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5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Lidington fires... · 0 replies · +1 points

If TM is ousted as PM surely the next Conservative PM is more likely to be a strong REMAIN supporter as the majority of Conservative MPs voted REMAIN in the referendum. Why do people on this forum think that a replacement will be a hard line BREXIT supporter.
If the 48 letters have been submitted won't Corbyn unleash the No confidence motion (which he will win with DUP support) and will we not have him in Downing Street by this time next week, given he has the support of all other parties (and Remain Conservative MPs) won't he then be able to get his Labour BREXIT deal through which seems to be membership of the Customs Union, free movement, acceptance of all EU social legislation, and submission to the ECJ (in fact staying in the EU by all but name).

I think that the extreme Brexiteers on this forum and in Parliament are busily throwing BREXIT away through their blinkered vision and complete lack of understanding of political reality.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Why Conservative MPs s... · 0 replies · +1 points

What good would a change of leader do? A hard Brexit supporter like Boris Jonson could never get a deal through the House of Commons as the majority of MPs are for REMAIN and the Conservative Remoaners wouldn't support a hard Brexit (or indeed any deal short of remaining). Labour will vote against any deal proposed by a Conservative and so will the Scot Nats. Opposition to the 'Tories' unites both.___With the attitudes displayed on this forum both sides would clearly rather (a) destroy the Conservative Party (b) thereby allowing a Marxist Labour Party a massive majority at an early general election (c) a Labour negotiated deal which would involve staying in the Customs Union, Free movement, European Law (sounds like staying in to me.___Whilst 52% of the people (including myself) voted leave, 48% didn't and leave supporters need to accept that they have won the 'leave' bit but do need to offer sufficient compromise for at least some of the remainers to be content

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - David Scullion and Geo... · 0 replies · +1 points

Well where are all these alternate 'deals' which BOTH sides of this argument could support? A harder BREXIT will not be supported by the Remain wing of the Conservative MPs (i.e. the majority) and a softer one will not be supported by the minority of Brexit Conservative MPS. Nothing other than staying in will please the Lib Dems / Scot Nats, and Labour is almost as divided as the Conservatives but at least has the common sense to appear united.

I think that the majority of people are sick and tired of the political games being played with their future, their businesses, their livelihoods and heartily wish they had never heard of BREXIT and yes I voted for it too.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - David Scullion and Geo... · 1 reply · +1 points

I do wonder if some of the contributors to this thread have lost all sense of reality.

Labour under Corbyn very nearly won the last general election after the dreadful Conservative campaign which totally under estimated just how good a campaigner Corbyn is and how attractive his message is to Millennial voters. Jam today and the 4% rich will pay for it. Hasn't anyone looked at the opinion polls with Labour now 4% in the lead and gaining ground.

The David Scullion is forgetting the immense damage that would be done to jobs, the economy, the exchange rate by the uncertainty that would follow the rejection of the withdrawal agreement would cause, I shouldn't place any confidence in the fixed term Parliament Act - once the Prime Minister resigns Labour will sent blood and the combined opposition plus the DUP will make Governing impossible. Sooner rather than later a no confidence motion will be passed (probably without the government opposing it and we WILL end up with Corbyn in Downing Street. The result of that will be a No BREXIT OR an even more 'soft' one than proposed by Mrs May.

It is clear that Mrs May has done the best anyone can given that the Conservative party has two groups - one for whom no deal is good enough because they want a straight BREXIT the other for whom no deal is good enough because they wish to remain and see scuppering any deal as the best way to achieve it (in this they are supported by the Scot Nats, Lib Dems and a large part of Labour).

If the deal is rejected then we will clearly need to stay in the EU and that will cause a democratic crisis after the people voted to leave.

Conservatives need to start supporting the Government or accept an extreme left wing government led by Corbyn and staying in the EU customs Union permanently (being Labour's policy).

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Should May stay on? I... · 0 replies · +1 points

The point surely is that an expert communicator would have been able to handle the interview and direct it to the subject he wanted to address rather than letting Mair get away with blue murder.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Should May stay on? I... · 2 replies · +1 points

Whilst I really respect how Mrs May has withstood the onslaught despite terrorist attacks, fires, semi - disastrous election results (she did actually win) in the modern media age once a brand has become so 'toxic' its very difficult to turn the ship around. In the short term we need her to stay on - but over the summer she will have to step down. The more difficult question is who could replace her. Which of our top cabinet members made any constructive contribution to the election campaign? Who is an effective debater (certainly not Boris after his pathetic offering on Radio 4 last week he should resign straight away)? Who can demolish Corbyn's policies - surely not difficult given their economic illiteracy? We need someone younger, enthusiastic, quick on their feet, not a Tory Toff, in short a politician that is good with people (remarkable that most of our potential leaders clearly don't fall in that category). The Chancellor Hammond has the charisma of a dead sheep, Johnson projects himself as a buffoon, Fallon looks as if he is about to fall asleep when on TV - Savid Javed at least gives the impression of being alive.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andy Cook: The Conserv... · 0 replies · +1 points

Ok - but he wasn't by the end! It certainly took a lot longer than six weeks for the public to see through the Blair spin.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andy Cook: The Conserv... · 1 reply · +1 points

I have to say that I thought Mrs May should go ASAP after her disastrous decision to call an election resulting in the loss of what was at the very least a safe and sufficient majority. However I am in awe of her resilience in the face of all that has been thrown at her over the last weeks. Crowds baying at her and shouting 'murderer' over a fire that seems to have been caused by spending 10 million to improve people's lives, being blamed for terrorist attacks (even although the police response was astonishingly quick), trying to negotiate a survival deal with the tricky DUP who clearly want to extract every ml of blood for their 10 votes, antagonistic reception of her very generous offer to the EU regarding citizens rights, being told she is a robot and has no feelings, going from the most popular PM in living memory to being less popular than a 68 year old Marxist, terrorist supporting fanatic with no grasp of economics virtually overnight. How anyone can cope with this I don't know. A normal person would go into complete melt down so I take my hat off to her.
The British people have a deep sense of fairness and don't like seeing people hounded and victimised so there must be some possibility that Mrs May can claw her way back - but she does need to try and ANSWER questions, - she does need to start addressing some of the nonsense economics being preached by Corbyn - for example cuts in police numbers are a direct result of Labour's mismanagement of the economy when last in office not some fanciful, malicious Tory game , and she does need to allay the fears of her core supporters with better policies regarding social care (even if this means increasing taxation for the over 45s). She also needs to address the younger people by finding a better way to finance student tuition fees (I would suggest a graduate tax).
As has been pointed out even with the dreadful policies, dreadful campaigning (or none existent campaigning) she still managed 6% more votes, the highest Conservative vote since Mrs T and did actually WIN the election by a country mile past Labour.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 0 replies · +1 points

I wonder if there was another general election in the next 6 months could the Conservative Party raise the funds to fight it? Presumably May's snap election will have cost the Party all its campaign cash - but Labour will get refinanced by UNITE and other left wing Unions???

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 2 replies · +1 points

I listened with horror to Boris Johnson's interview on Radio 4 (and the replays). Eddie Mair was extremely unfair in his interview tactics asking question way outside Johnson's brief as Foreign Secretary - but Johnson should have been able to deal with the questions better than he did. He made Dianne Abbott look a proficient politician with good maths skills.
If proof were needed that Johnson couldn't cut it as PM and leader it was all too obvious to see.