https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InyWhQLfO7A

It's been so long...

Happy New Year Roger...
The last time I was here the group was trying to chase you off... I take it they lost that fight ? Funny how things can change in such a short time... It doesn't look like the site has had much activity. Perhaps as the year gets closer to the election... or has the web changed that much since it's takeover ? All I can say is that I'm losing my affection to technology... I even considered giving up my cell phone... it's more of a tracking device anyways. I hope this web site isn't an example of what the United States has to look forward to...

Hello all...

Hey Swim...

It would be safe to say if our government is filled with globalist... so is everyone else's

It's kinda hard to follow...

But Hey.... It's SNL
http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/snl-stars-newest-musli...

Justfolk...

I see you missed the heading of that post....

Where I said """""Taken From A Yahoo Post"""""

It has no response to anything or anyone said from the Growl

It is however... a post I made in one of the Yahoo threads to a person named "J" who asked me...
..."Why is it that people suddenly feel qualified to question Doctors when the doctor is the subject matter expert ? ~ J "

It was to show everyone on the Growl... these Vaccine pushers mentality

I don't know if my post are going through...

I thought two of them post on the vaccine topic... but I don't see them

Taken from a Yahoo thread...

Why is it that people suddenly feel qualified to question Doctors when the doctor is the subject matter expert ? ~ J

Back in 1984, the extrapolated statistics from relatively few records in only several states of the United States estimated that between 44,000-98,000 people annually die in hospitals because of medical errors.[2] Much work has been done since then, including work by the author of that study who moved on from those low estimates back in the 1990s. For example, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention currently says that 75,000 patients die annually, in hospitals alone, from infections alone - just one cause of harm in just one kind of care setting.[3] From all causes there have been numerous other studies, including "A New, Evidence-based Estimate of Patient Harms Associated with Hospital Care" by John T. James, PhD[4] that estimates 400,000 unnecessary deaths annually in hospitals alone. Less than one quarter of care takes place in hospitals. Across all care settings the numbers are higher.

Another study notes that about 1.14 million patient-safety incidents occurred among the 37 million hospitalizations in the Medicare population over the years 2000-2002. Hospital costs associated with such medical errors were estimated at $324 million in October 2008 alone.

Between 15,000 and 19,000 malpractice suits are brought against doctors each year. These are all considered estimates as inside the world of health care, whistle blowers have revealed that many treatment failures are documented to be considered something other than the real event. It is widely accepted that the statistical outcomes of failures are poorly documented and knowingly falsified.

A 2011 study in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 75% of physicians in "low-risk" specialties and virtually 100% of physicians in "high-risk" specialties could expect to face a malpractice claim during their careers. However, the authors also noted that the vast majority of malpractice claims did not lead to any indemnity payments.

Most (73%) settled malpractice claims involve medical error. A 2006 study concluded that claims without evidence of error "are not uncommon, but most [72%] are denied compensation. The vast majority of expenditures [54%] go toward litigation over errors and payment of them. The overhead costs of malpractice litigation are exorbitant." Physicians examined the records of 1452 closed malpractice claims. Ninety-seven percent were associated with injury; of them, 73% got compensation. Three percent of the claims were not associated with injuries; of them, 16% got compensation. 63% were associated with errors; of them, 73% got compensation (average $521,560). Thirty-seven percent were not associated with errors; of them, 28% got compensation (average $313,205). Claims not associated with errors accounted for 13 to 16% percent of the total costs. For every dollar spent on compensation, 54 cents went to administrative expenses (including lawyers, experts, and courts). Claims involving errors accounted for 78 percent of administrative costs.

A 2004 study of medical malpractice claims in the United States examining primary care malpractice found that though incidence of negligence in hospitals produced a greater proportion of severe outcomes, the total number of errors and deaths due to errors were greater for outpatient settings. No single medical condition was associated with more than five percent of all negligence claims, and one-third of all claims were the result of misdiagnosis. ~ Wikipedia

50% of doctors graduate with a "B" average
About half of those are "A" students
3% of those graduate with Honors...

Do you know what you call the other 50% ?

DOCTOR !

I hope I shed some light on your absolutely ridiculous statement

OK... So Check this out from their own web sites...

From 1985 through 1992, diarrhea was reported in 8% of measles cases, making this the most commonly reported complication of measles. Otitis media was reported in 7% of cases and occurs almost exclusively in children. Pneumonia (in 6% of reported cases) may be viral or superimposed bacterial, and is the most common cause of death.

Acute encephalitis occurs in approximately 0.1% of reported cases. Onset generally occurs 6 days after rash onset (range 1–15 days) and is characterized by fever, headache, vomiting, stiff neck, meningeal irritation, drowsiness, convulsions, and coma. Cerebrospinal fluid shows pleocytosis and elevated protein. The case-fatality rate is approximately 15%. Some form of residual neurologic damage occurs in as many as 25% of cases. Seizures (with or without fever) are reported in 0.6%–0.7% of cases.

Death from measles was reported in approximately 0.2% of the cases in the United States from 1985 through 1992. As with other complications of measles, the risk of death is higher among young children and adults. Pneumonia accounts for about 60% of deaths. The most common causes of death are pneumonia in children and acute encephalitis in adults.

" Since 1995, an average of 1 measles-related death per year has been reported."

Information found at the CDC web site http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/meas.ht...

And yet if you go to this web site and look at their graft... http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistic...

MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) injured 866.... ***deaths 57***..... total 923

Then WND puts out a story of...

WASHINGTON – While those opposing mandatory vaccination for measles are widely portrayed as ignorant and even dangerous by some officials, pundits and even news media accounts, Centers for Disease Control ( CDC ) records reveal a startling truth – while no one has died of measles in the U.S. in the last 12 years, 108 have died as a result of the adverse effects of the vaccine in that same time period.

The death statistics are recorded by Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, which captures only a small percentage of the actual number of deaths and other adverse reactions to the vaccine. In addition, 96 of the 108 deaths in that 12-year time period were a result of the MMR vaccine, now the preferred shot for measles immunization.

In addition, CDC statistic show measles deaths were rare in the U.S. before the vaccine became widely used.

The adverse reactions to the measles vaccines are much more widespread than death, points out Dr. Lee Hieb, an orthopaedic surgeon and past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons who has studied vaccines and written about them in medical journals.

In a recent commentary in WND, the author “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare,” revealed that since 2005 there have been 86 deaths from the MMR vaccine – 68 of them children under the age of 3 years old. In addition, there have been nearly 2,000 disabled, according to the VAERS data.

As a result of her study, Hieb questions the zealous push for mandatory measles vaccination.

“If you believe absolutely in the benefit and protective value of vaccination, why does it matter what others do?” she asks rhetorically. “Or don’t do? If you believe you need vaccination to be healthy and protected, then by all means vaccinate your child and yourself. Why should you even be concerned what your neighbor chooses to do for his child – if vaccination works? The idea of herd immunity is still based on the idea that in individual cases vaccines actually are protective.”

And the FDA has it's own data... (which I wasn't able to find at the moment)

So is it none ? One ? Or 57 that has died AND were those deaths from the measles and or vaccines ?

This is obvious a game that these cartels play to keep everyone guessing at what they are doing... and if they have to do that... it makes them distrustful

Which is why everyone looks to the independent stats that these cartels claim are inconclusive and or bogus.

Given the history of this government, especially lately... I'm incline to believe those who have done independent studies

There should still be a waver that can be signed... I don't have kids so I don't know if the consent forms are even available to be wavered

I've been in the Yahoo forums informing people of the many lies the Cartel three have put out ( AMA, CDC, FDA) regarding the vaccine deaths...
The FDA, CDC, and other Dot Gov web sites all have conflicting data and that's just on the MMR vaccine. I had a link to the actual case files on the FDA site. I flashed 101 cases up on a thread to shut three people up about how safe vaccines were in a thread of 20 people... Went to use the link to see the others cases and it was gone... I hit a nerve on someone who didn't like having their lies shoved down their throat... it was worth it though... three loud mouth frogs ate crow.

I said three years ago... if Obamacare wasn't repealed they would make vaccinations mandatory... I just didn't they would try it over the measles... I wonder how many people remember the Swine flu scandal of 1976 where 60 mins broke the story ? That was my wake up call to the lies the CDC puts out.