en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/953806 Comments by Problematic http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15533395#IDComment87048868 I wonder how many beers had been consumed prior to the incident. Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:14:54 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15533395#IDComment87048868 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15479295#IDComment86202231 Mr. Ellis is correct, mass shootings on campus just don't happen that often. But to use that as an argument against allowing students/faculty/staff to carry legally concealed firearms on campus if they choose to do so is ridiculous. Can anyone honestly say crime doesn't occur on campus? I'm not talking about high profile Virginia Tech type mass shootings, I'm talking about rapes, robberies, assaults, etc. If these types of crimes were unheard of on campuses, then maybe the anti-CCW crowd might have a case for saying CCW isn't necessary. But they're not unheard of. So I would say there is a legitimate justification for people wanting to take measures to protect themselves. CSU has allowed legally concealed firearms on its campuses for years and the sky hasn't fallen. In all that time, no one has died from "gun accidents, escalation of arguments, stolen weapons, and other types of mortality." In fact, there have never been any mishaps at all involving a legally concealed firearm. Surely if CSU students/faculty/staff can handle the responsibility, their CU counterparts could as well. I guess I'm just not sure what the issue here is. Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:18:26 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15479295#IDComment86202231 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15375979#IDComment82244006 Boulderite, I would argue the "fearful paranoid individuals" are people such as yourself who are against concealed carry. In all the years that CCW has been allowed on campuses in CO, no one has ever used a CCW illegally or recklessly, and there have never been any mishaps involving a CCW. So what exactly is the justification for prohibiting students/staff/faculty from carrying legal firearms if they choose to do so? Why are so many in the anti-gun crowd so afraid to let this practice continue? Paranoia perhaps? On the other hand, can you honestly say crime doesn't occur on campus? I'm not talking about high profile Virginia Tech type shootings, I'm talking about rapes, robberies, assaults, etc. If these types of crimes were unheard of on campuses, then maybe the anti-CCW crowd might have a case for saying CCW isn't necessary. But they're not unheard of. So I would say there is a legitimate justification for people wanting to take measures to protect themselves. Yes? So tell us again, who are the "fearful paranoid individuals?" Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:58:48 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15375979#IDComment82244006 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15336655?source=rss#IDComment81299110 There are tens of thousands of people in CO, and millions of people across the country with legally concealed firearms. Even with all these people carrying, it's my understanding the violent crime rate is actually going down, not up. The violent crime rate in 2008 was the lowest it's been in over 30 years, and the preliminary estimates for 2009 has the violent crime rate even lower. So I'm not sure where you're coming up with this "increased violence" drivel. Do you have some facts to back that up? Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:07:51 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15336655?source=rss#IDComment81299110 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15117009#IDComment76455285 I'm just glad you were able to get the word out that I and tens of millions of other gun owners who have never killed or attempted to kill anyone are using our handguns incorrectly. Here I've been using them for recreational purposes all these years, not realizing that their only purpose is for killing people. Boy do I feel foolish. Fri, 21 May 2010 02:41:46 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15117009#IDComment76455285 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15117009#IDComment76440410 The sole purpose of a 9mm is to kill a human being??? OMG! I've been doing wrong! I bought my first 9mm handgun over 20 years ago. I’ve acquired several more since then. In all those years I’ve put countless thousands of rounds through those handguns and never killed anything other than paper targets, milk jugs, and tin cans. I know a lot of people who own 9mm handguns and none of them have ever killed anything other than paper targets, tin cans, etc. Thanks mountain2884 for sharing your "expertise" and letting us know we’ve been using those handguns incorrectly all this time. Thu, 20 May 2010 23:43:12 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15117009#IDComment76440410 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15096701#IDComment75713315 R.I.P. Ronnie. Sun, 16 May 2010 21:50:40 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15096701#IDComment75713315 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15078307#IDComment75458567 Good post, rimrockd. Unfortunately, it will fall on deaf ears as many on both sides of the debate seem fixated on VT-type rampages and other highly publicized mass shootings. Fri, 14 May 2010 19:59:32 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15078307#IDComment75458567 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15024005#IDComment73027407 Wow. How does my previous post rate a thumbs down? All I did was quote a state statute. Thu, 6 May 2010 01:54:50 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15024005#IDComment73027407 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15024005#IDComment73012438 18-12-105.5. Unlawfully carrying a weapon - unlawful possession of weapons - school, college, or university grounds. (1) A person commits a class 6 felony if such person knowingly and unlawfully and without legal authority carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a deadly weapon as defined in section 18-1-901 (3) (e) in or on the real estate and all improvements erected thereon of any public or private elementary, middle, junior high, high, or vocational school or any public or private college, university, or seminary, except for the purpose of presenting an authorized public demonstration or exhibition pursuant to instruction in conjunction with an organized school or class, for the purpose of carrying out the necessary duties and functions of an employee of an educational institution that require the use of a deadly weapon, or for the purpose of participation in an authorized extracurricular activity or on an athletic team. (3) It shall not be an offense under this section if: (a) The weapon is unloaded and remains inside a motor vehicle while upon the real estate of any public or private college, university, or seminary; or (b) The person is in that person's own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under that person's control at the time of the act of carrying; or (c) The person is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance and is carrying a weapon for lawful protection of that person's or another's person or property while traveling; or (d) The person, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as said section existed prior to its repeal; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3); or (d.5) The weapon involved was a handgun and the person held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3); or (e) The person is a peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2), C.R.S.; or (h) The person has possession of the weapon for use in an educational program approved by a school which program includes, but shall not be limited to, any course designed for the repair or maintenance of weapons. Thu, 6 May 2010 01:16:41 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15024005#IDComment73012438 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment69073575 I support the hunting of wild horses for sport? How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? I asked this before and you didn’t answer, but where are you coming up with this horse stuff? There are no horses in the article, and I didn’t bring them up. I’ve never shot a horse, I don't know anyone who has, and I don’t know anything about wild horses. What is this preoccupation you have with shooting wild horses? Is somebody shooting horses somewhere? Who is and why? As far as I know hunting horses isn't legal. Or do you know something I don't? Have horses recently been declared a game animal? Is there now a hunting season on wild horses? And as far as hunting in general goes, I don't have a thing I need to justify to you. If you don't like hunting, if the thought if it gets your panties all up in a wad, then don't do it. However hunting is a pastime I enjoy and I plan to continue it for many years to come. Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:12:49 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment69073575 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68903624 Hmmm. Let’s think about this a minute. You are aware, aren’t you, that very few people in this country actually need to hunt to survive. So that would mean hunting is an activity done recreationally - as opposed to an activity done out of necessity - for the vast majority of hunters. Since I, like most hunters, don’t need to hunt to survive (I can just drive down the street to Safeway), it stands to reason that I hunt recreationally and thus, I support recreational hunting. Kind of a stupid question once you think about it, isn’t it. The answer should have been obvious. I’m not sure what any of that has to do with wild horses or hypocrisy, and I’m not sure you do either. You don’t strike me as someone who’s particularly knowledgeable or informed about this topic – just like the rest of your anti-hunting comrades posting around here. Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:56:13 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68903624 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68828157 My continued evasion? You asked me once. Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about. Have I advocated hunting horses? Where did you come up with this question? Are you just coming up with stupid questions to ask, or is there actually a movement afoot somewhere to have wild horses declared game animals? And I guess I don't understand how I'm being hypocritical. Do you even know what hypocrisy means? Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:06:03 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68828157 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68780275 Tell us Xenu007, when was the last time you went hunting? What are some of the options for the meat? Does the hunter have to eat it, or can it be given to someone else? Do you know anything at all about the circumstances under which the animals were killed? I don't think you know anything about anything. Your ignorance of the subject certainly shows. But don't worry, you're not alone, there are many here equally as lost as you. For some reason self-righteous busybodies such as yourself love to offer their opinions and stand in judgment of others even when they have no clue what they're talking about. Maybe you should just go back to your World of Warcraft game, you're certainly out of your element here. Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:14:57 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68780275 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68777523 Taking a break from the cheetos and XBox? It never ceases to amaze me how so many people feel so obligated to chime in on topics they clearly know nothing about. Xenu007, are you related to NewsWire? Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:48:18 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68777523 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68777253 Hunting horses for food? Are you that hungry? Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:45:27 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68777253 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68773116 Clueless Neanderthals? That's a good one. However, unlike you and a few other self-righteous members of "civilized society" around here, at least I'm familiar with the topic at hand and don't have BS my way through a discussion about it. So tell me again, who's clueless? Ya know, if you want to come across as halfway intelligent in a debate, it helps to know a little something about what you're debating. Perhaps you should stick to topics you're familiar with. Maybe you can find a Dancing with the Stars or a Hannah Montana discussion around here somewhere that would be more your speed. Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:04:45 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68773116 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68756917 First of all sargeantschultz, if you had bothered to read the article, Sara says the family keeps the meat. If you have a legitimate reason to doubt her statement, then please let us know what it is. Secondly, trophy hunters and meat hunters aren't mutually exclusive. Why exactly do you think they are? If I go out and shoot an elk and keep the antlers or the head as a trophy, can't I also keep the meat? For someone who's supposedly a hunter, you don't seem to know much about it. Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:26:49 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68756917 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68732989 You do realize, don't you, that you can both eat the meat and make a trophy out of a game animal. I'll say the same thing to you I said to Mr. NewsWire. It's quite clear you and numerous others posting here have about zero firsthand experience with hunting. It's quite amusing to me to see many people so self-righteously and arrogantly offer their opinions on a subject they so obviously know so little about. You too are good for a laugh. And as far as your commitment to conservation, well let's just say that after your first post, I have to question the veracity of anything you have to say. Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:17:51 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68732989 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68731913 I have no problem with people hunting animals, period. I really don't care if they eat them or not. Some animals are good for eating, some aren't. I've killed prairie dogs, coyotes, feral dogs, raccoons, jack rabbits, skunks, etc and I can't say I had any desire to eat any of them. On the other hand, I've had pheasant, quail, ducks, geese, deer, and elk in my freezer and I have to say they make mighty tasty dinners. Mr. NewsWire, it's quite clear you and numerous others posting here have about zero firsthand experience with hunting. It's quite amusing to me to see many people so self-righteously and arrogantly offer their opinions on a subject they so obviously know so little about. If nothing else, you guys are certainly good for a laugh. Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:06:48 +0000 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_14899346#IDComment68731913