woman in front of the cashier then walk out of the store without speaking to him or buying anything from his store. I feel like this approach would've spoken much louder than just yelling at the cashier about his beliefs and how they are wrong. The old adage actions speak louder than words could be applied to perfection in a situation like this. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:05:12 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58879294 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58877838 Just because someone is quiet doesn't mean they don't care. That is a little ridiculous, there are different ways to object to what someone says, you can not give the owner business anymore or you can buy what the Muslim lady wished to buy then give it to her. Have we forgotten our history, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and Nelson Mandela all took approaches similar to saying nothing. They were being treated unjustly and unfairly and their people were being beaten and killed everyday. They took a non-violent and a non-confrontational approach in their revolt and succeeded. Just because they didn't fight violence with violence doesn't mean they didn't care. They just thought of different solutions to the problem. I think a similar approach could be taken in the situation we watched in class. Why give the man who is discriminating the time of day. He is wrong; the person who says something knows that just as much as the person who says nothing just because you don't say anything doesn't mean you don't care. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:56:26 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58877838