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5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Clark says his ... · 3 replies · +1 points

Wrong, and it was largely this inherent inability of Remainers to understand that anybody could hold anything higher than money -a concept totally alien to most Remainers- which resulted in them losing the referendum.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Brokenshire say... · 2 replies · +1 points

A referendum to clarify between 'Leave & Accept Deal' vs 'Leave Without Deal' would not ordinarily be out of the question -and would perhaps incentivise the EU to offer a better deal than they otherwise might- but the electorate has so little trust in the intentions of Parliament now that I don't think they'd believe the 'Deal' part of that had been negotiated in good faith.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Clark says his ... · 5 replies · +1 points

Ah, that explains their recent political statements then, thanks.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Stuart – "We ... · 1 reply · +1 points

I don't think May has the backbone for that to be honest. She is a Remainer and when push comes to shove will renege on everything she's said since becoming leader and 'begrudgingly' accept whatever terms the EU tell her to accept or an indefinite transition.

British democracy will be dead but at least multinationals will be able to continue using our infrastructure without giving up their access to unlimited taxpayer-subsidised foreign labour.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Stuart – "We ... · 3 replies · +1 points

Just to clarify, you think the British Government should prioritise the needs of Airbus over the result of a national referendum of the British Electorate?

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Stuart – "We ... · 3 replies · +1 points

Indeed, Merkel is the de facto Empress of Europe. Who ever agreed to that?

Has there ever at any point been a majority in favour of unlimited freedom of movement into this country? I doubt it, but we have it anyway and it seems impossible for the British electorate to end it, at least peacefully.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Stuart – "We ... · 0 replies · +1 points

"free markets, a leading memeber of the common market (pushing through the single market)"

Pick one.

We have a US administration saying they want free trade and we are prevented from even exploring the option because our hands are tied by our membership of the EU.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - "When each one of us l... · 0 replies · +1 points

In what way would Parliament exercising its control only to pass legislation allowing it to immediately give it back again fulfil the demand of 'taking back control'? That is Remainer sophistry at its finest, which let's face it is all you have left.

It's perfectly clear that 'take back control' means 'take back control and also don't immediately give it away again'. That's generally how the language is assumed to work. If the end state is not Parliament regaining control of our borders and an end to the supremacy of EU law then the demand to 'take back control' (your words not mine) cannot be said to have been met.

Sorry it's inconvenient for you that the nation running the EU has within living memory attempted to control Europe by any means necessary, including conquest and genocide. but it is what it is.

Anyway, time to watch my team play one of your teams. Good luck.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - "When each one of us l... · 0 replies · +1 points

It worked ok when it was a trade organisation between comparably wealthy nations. It started to unravel as soon as it became primarily a vehicle for business to gain access to unlimited, taxpayer-subsidised, almost-slave labour to the detriment of local workers.

They did quite an effective job of making it socially unacceptable to raise legitimate concerns about rampant immigration and population displacement for a while, but that was never going to last forever.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - "When each one of us l... · 0 replies · +1 points

Indeed, the next time my party of choice is in power and they lose a general election I will cite this precedent as being democratically acceptable and expect them to repeat the election until they win.

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