You really just like writing to see what you wrote on a website, not actually read the site or what it is about then? You actually asked "What exactly is a 9-12 mindset"? Ummmm, dude, go to top of page, and click on the blue links, and READ before you ask questions. Think before you speak, empower yourself through knowledge, leave the red state blue state mentality at the door.......
The problem is, most liberals are living on socialized welfare, and have all the time in the world to march, those of us working 50+ hours a week, find it hard to actually take a week off to do what needs to be done.......
Of course, cause you have been around liberals so long you know how it works, the only reason a liberal does anything is because of profit for their own little well being, kind of like Al Gore and his global warming crap. As soon as he explains how the world came out of the last global ice age, and the planet warmed way more than it has now, maybe I might listen to him. I don't believe that I had to pay to watch a movie by Glenn Beck to be part of this forum, nor did I have to pay anyone to find a very easy way to get a hold of my Representives in Washington from this site.......... What a money hungry bastard he was for starting this up.
And this is why I love this country, you and I get to discuss this without fear of reprisal. You have to know that I am in no way dogging what you are saying, I just like the ability to write my feelings along with other great Americans, and unlike some severe right wing or severe left wing folks, I actually like to read opposing views from my own. Being challenged is great! I do have great respect for what you are saying.
Aren't you just the clever little person. Seriously, you don't have anything better to do than to take a shot at a single person when this whole site is set up to not be about a single person, but a place to have everyone come together? Let me guess, you like to go around to churches and out reach programs where people are finding help and telling them that the person(s) leading it are ex cons, ex drug users, etc. Guess that people who are trying to help others shouldn't be allowed if they might have had an issue in the past. "retarded right wing nutjobs", I mean come on, you can do better than that, can't you? How about something original for once.........
I do agree with you that a belief in God isn't needed to be a good patriot. I believe that just being on here and discussing the issues makes you a better patriot than someone who just wants to sit blindly to the sidelines in this country. I wrote to my Representitive tonight! Thanks to the links on this website.
Neither was Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter, but you see how much more credibility that little letter he wrote carries to this day. A letter he wrote personally, not with any others bringing in on their opinions, but is the most sited letter for the separation of church and state. I am a non-demoninational Christian, and I do believe that everyone in this country has the right to believe in what they want to believe in, but to say the the Founding Fathers may have been talking about a natural scientific phenomena... come on now, that is really stretching it. I do believe that the Presidents are still sworn in using a Bible, and not a book on scientific phenomena.
The founding Fathers were Christians in the same way most Christians are today, they believe greatly in an ever presence of God, but have their own issues with their churches, nothing new there, that is how it seems to always be. BUT, our RIGHTS are given to us from God, or so says all the papers these men drew up. They just didn't want a Church of the United States, like the Church of England. To quote from the Declaration for where our rights are derived from: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR.......
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