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5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Ben Roback: Trump's pr... · 0 replies · +1 points

This is the trouble with crying 'Russia!' so many times. Eventually people start to question it.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Ben Roback: Trump's pr... · 0 replies · +1 points

Try and form an opinion of your own instead of accepting whatever your television tells you to think.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Ben Roback: Trump's pr... · 11 replies · +1 points

They are phasing out nuclear and if they go ahead with phasing out coal as intended they will indeed be heavily dependent on Russian gas.

Trump often exaggerates to get people talking about a subject -and evidently it works- but he's absolutely right to point out that Germany becoming heavily dependent on Russian gas is not a good situation for Germany or NATO. He's certainly not alone in expressing those concerns.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - "Very tense", "a sello... · 10 replies · +1 points

The EU wrote it, so I'm not sure it's a million miles away from what will be accepted.

Once it's confirmed that 'mobility framework' is Freedom of Movement by a different name it looks like a win all round for the EU. Given they've been sitting both sides of the negotiating table I suppose that's to be expected.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Ben Roback: Trump's pr... · 3 replies · +1 points

The same US intelligence community which concluded Iraq had WMDs not long ago. They're hardly beyond reproach.

The unbelievable level of bias and expressed willingness to interfere with the election shown by the FBI has obviously given Trump cause to doubt the integrity and impartiality of the three-letter agencies. If they give sufficient cause not to be trusted then obviously they can't expect to be blindly trusted.

Strong-arming NATO members into increasing defence spending can hardly be seen as good for Russia. Compared to the previous administration's 'reset button' farce, scrapping the missile defence shield, Uranium One scandal and allowing Russia to annex Crimea I'd say Trump has so far been positively robust with Russia.

"...17 US Government agencies who have concluded interference in the 2016 election was ordered and carried out by the Russian state."

This actually did turn out to be Fake News. It was 4 out of 17. Of course most people see the lie the media wants them to see and believes it; they don't see the correction which gets quietly put out after everyone has believed the lie and moved on.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Robert Halfon: A secon... · 1 reply · +1 points

The house is EU membership and was bought for us by our solicitor without our permission. Turns out that living in this house means we aren't allowed to lock the front door and that the other people living on the street can wander in and out and help themselves to the food in our fridge any time they feel like it. The rules of our household are decided by the whole street and we have to send a part of our income to our poorer neighbours for the privilege.

We've decided this bizarre arrangement is actually quite awful and that we'd really quite like to sell the house and move back into a normal house with a lock on the front door.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Robert Halfon: A secon... · 0 replies · +1 points

If Remain is an option you can expect it to be far less civilised. It would no longer merely be a discussion on EU membership but on whether we still have a democracy.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Robert Halfon: A secon... · 1 reply · +1 points

Would a soft Remain have been the logical outcome from a 52-48 result the other way? What form would that take?

It's no insult to point out that the side with <50% of an In/Out referendum has lost the referendum. Making a decision on a contentious issue is kinda the whole point of an In/Out referendum.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Robert Halfon: A secon... · 1 reply · +1 points

80% + voted for parties campaigning on leaving the EU and ending free movement.

~15% or so voted for parties backing Remain.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - James Frayne: A second... · 0 replies · +1 points

There was no default option as soon as the referendum was legislated for.

Using your standard, has a majority of the British electorate ever given permission to join the EU / EC in the first place?

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