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6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 0 replies · +1 points

Look I'm done debating this too (many thanks for the conversation), but if you're interested in the facts of the case, might I suggest the Mother Jones article The Government Has Screwed Up The Bundy Case Even Worse Than We Realized. 4th Google hit for navarro ruling bundy standoff.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 0 replies · +1 points

Further comments please only on issues raised in the post.

I tried that and my comment was held for moderation. Still not up.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 1 reply · +1 points

We're a nation of laws, and that applies to the government equally as it does to citizens. The government didn't obey the laws either. That's my point you keep missing. You're welcome to your own opinion, of course, but as I said; the courts saw all the facts in the case and came to their verdict based on those facts.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 5 replies · +1 points

Irrelevant. You could say the same about Ruby Ridge and Waco. Doesn't justify what the government did. Does justify taking action to prevent a repeat. And don't make me laugh about the threat of armed resistance to the roundup. Read the news articles from the time - the big threat they repeatedly cited to justify calling in the hordes was that Bundy was referring to it as a "range war". The feds were the ones that made it so. The militia was a response to that. Don't you see that the idea that "we're the government and you must comply with our every command or we'll send in an overwhelming army of snipers and start killing your people until you do" is the very definition of tyranny? Why would any citizen want to support that? Tell me, do you feel like justice was served at Waco? Would justice have been served at the Bundy ranch if snipers had killed his wife standing in her doorway with her baby in her arms like they did to Randy Weaver's wife?

The courts saw all the evidence in the Bundy case. They found that the government's behavior was so egregious that they dismissed the case with prejudice. That's a lot more than a few procedural "problems with the prosecution". You might find it enlightening to read the verdict.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 7 replies · 0 points

I didn't say that the courts ruled in Bundy's favor on the grazing fee issue. We were talking about criminal prosecution for bearing arms in resistance to "perfectly legitimate government law enforcement", remember? And I didn't say I admire Bundy. I didn't admire David Koresh either, but what the federal government did at his compound had nothing to do with legitimate law enforcement.

Yes, there were "problems with the prosecution", but they didn't start there. The government brought an army of snipers to a cattle round-up at the Bundy ranch. The patriots I admire noticed similarities to the lead-ups to Ruby Ridge & Waco and moved to prevent it. Successfully. Without firing a shot. Now THAT's some modern-day well-regulated militia action. The courts threw the cases out because the government overstepped their bounds at every turn from the very beginning.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 0 replies · +1 points

My response somehow got hung up in moderation.....

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 9 replies · +1 points

Perhaps, though the courts disagreed in this case. In any event, what we didn't see was another Ruby Ridge or Waco type event. That's a plus in my book. That people were willing to risk criminal prosecution to prevent that is awe-inspiring to me.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - The Tokugawa gun contr... · 13 replies · 0 points

Having just watched a new documentary on the Waco massacre and its roots as an intended diversion from crimes committed by federal agents at Ruby Ridge, I'm freshly reminded of the necessity of the 2nd amendment. And while it's true that American citizens were more or less helplessly slaughtered by government agents despite their camps being well-armed in both cases, the response of patriots from all over the country to 200+ heavily armed federal agents converging on the Bundy ranch over a grazing dispute and the outcome of that conflict on the ground and in the courts proved that well-organized armed citizens can still prevail against a powerful government intent on using violent force to achieve a goal.

So I plan to head over to Bass Pro this weekend and pick up one of the new Savage Arms MSR15 models, maybe counter some of the negative press both companies have been getting lately for not kowtowing to people who just don't get firearms and don't realize that their efforts, though well-intentioned, would probably be better spent working to make swimming pools safer for children, for instance. (Or maybe keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable government agents - Got a plan for that?)

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - No donation to America... · 4 replies · +1 points

I am confident that a man of your compassion is capable of expressing opposition to an unworthy figure who is snatching healthcare from millions of people more effectively than to publicly snatch your support from a worthy cause. The means are in opposition to the ends, and the tone has a "Cancer patients depend on continuing research to drive improvements in treatments and cures? Screw 'em! What's important here is that a guy I loathe might profit from their fund-raiser" smell to it.

6 years ago @ The Reality-Based Comm... - Lies, damned lies, and... · 0 replies · +2 points

CO2 is the least of coal's pollutants to worry about. Good riddance.

But it doesn't quite seem fair to criticize the reference case, piece of junk that it may be, for anticipating greater demand for gas than is inferred by recognizing that demand for electricity is currently trending flat (only for the last few years, having leveled off after a longer downward trend) and also for anticipating greater demand for petroleum than is inferred by recognizing an electric vehicle revolution just getting underway. If we take the EV revolution - which seems to account for much of the leveling in electric trend and quite litkely to push it dramatically upward over the coming decades - into account in both scenarios, I agree that the Petro projections seem far too high, but something is going to meet the increased demand for electricity that replaces it.

Can solar and wind can pick up all the slack in real time? I sure hope so. Gas may be cleaner than coal, but it's commonly extracted by fracking which certainly isn't eco-friendly. From 2000 to 2010, I regularly traveled to Lincoln, NE on quarterly business trips. You see a lot of trains on that drive, mostly very long coal trains. Lincoln seems to be some sort of coal train hub. As the years passed I noticed that the coal trains seemed to be not quite so long, and there appeared, occasionally at first but more and more by the end of the decade, flatbed cars (and semis on the highway) carrying huge windmill blades. I'm encouraged by that and can only imagine how it's trended since.