en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/714886 Comments by Sweetypie http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43882915 And if me and my friend are crazy...so be it!! And for those of you who think it's no big deal...then run out right now and rent a rated R movie and stick your child who isn't even a teenager in front of the movie, and do this often, and then tell me it doesn't affect them. Or walk around your house naked and cussing and tell me it doesnt affect them. Cuss your child out the next time they make you mad and tell me it doesnt affect them. SInce they are children, we don't know HOW things affect them till their older. Because thats when it all comes out and the damage is already done. But you all go right ahead and take that chance. I'm playing it safe. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:34:52 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43882915 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43882912 Then according to that theory....all of Standard's kids should move to other districts because of them being a problem. Let's not hold the school accountable. My child isnt the problem, its the school and how they handle things. It would be different if this school felt they didnt have to answer to anyone, but that's how they act. And I'd love to move. Are you going to buy my house? I didn't think so! Can I use your address so my children can go to the school where you live?? If it was that easy, I would have done it a long time ago. But it is a good thought. Just not realistic for my family. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:34:48 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43882912 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878516 My friend's son spoke up about the movie and the language Monday and was ridiculed for it by the teacher. Hmmm...go figure...that person must not be religious. I sure hope they teach some family member of yours some day, so that you can feel comfortable knowing that "some religious outcast" isn't teaching your kid. Cause God forbid!! What is wrong with those of you who think it's okay? Are you're standards and morales that low , or do you even have any?? Or you just want to be with the "in crowd" and not different or cause a problem? Then what do you stand for? Where do you draw the line? These are kids, not even teenagers yet!! Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:23:22 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878516 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878506 It''s a sad day, when Good people are outcasts. I'd rather be an outcast, than the popular kid who realizes one day, that the world doesn't evolve around me. I'd rather make a difference...A GOOD DIFFERENCE and if that makes us "Religious nuts" outcasts, then send me off to an Island far far away. Would you rather have your child play at my house or at the teacher who lets kids watch rated R movies? Cause I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't want your child coming home telling you about a movie they saw where people were having sex or them cussing and you ask them where they heard that language, and they say over at Mr/Mrs. Teachers house from a movie they put on. Cause I bet you if that happened, you'd be fuming and calling that person asking why they would show a movie like that to your child. But if your child came to my house and played, and talked like that, they would be sent home and you would be getting a phone call from me asking if you allow such in your house? And I can tell you that you would be extremely embarrassed. And if not...then that speaks volumes about your character and morales. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:23:16 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878506 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878481 If this school was REALLY looked into, you all would be shocked at what goes on there and what is overlooked, especailly by the principal! So until YOU have to deal with something like this...you'll never know what we are going through. I can't help laugh at how just plain ignorant some of you sound...and Im sure Im not the only one who thinks so! I think it's been long overdue with this school. For those that say she is a bad parent and ruined her child...please explain, since you obviously know them, what you have witnessed that would prove he is a ruined child. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:22:51 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878481 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878463 If it's that bad STOP TEACHING!! ITS THAT EASY!!! Go work at a college, where AT LEAST they are adults and you can hold them to higher standards!! Go teach in a prison, where you could probably get away with treating them like prisoners. But not at my child or any school. DON'T TEACH KIDS!!! THEY AREN'T PERFECT!!!! THEY ARE LEARNING, and you're hateful, bad example teaches them that it's acceptable to treat others that way. You get what you give!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:22:35 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878463 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878435 They say it'll be dealt with, but in reality, only a hand spanking will be dealt and everyone warned. I could go on and on and on AND ON about this school and the people who run it and the outright unspeakable ways they run it. Mr. Gizbertz should be running a boot camp, not a school with impressionable kids. Same goes for the V.P. SEVERAL of the teachers there should have their teaching licenses stripped from them and never be allowed to teach again. What I don't understand is, if half the people there that are "the problem people" I'm talking about, why don't they quit teaching? You make these kids' lives miserable, just like how you obviously feel about teaching them and having to deal with them. And the flat out hatefullness you express by your actions towards some of them and even their parents. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:22:17 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878435 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878317 And in response to why it wasnt taken to the principal first, well, have you ever dealt with someone and nothing was done? I'm sure you have. Well, if you knew this school and how they handled things, especially the Principal and Vice Principal, then you wouldn't be shocked why it was originally dealt with the way it was. Nothing would have been done. The principal thinks he's the president and does NOTHING until he is forced to. So it's brushed under the rug until you stand up and fight for yourself. I speak from past experience with this school and knowing others personally who have had problems with them. I have had to go rounds till I was satisfied with the outcome, but if I had just sat on my butt and done nothing, then nothing would have been done. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:20:28 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878317 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878255 If you subject them to things like that, especially at a young age, then they grow up not thinking twice about cussing someone out, or beating someone up when things don't go their way, or standing up to something (like this) or someone and saying that it is wrong or saying anything about it! People get fired from jobs because they tell sexual jokes, look at porn on company time or computers or use profanity, or dress inappropriately because IT IS UNACCEPTALBE and NOT PROFESSIONAL. So why would you suject a CHILD to that in a LEARNING invironment and then send them out in the world like its okay?? Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:19:32 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878255 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878226 If they think its perfectly fine to show that stuff in class, then they can't get mad at a child on the playground or in the class for cussing then. If kids can't cuss at school or be violent towards other kids, then DUH, anything rated R or rated other than G, should not be shown because it has a reason it is rated that way. ALL movies should be approved!! PERIOD!!! Basically, if you wouldn't teach your child to say the "F" word or "SH" word when they are learning to talk, or if you would not teach them to punch, slap or kick little susie or billy when they are mad or for whatever reason, then well you get the point!! Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:19:11 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878226 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878209 When a child whose family does not celebrate Christmas or Halloween or whatever in their lives, those parents tell the school that their child is to be exempt from any activites like such at the school because of religious reasons. And we all know that the schools would NEVER tell a child to just sit in the corner or ignore what is going on in the class, or that they had to participate because that families rights would be infringed upon. Well, I am HIGHLY religious and my rights were infringed upon. Because I believe it is wrong and sinful and do not want my child subjected to anything like that. But yet no one bothers to care how violated I feel and are just brushing it under the rug. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:18:57 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878209 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878198 A permission slip shouldn't be sent home for anything other than a rated G movie. When we start letting things like this slide in our schools, dont wonder why then when awful things happen. I send my child to school under the pretenses that they are being cared for and watched and supervised, (not as well as I would obviously) but it shouldnt be the other way around. Our kids or us should not be pointing out to the ADULTS there that something is wrong. There is more to the story, but it wasnt mentioned. All I will say it that it had to do with what another adult said to a child on Monday. VERY VERY WRONG, and had it been said to my child, that person would NO LONGER be working ANYWHERE!!! Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:18:45 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878198 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878184 My children are taught morales, right from wrong and the most important thing, that they will answer to God for the things they see and do that are wrong. My child said they occupied themself with other class things when the movies were shown. But they shouldn't have to, because this kind of thing should not have happened. I wish my child had spoken up without fear of being punished or ridiculed, but that is why they kept quiet and did something else so they didn't have to watch it. VERY SAD that my child felt this way. But I told them to never be afaid to speak up. Because they shouldnt worry what happens to them from the school or others there, the others or the school should worry about ME finding out that they were picked on and kept silent, because like my friend who spoke out about it, I WILL bring it to the attention of EVERYONE!! And schools certainly don't like negative attention. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:18:28 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878184 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878159 So since you would most likely disapprove of it in your home, why would you say it doesnt bother some of you then, if they watch stuff like that at school? Because you niavely think that they are there protecting your child like you would?? WELL APPARENTLY this school, and others don't do that. No one, NO ONE takes better care of your child than you do! And if you think otherwise, then you have a lot to learn. I do NOT cuss, my husband does NOT cuss, we do NOT watch movies like that in our home or at the movies, much less let our children watch them. ANYWHERE, ANYTIME!!! My child knows these things occur in the world, and witness them unwillingly when others take it upon themselves to act like morons in public and around me and my family. But they know and understand that it is wrong and do not do it. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:18:11 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878159 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878099 Well, let me speak from a side that only one of you can. My child IS IN this class and I was dumbfounded when the woman who brought it to the attention of everyone called me monday and told me. We did NOT get a permission slip sent home and we were NOT informed about any movies that were being shown. My child does NOT witness the things half of you say they "probably" see in the home. Do those of you who say that, did you witness it in your homes or you do currently, and therefore are saying that you allow your children to see and do the things that you do, so no big deal, everyone is doing it? If you smoke, do you allow your child to smoke in your home? If you drink, do you allow them to drink in your home? If you watch porn, do you allow them to watch it in your home? Probably not, because you disapprove of it because they are MINORS and you are still teaching them right from wrong. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:17:29 +0000 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/70337982.html#IDComment43878099