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13 years ago @ Socratic Politics in D... - The Daily Me and Democ... · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ Socratic Politics in D... - Marcuse, the Repressed... · 0 replies · +1 points
This statement in particular grabs my attention in respect to the Fight Club example that he used in leading the class discussion. Whether or not the following parallels his intent for the clip, I believe it supports Marcuse's view through a loud example. Marcuse, feeding off of Freud's conceptualizations as agreed that there is a potential for a new project out of the critique. Yet, as said above, reason cannot be the means. Reason like a trench, leads only to more dark trenches. The light however, shines when you find the ladder and expose yourself to violence. The inherent reason, surplus regression, like a streetlight, can only shape thee if you are to abide by it. It provides safe guidance, structure, and reasonable stability. Go on red. Without suppression you expose yourself to violence, but only then can you channel it, and begin to suppress yourself, taking "civilization" into your own hands.
In Fight Club, the main character removes the streetlight, and chooses to channel the violence in a single parking lot rather than the open network of reason. The group suppresses the remainder (violence nature) in order or to live freely elsewhere. Edward Norton breaks the mental apparatuses as well. Pleasure and nirvana can be removed from the equation to see through the darkness, to places that systemic rationale have denied us. Marcuse has a sense of the same project, only in so much as he believes in it. Praxis however, has not been bridged for him. I am not sure if Marcuse can box, but maybe he should have given in it a try.
As you posted, "The individual comes to the traumatic realization that full and painless gratification of his needs is impossible." (13) I believe there is some juice left in the Fight Club fruit. Painless here is key. Civilization has never been made anew, reformed, revolutionized, or rather revitalized without pain. Violence is necessary if we are to adhere to pursuing such overarching systemic changes. Pleasure and pain are synonymous, one cannot exist without the other. Marcuse recognizes that the effort is made nonetheless, and I think that it would be interesting to see what Marcuse would have to say about the international arena we are faced with today. The violence is rampant, but it has not yet found its parking lot.
13 years ago @ Socratic Politics in D... - No Safe Haven - The Di... · 0 replies · +1 points
Similar to your disregard for television, and your awareness of it, you can make the choice. We can allow ourselves to be susceptible to this fascism, or we can find a means of escape. Your retreat to literature is interesting. I suppose that the dis juncture between you now, and Hemingway then, serves as a good retreat from that fascist Peter Griffin.
13 years ago @ Socratic Politics in D... - Manipulation and Subju... · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ Socratic Politics in D... - Hollywood - The Digita... · 1 reply · +1 points
I have a problem with the direction that Horkheimer and Adorno have taken in this passage. I understand the cynical nature of critical theory, and its attempt to make their own structure nonchalant so as to rise above systematic interpretation and discussion, yet i feel this is too negative. Media as a means of public repetition, exerting systemic processes through pre-screened film, is too obvious for its own good. I am left feeling a sense of guilt, as if I were duped by the film-makers, producers, and the "system" as a whole. The notion of manipulation and control sets in here. Adorno and Horkheimer run with it and yet there is no discussion of the willingness of the viewer. For what other purpose would one go to the theater than to allow oneself, for the duration of the film, to be vulnerable to the will of the system. Why else would one be annoyed or laugh at stereotypical high school characters for example. It is an a priori arrangement of the viewer, not of the producer, not of the system. It is mere common sense to posit their view. However, agreeing to the experience for the sake of the pleasure of vulnerability is the mechanism. We beat the system.