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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment314035856</link>
<description>Well then you should watch this then:        Kazakhstan passes restrictive religion law         &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch\?v=JLGQPWrZGT8&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGQPWrZGT8&lt;/a&gt;  Btw, I only sited China because the writer used China as the prime example of how secularism can help religion flourish.  </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : The PA Follows the Yellow Brick Road</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2012/02/the-pa-follows-the-yellow-brick-road.html#IDComment314032280</link>
<description>Hamas will renounce violence once Israel renounces violence, stops building settlements and allow for the return of Naqba refugees, all within a one state solution.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0219-26.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0219-26.htm&lt;/a&gt; </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : South Sudan Is Not Arab</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/07/south-sudan-is-not-arab.html#IDComment265079908</link>
<description>I like this statement: //Thus, a South Sudanese identity, if proven to be financially beneficial, will develop a national aspiration stronger than that of, say, how Bangladeshis feel about Bangladesh (although their country was born less than 40 years ago). // </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : South Sudan Is Not Arab</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/07/south-sudan-is-not-arab.html#IDComment265073386</link>
<description>I agree with Idris. Today we consider any person who has ancestors within 2 generations, who spoke Arabic, to be Arab.             Ethnically speaking Arabs are the decedents of beduins from the Hijaz.. We cannot ignore that before the conquest of the Middle East by Arabs, there were civilizations who neither spoke Arabic nor considered themselves to be remotely ethnically related to the southern desert tribes. Assyrians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Jews, Carthaginians, Nubians, and Yemenis, all had their unique racial identities and unique languages; until ofcourse they started using Arabic more frequently than their own mother-tongues.             Correct me if I am wrong, but maybe it is just the closet racists who would refuse to &amp;#039;grant&amp;#039; Sudanese the &amp;#039;honor&amp;#039; of being called Arab, becasue the Sudanese are black. </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Stephen Hawking&#039;s Godless Universe</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/08/stephen-hawkings-godless-universe.html#IDComment235181171</link>
<description>//Do you understand what this entails? That means the problem is in the HUMAN EYE itself, and unless you are suggesting there is another way to &amp;quot;observe&amp;quot; without using our eyes (the ultimate empirical evidence is see with the human eye), we have indeed, as Bohr inferred, reached the limitations of science. // //I said, a scientist is like a man with a hammer who thinks everything is a nail (quote from Mark Twain). In other words, even when a scientist concludes, through the scientific method, that science has reached its limits, a scientist would naturally try to resolve this obstacle with, well, SCIENCE! Because that&amp;#039;s what a scientist does! //  You, my friend, are clearly not a student of science. To your credit, you nearly had me fooled ;) ;)  </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Post-Revolution Egypt Needs Orientalist Perverts</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/11/post-revolution-egypt-needs-orientalist-perverts.html#IDComment235004036</link>
<description>LOL. Plz let us know his responses (if any).  </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Post-Revolution Egypt Needs Orientalist Perverts</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/11/post-revolution-egypt-needs-orientalist-perverts.html#IDComment235002038</link>
<description>Beautiful as always Sana. Enjoyed every bit. </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Yemeni woman faces the bullets of the state</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/09/yemeni-woman-faces-the-bullets-of-the-state.html#IDComment198820283</link>
<description>These nikabi women probably destroyed the preconceived misconception of the docile and submissive burka-clad Muslim women to the main-stream media viewers.  &amp;quot;Ban more brukas Europe?&amp;quot; So much for religious tolerance. </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 00:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment183269046</link>
<description>Officials in China&amp;#039;s western Xinjiang province have stepped up pressure on the region&amp;#039;s ethnic Uighur population during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.  Al Jazeera&amp;#039;s Step Vaessen reports.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EU0EQlmfDY&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EU0EQlmfDY&amp;amp;fe...&lt;/a&gt;  Those youngsters at Kabob who still believe secular states can make Islam beautiful should watch this. They would probably have their belief reinforced. (?) </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Hama Protests Today</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/06/hama-protests-today.html#IDComment166457431</link>
<description>God bless these people.   They are still brave and committed, even after the 1982 massacre perpetrated by Bashar&amp;#039;s father.  </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment158403494</link>
<description>I feel you! I agree with you that accountability is crucial for good governance. And Islamists believe in that very strongly. Umar bin Khattab once stated during a khutba to his people to obey him when he follows the Quran and the Sunnah, but if ordered to do that which is against the Quran and the Sunnah, to not only absolutely disobey the Caliph but to also see to it that he is reformed. You will be happy to know that Islamists believe democracy to be an important tool for accountability.    A hadith of the Prophet (pbuh) states that when confronted with evil to stop it with one&amp;#039;s hand if he has the power, if that is not possible then to protest with the mouth, if that is not possible then to hate it with one&amp;#039;s heart. However to only hate with one&amp;#039;s heart is to possess the lowest state of Iman.  Another hadith states that the best jihad is the voicing out against the injustices of an oppressive ruler.    Maulana Maududi (one of the pioneers of the Islamic movement of the 20st century, and an important theologian for Islamists) also covered on what you have stated above on the corrupt rule after the Khilafa Rashidun, in his book &amp;quot;Caliphate and Monarchy&amp;quot;. &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/tfclub.tripod.com\/islam_democracy.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://tfclub.tripod.com/islam_democracy.html&lt;/a&gt;    When all&amp;#039;s said and done, in the end one must agree that the system (no matter how sophisticated/good) is only as good as the people running it. For starters, American democracy is a case in point.  You will agree that high levels of education doesn&amp;#039;t guarantee the effective participation of the masses in neither the running of the state (Bush&amp;#039;s Crusade/Bankster Bailouts) nor the construction of just and effective legislature (Patriot Act). Democracy then just becomes another tool for the subjugation of the duped masses who believe they are free.  &amp;quot;Who is more enslaved than the one who falsely believe he is free&amp;quot; ~ Goethe </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 2 Jun 2011 03:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment158050307</link>
<description>I apologize if I have hurt your feelings, but I was just stating a concept. The statements made were not intended to be a personal attack on you. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 1 Jun 2011 03:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment158045258</link>
<description>//explain to the people in Alaska and Norway how exactly do you propose they fast Ramadan?/      This is the simple matter of fiqh (jurisprudence). Because the Quran is replete in its exhortation for mankind to reflect and ponder, Ijtihad  (making a decision in Islamic law which is rooted philosophically in the Qur&amp;#039;an and the hadith) is a principle methodology in deriving innovative and creative solutions to new problems.       //&amp;quot;secularism&amp;quot;: it means the law of the land is not determined by religion, but by reason and logic (which so happens to be God&amp;#039;s directive in the Quran).//      Islam and reason-logic is not mutually exclusive.      //Secularism (i.e. government doesn&amp;#039;t interfere with religion, and religious leaders don&amp;#039;t interfere with government) NECESSARILY MEANS that government CANNOT interfere in the way you practice your religion.//      Actually if you study sociology during the Caliphate times, freedom of religion was ensured by Islamic law. So much was it ensured that even deviant groups like the Kharijis and Sufis were tolerated by the system. As  long as these groups didn&amp;#039;t claim to be Muslims and blaspheme on the major principles of Islam like the finality of the Prophethood, the Oneness of God, and Quranic injunctions, these groups were given a free reign. This policy was the norm rather then the exception. It is needless to state that non-Muslims were free to practice their religion within the Caliphate.      We don&amp;#039;t need a secular state to ensure justice and freedom of religion, all we need to do is become smart, brave and intellectually free from bondage to kufr (see:European Imperialist) ideologies. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 1 Jun 2011 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment158035214</link>
<description>I could further add that neither has Hamas of Palestine nor AK Party of Turkey (both with Islamist credentials), implemented the Shariah Laws. Why? Like you said, the socio-economic factors must be taken into account by the rulers before implementation.   You gave a good examples of Umar bin Khattab and his relaxation of the punishment for theft in times of famine.    But that doesn&amp;#039;t mean that Hamas, AK Party nor Iran is secular!!     Different interpretations of the Law is a natural phenomenon which arises due to the unique individuality of man. And is considered a blessing of God. There is very little contest over the major Laws stipulated in the Quran and Sunnah amongst the different schools of thought. Differences, if any, is mostly over fiqh and the understanding of the socio-economic context of the applicability of the Law (like the inheritance Law in Iran as you stated) . Definitely nothing to be fought over. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment157561912</link>
<description>&amp;#039;Communist&amp;#039; China&amp;#039;s Policy of Oppression: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harunyahya.com/e_turkestan05.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.harunyahya.com/e_turkestan05.php&lt;/a&gt; </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment157560707</link>
<description>//Turns out that when religion is practiced in a truly Oriental, secular country (where government does not interfere with religion, and religious leaders do not interfere with government), religion becomes ever more beautiful, progressive, and spiritual.//        1. If you had gone on to describe any other country in the world other then China, then we would be obliged to at least take you and your half-baked ideas seriously. But it had to be China!! (?) A country which has the most brutal track record of oppression and injustice against the Muslims.      2. You went on to describe China as not only a secular country but : // (where government does not interfere with religion, and religious leaders do not interfere with government)// (wt...?)    Which planet do you live on?         3. If that wasn&amp;#039;t enough, you had to bring in religion; a subject, you have still a long road to master.     How can Islam be beautiful under a secular entity? Secularism smacks in the face of Islam, and pisses all over it.    Islam is the complete submission to God and His will, therefore the legislature must give priority to God&amp;#039;s directive.     Secularism is based on the premise that God is too dumb and backdated to be obeyed, and so legislature must be in the hands of &amp;#039;enlightened&amp;#039; people.    Do you see the contradiction?? Secularism is shirk, where men is obeyed above God. This is the basis against which political Islam sings. Islam can only be beautiful if God is obeyed, not if atheists/secularists/clowns put their own spin on God.    &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/pulitzercenter.org\/articles\/china-cracking-down-muslim-minority-uighurs\?format=print&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://pulitzercenter.org/articles/china-cracking...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Female Imams</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/female-imams.html#IDComment157006470</link>
<description>In China, to be a certified Imam, one needs to be a Communist Party member.  (*this is the part where you clap and laugh) </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 14:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Islamist Iraq</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/islamist-iraq.html#IDComment156262746</link>
<description>You make the wrong assumption that employing non-Muslims to the civil servis is un-Islamic. Where the did you get that?   Based on that assumption you come to the conclusion that the Islamic Age was Secular? I admit that the Sultans and Chaliphs were sometimes corrupt and unjust, but to label the whole system of governance as secular is just too much fantasizing for a real intelligent discourse.  The Chaliphate is a unique system wherein the ruler is not only the political head but also the religious head too. Never was it during the Islamic Golden Age that the rulers (however corrupt they were. its irrelevant) had a free reign to rule as they please independent of literal religious edicts. You must consider a more in-depth study of history to understand what I&amp;#039;m saying. I&amp;#039;m not saying they didn&amp;#039;t try. But when ever they did, they were destroyed, and so were their protagonist. Like secular Mubarak, secular Saleh, secular Clowns everywhere who have over-stayed the hospitality of the Muslims.  </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 07:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Islamist Iraq</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/islamist-iraq.html#IDComment156259290</link>
<description>//It was the very secular Arab leaders you now accuse of &amp;quot;banning Islamist movements.&amp;quot; There was no real ban on Islamists. It was the socialists, communists, nationalists, and other secularist groups that filled the prisons and jails of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. The Islamists were given free reign! //  Dude, who taught you history? The stoned hobo who camps infront of the Fine-Arts department?  Can you please give me sources to your this outlandish statement? Please.  //That&amp;#039;s because every other group (or attempt to organize) had been brutally thwarted by the Mubarak regime. The Muslim Brotherhood, on the other hand, were given the upper hand over all other opposition groups. //  I feel sad for your poor standard of education :(  I pray for you. Even tough you might think praying is useless. The only reason the MB still survived the secular regime is because of their comparatively high IQ level and admirable resilience to horrendous secular brutality.   </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 07:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>KABOBfest : Islamist Iraq</title>
<link>http://www.kabobfest.com/2011/05/islamist-iraq.html#IDComment155702663</link>
<description>Ofcourse what must also be added, is that the Muslim Secularists and American Imperialists have the most striking similarity; that of ideology. No matter what Sarakenos might like to fantasize over, during his tirades of blind hatred towards the Islamists (where did he get so brainwashed??), the bottom line is that him and his ilk are the intellectual by-products of the Imperialist-sponsored educational propaganda experiment.       In 1835, Thomas Macaulay articulated the goals of British colonial imperialism most succinctly: &amp;quot;We must do our best to form a class who may be interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern, a class of persons Native in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, words and intellect.&amp;quot;An arch-racist, Thomas Macaulay had nothing but scornful disdain for Oriental history and civilization. In his infamous minute of 1835, he wrote that he had &amp;quot;never found one among them (speaking of Orientalists, an opposing political faction) who could deny that a single shelf of a good European library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia&amp;quot;.       Sarakenos would have made Thomas Macaulay proud. Very proud indeed!!   But Macaulay&amp;#039;s Children will find only scorn and derision from Islamists all over the world. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 18:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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