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Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:37:28 +0000

My personal beliefs are one thing to ask about, but you asked me which church should dictate morals. Forgive me, but I don't know how else to say this and I'm not trying to offend, but this is a ridiculous question. Did one religion dictate to our founding fathers? No! They were fighting for religious freedom for all. I've known people from many Christian religions and Muslims as well who live with high moral values. No church has to dictate that. God tells all who are willing to ask and listen. James 1: 5-6 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : 4/15/09: Texas Gov Rick Perry Sends A Message To Washington ...

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:01:13 +0000

Beck liked what he said on this subject, but outright said on his radio program that he hasn't agreed with him in the past. Especially on immigration. nothing is ever really an isolated issue. You have to research and connect the dots.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : 4/15/09: Texas Gov Rick Perry Sends A Message To Washington ...

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:55:45 +0000

on border issues, I've read that he hasn't been so helpful. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses and most politicians know how to talk the talk (or if they don't, they have a teleprompter to help them.) I think that's why picking a president based on character and past actions is more important than on a single issue or mere words. I hope Gov Perry follows through with his statement and inspires other state reps to do the same, but only time will tell. I'm glad he at least made this statement against the federal government. States do need to take back their rights and authority as written in the tenth amendment. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : 4/15/09: Texas Gov Rick Perry Sends A Message To Washington ...

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:38:36 +0000

"I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state, Gov. Perry said. That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union." I couldn't agree more. Amen! I wish all Stat reps felt this way!

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:30:42 +0000

The version where scripture and the words of the prophets are the word of God and not mixed with the philosophies of men. People who aren't Christian have lived their lives by depending on God too (though they might call him by another name). We need to be listening to and reading God's words so that we can also be allowed to receive that same inspiration. Our founding fathers did and were inspired by the Lord to create the constitution. In many ways, we as a society are too busy to stop what we're doing, sit down and mediate and listen, but God has given us His word if we'll only take the time to ponder it.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:06:28 +0000

lol! You're right. There would be a lot less married people "today". It wasn't always like this. In the past we were all better able to control our passions and appetites. In the past, adultery was illegal according to the common law. In the name of progression, these things have changed. This is a piece of an article from slate.com "The United States inherited English common law, which made adultery, as well as fornication (sex between unmarried people) and sodomy (oral and anal sex), punishable crimes. In the mid and late 19th centuries, when states wrote their criminal codes, they incorporated these sex laws. Twenty-six states continue to have anti-adultery laws on the books. These laws vary considerably. Some define adultery as any intercourse outside marriage. According to others, it occurs when a married person lives with someone other than his or her spouse. In West Virginia and North Carolina, simply "to lewdly and lasciviously associate" with anyone other than one's spouse is to be adulterous. Is a single person in an adulterous relationship guilty of adultery? All but seven states punish both people involved. Colorado, Georgia, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Utah only punish the married person. In the District of Columbia and in Michigan, when a married man sleeps with an unmarried woman, only the man is guilty, but when a married woman sleeps with an unmarried man, they're both guilty. Most laws make no exceptions for couples who are separated or in the process of obtaining a divorce. Punishments also vary. Adultery is a felony in Massachusetts, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Idaho, and a misdemeanor everywhere else. In practice, adultery laws matter little: Only one case--against an Alabama man--has been prosecuted in the last five years. Most states have not enforced their adultery laws since World War II." The article goes on, but the point is we're the ones not learning from history. We're the generation straying from morality. Whatever your views or for whatever reason you joined the 9-12 project, I wish you the best, but this is why I joined. Adams said the constitution was made for a moral and religious people. Many of the other founding fathers made similar statements. I'm fighting for a return to morality, a return to virtue!

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:21:55 +0000

I agree with your assessment of what's happening at the White House and understand what you mean by saying their lifestyles are the same as ours. They're children should get to celebrate too and need to be loved, but the phrase "sexual preferences aside" sounds like justification to me. In my religion, we don't believe marriage is an earthly affair. Yes, we sort out who we marry here on earth, but God created all things spiritually before he created them temporally. I believe that I will get to be with my husband in the next life if we live worthily in this one. I believe in eternal progression. The whole not judging thing can be very confusing. I personally think the word "judgment" has an undeserved stigma about it. What are our opinions but judgments? Everyone has opinions. No, I don't think the scripture is saying don't judge ever. I think it's saying don't judge unrighteously. We have to be able to choose between right and wrong and to do that we must judge what is right and what is wrong. The Lord has given us the means to do so through the words of prophets and scriptures. It is possible to judge with love. I have seen this happen many times. It goes hand in hand with the saying love the sinner, hate the sin. Very much in keeping with the commandment to love our neighbors. This really doesn't have much to do with the 9-12 project but I love discussing religious things so I hope you don't mind that I bird walked a little...

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:55:57 +0000

I completely understand that. Thank you for the clarification!

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:42:11 +0000

That's fine for you, but for a lot of us, we see it as an attack on morals, values and principles. Exactly why I joined the 9-12 project in the first place.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:39:53 +0000

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effec... It really does affect others.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:32:35 +0000

You're going to have to define the slippery slope argument for me. I'm new to all the political stuff and I'm not sure what you're referring to with that phrase. My arguments are based on scripture and history. No slippery slopes there. I think the key word in your statement is "currently", but here's some food for thought. By the way, thanks for the debate. : ) PUBLIC AFFAIRS: What of those who might say, “Okay. Latter-day Saints are entitled to believe whatever they like. If you don’t believe in same-gender marriages, then it’s fine for you. But why try to regulate the behavior of other people who have nothing to do with your faith, especially when some nations in Europe have legally sanctioned that kind of marriage? Why not just say, ‘We don’t agree with it doctrinally for our own people’ and leave it at that. Why fight to get a Constitutional amendment [in the United States], for example? ELDER WICKMAN: We’re not trying to regulate people, but this notion that ‘what happens in your house doesn’t affect what happens in my house’ on the subject of the institution of marriage may be the ultimate sophistry of those advocating same-gender marriage. Some people promote the idea that there can be two marriages, co-existing side by side, one heterosexual and one homosexual, without any adverse consequences. The hard reality is that, as an institution, marriage like all other institutions can only have one definition without changing the very character of the institution. Hence there can be no coexistence of two marriages. Either there is marriage as it is now defined and as defined by the Lord, or there is what could thus be described as genderless marriage. The latter is abhorrent to God, who, as we’ve been discussing, Himself described what marriage is — between a man and a woman. A redefinition of that institution, therefore, redefines it for everyone — not just those who are seeking to have a so-called same gender marriage. It also ignores the definition that the Lord Himself has given. ELDER OAKS: There’s another point that can be made on this. Let’s not forget that for thousands of years the institution of marriage has been between a man and a woman. Until quite recently, in a limited number of countries, there has been no such thing as a marriage between persons of the same gender. Suddenly we are faced with the claim that thousands of years of human experience should be set aside because we should not discriminate in relation to the institution of marriage. When that claim is made, the burden of proving that this step will not undo the wisdom and stability of millennia of experience lies on those who would make the change. Yet the question is asked and the matter is put forward as if those who believe in marriage between a man and a woman have the burden of proving that it should not be extended to some other set of conditions.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:05:11 +0000

Plus it wasn't just about inviting them. To my understanding, tickets were actually set aside for them. Isn't that inequality right there? It's always been first come, first serve. It's not like they would have been kicked out for attending in years past.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:37:28 +0000

I agree with you that they have the right to act as they wish. Liberty and freedom of speech go hand in hand. How you made the jump to the right to enter into a legally binding monogamous union eludes me. I don't believe you actually read the interview. There was no policy given. Only what has already been stated for thousands of years, that marriage is between a man and a woman and changing that has many ramifications that would be harmful to society. It doesn't take away a person's right to be gay. It isn't demeaning. There's no persecution involved. You can love the sinner and hate the sin. If it were that easy, let gays have marriage (which began as a sacred religious institution and still is in my eyes) and let church leaders not be forced to marry them if they see it as sinful, then maybe you would be right. It's not that simple. The government is already considering forcing Drs. to perform abortions even if they find it morally wrong. What's to prevent them from forcing churches to "not discriminate" against gays. That's the next natural step after all.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:18:20 +0000

You must not have gone to the link and read what was there. I'm not condemning or persecuting. Merely pointing out why this is an issue to many on the right and why it deserves a place in these forums. I have gay friends whom I love, but should their choices bring down society as a whole? No. "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Standing up for what is right is not a form of persecution, Name calling, defiling, ridiculing, vandalism etc belong in that category. I have done none of those things. I hope you would point it out if I was ever doing such a thing though. We grow and learn from each other. We get better by helping and serving each other. If I were committing a sin, I would want to be told so that I could become a better person and closer to God.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:24:42 +0000

This is about rights. Freedom of Speech, freedom of religion. I'm going to re-post my earlier statement in case you missed it. Here's why I think it's an important part of this project and why, I'm guessing, it was posted in the first place. "This is much bigger than just a question of whether or not society should be more tolerant of the homosexual lifestyle. Over past years we have seen unrelenting pressure from advocates of that lifestyle to accept as normal what is not normal, and to characterize those who disagree as narrow-minded, bigoted and unreasonable. Such advocates are quick to demand freedom of speech and thought for themselves, but equally quick to criticize those with a different view and, if possible, to silence them by applying labels like “homophobic.” In at least one country where homosexual activists have won major concessions, we have even seen a church pastor threatened with prison for preaching from the pulpit that homosexual behavior is sinful. Given these trends, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints must take a stand on doctrine and principle. This is more than a social issue — ultimately it may be a test of our most basic religious freedoms to teach what we know our Father in Heaven wants us to teach." - Elder Dallin H. Oaks.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:11:11 +0000

Here are a few good reasons - http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/publi... And of course we should still love them! That's true enough.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : White House Opens Doors To Gay Families For Easter Egg Roll

Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:46:28 +0000

Here's why I think it's an important part of this project and why, I'm guessing, it was posted in the first place. "This is much bigger than just a question of whether or not society should be more tolerant of the homosexual lifestyle. Over past years we have seen unrelenting pressure from advocates of that lifestyle to accept as normal what is not normal, and to characterize those who disagree as narrow-minded, bigoted and unreasonable. Such advocates are quick to demand freedom of speech and thought for themselves, but equally quick to criticize those with a different view and, if possible, to silence them by applying labels like “homophobic.” In at least one country where homosexual activists have won major concessions, we have even seen a church pastor threatened with prison for preaching from the pulpit that homosexual behavior is sinful. Given these trends, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints must take a stand on doctrine and principle. This is more than a social issue — ultimately it may be a test of our most basic religious freedoms to teach what we know our Father in Heaven wants us to teach." - Elder Dallin H. Oaks. It is a stand for religious freedom. If you're not one of those types, then good for you! Sadly, there are many who are like this: "advocates are quick to demand freedom of speech and thought for themselves, but equally quick to criticize those with a different view and, if possible, to silence them by applying labels like “homophobic.” http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/publi...

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : The "Back Tax Boogie" Continues in DC

Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:37:00 +0000

I agree with one completely, but #2 sure does wipe out the concept of forgiveness. What if the discrepancy was twenty years old and the person was truly repentant or perhaps the error was an honest mistake? Tax codes are complicated. That would keep good people from serving. I think a better solution would just to slash the currently bloated salaries of elected officials and have term limits. Make the positions less appealing and then those who really want to serve for good reasons will be found filling them (for the most part). I would also like to see more of these appointed positions become elected positions. I can see this helping in two ways. 1. They won't all be like-minded and 2. We can hopefully avoid those who are morally objectionable. Unless of course the majority doesn't care about morals anymore, but I think the 9-12 project is proving that's not true.

Glenn Beck - The 912 Project : GM CEO Steps Down, White House Backs Bankrupcy and Buyers Incentives

Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:08:55 +0000

I just can't in good conscience buy a GM in future. It has nothing to do with boycotting. I just want a car that works well and everything the government touches tends to break... This all is so infuriating. Thank heaven for the 9-12 project proving that common sense hasn't died completely and many Americans want values to reign, not socialism. God bless!