" When nerds are complaining that they have trouble dating and then insist that it is because women like neanderthals it's entitlement. When they blame their dating troubles on the shallowness of women and not because they have the social i.q. and grace of a prehistoric cave dwelling mammal it's entitlement. The core of the argument is always it's them not me. You only get angry enough to blame someone else for your failure because you feel you're owed something. That is entitlement. "

Your argument appears to disregard two things:

1. The possibility that it's entirely possible and indeed has happened on more than one occasion that the women in a guy's immediate experience might say one thing and do another.
2. That while by this metric, plenty of women feel "entitled" to the attentions of men, there isn't even remotely the same level of hostility sent their way in circles like this one.

"Being compared to a fictional character from a children's movie is not the end of the world. Grow some thicker skin boss."

The Empire was nonetheless oppressive, and there isn't really a nice way to be called oppressive. I don't know why people think they're being sympathetic and doing people a favour by going "no but don't you see, people like you are actually our oppressors!", particularly when such a claim is founded on buggerall.

"Sharing painful memories of being rejected, taunted, teased and as a result developing an eating disorder with a man who decided that an opportune time to share his dating mishaps was when a woman voiced her concerns about her bodily autonomy being threatened seems pretty sympathetic to me. "

Yeah, funny how Penny wasn't subject to the same claims of derailing and making it all about her, wasn't it? She brought up her experiences in order to defang a particular claim of being disprivileged in some way - i.e. exactly what Aaronson did.

"They sure do, when the people with the prejudices have power."

I would entirely agree, however such a statement usually entails "and by power, I mean political and social representation".

Not quite. More than one way to skin a cat.

I did, it's just your response was completely irrelevant.

Sure, but no-one else is obligated to abide by the effects of ageism at large, which is reinforced by the attitudes of individuals such as her parents.

So, in turn, it's quite acceptable to challenge such thinking wherever it arises.

I find it rather naive to assert that such attitudes don't hurt anybody though. The same has been said of a lot of quite harmful prejudices on the individual level.

Sorry, I did imply you never approached. My bad.

Ideals are still contradictory, however. :)

"Oh, goodness, yet another person getting the privilege roles wrong in this example?"

Literally makes no difference whatsoever. It isn't right to make any such demands of any group, irrespective of which group it is.

And if you're going down the line of claiming that because male privilege, I should consider it perfectly acceptable for men to be subject to demands to cross the street, then I absolutely have no interest in what you're selling.

How am I misrepresenting you? You're the one who said there's no way to prove that any given guy isn't a rapist. That's not a great basis for relating to someone, and when such a mindset is directed at men qua men, before they've even opened their mouths - yeah, I'm not convinced there isn't some kind of bias against men in play there.

My point is if you are willing to go that far, to then not take one small additional step and approach yourself - yeah, sorry. Not buying it.

The point - again - is that the calling out for virtually identical behaviour is utterly one-sided.

And what? A guy dating only Asian women isn't racist.

I'm trying to dig it up. I'll need to dig into my chat logs, I think - it might not even have been jezebel. But I do remember discussing it with someone over IM.

And there's a pretty glaring elephant in the room with that one - again, substitute in gender for race.

You think a forum full of white people giving out polite advice when requested about how the big ol' scary black peoples can stop scaring white people would be taken even remotely seriously?

It is outrageous that the discussion would even considered sensible and reasonable in the first place. No-one has the right to request that someone cross the street just to assuage their personal paranoias.