en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/452075 Comments by MrRich http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/17/71709-thank-you-912-ers-thank-you-glenn/#IDComment27597657 Glenn? Give up? That would definitely be change! If you know anything about him, which we all should by this point, then you know that core principles are Glenn's fuel and compass, so he won't be giving up and I'm heavily confident that we won't be either. We're all shocked when hear the word "change" because we've only seen bad, dumb, deceitful and corruptive change daily for a long time, but when the right people are effecting it, change is greatly welcome. Our founders brought phenomenal change. Wilson, FDR & Carter brought pitiful change. Reagan brought great change. And now, change is a marketing tool used to battle against our Constitution, our Bill of Rights and our Independence, but the direction of the battle can be changed too, through education, gatherings, votes and support of ethical representation, so start putting some cash aside to support people who can bring the RIGHT kind of change! We'll all be out here, website or not, but I don't see a "Close Out" sign on the website, just a plan to change it. Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:34:04 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/17/71709-thank-you-912-ers-thank-you-glenn/#IDComment27597657 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/17/71709-thank-you-912-ers-thank-you-glenn/#IDComment27590379 Beyond what our founders referred to as Providence, there is one thing that keeps this country on track, growing, prospering, succeeding on the principles of freedom, liberty and independence and that is the TRUTH! I'm talking about the information that, if all Americans had and understood, our country's current path would not even be a possibility. It would be loudly condemned at every voting booth across the land every 2 years. There has been a great success rate of division, deceit and indoctrination that gives the truth more value than ever, which gives massive value to those who find and tell the truth, so thanks to all who do. When deception is the means of success, how noble can the cause be? I'm just wondering if the website's change will cost the $18,000,000 that the recovery site will. Is that the new bar? One last thing that I'd suggest is the establishment of an idea pool. There are many ways that people can unite and converse and develop ideas or they can develop them on their own. It would be great to have a central, SECURE, trustworthy place to send them where actual patriotic leadership can sift through them and unite us as the ultimate interest group in presenting them to current or potential future representation. Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:09:05 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/17/71709-thank-you-912-ers-thank-you-glenn/#IDComment27590379 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/16/717-the-health-care-plan-its-gonna-cost-a-lot-more/#IDComment27509427 CONSTITUTIONAL MATH Add Government = Subtract Freedom Add More Government = Subtract more Freedom An infinite and 100% accurate formula. That's at the heart of my evaluation of all proposed solutions, so obviously, this current group of "representation" has me feeling physically ill just about every day! What if we all just stay home ... broke, poor, hungry, dying off to reduce the population and unable to defend ourselves? WIll that make "the playing field level" enough to make these people stop this endless barrage of tax stealing knot twisting across America? I doubt it! Every idea just comes off as being designed to tie down our economy, our prosperity, our defense and our freedom. Sorry, people, that's just how I feel. Say what you feel before they make a law eliminating free speech on the web! ... YEAH! That idea's been proposed too. Land of the free? Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:42:18 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/16/717-the-health-care-plan-its-gonna-cost-a-lot-more/#IDComment27509427 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment27050913 How do you find those groups? I usually call representative offices. I'd be interested in seeing your presentation and making parent groups aware of it. I'd add my support for teaching proven economic methods and state and US Constitution education. If you want to, put the update on your site and start a new topic thread in another section and post the link to that thread here to make me aware of it. I also think that it would be good for this topic and others, to have groups (the larger, the better) show up at representative offices (instead of TEA parties) with a written list of issues and preferred solutions that apply to that representative and have one person speak for the group and present the list, hopefully to the rep, but at least to his/her office with the message to let him/her know that the group was there representing even larger numbers. Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:13:36 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment27050913 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment27049730 Now we're getting somewhere! Unite at State Levels. Back down the Federal government take over by restoring the power to where it legally belongs. It's much easier to demand responsible governing at the State and local level. Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:51:05 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment27049730 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment27043137 Sure! I'm not presenting a campain platform, a full answer or speaking exclusively about education. 1. I'm just using education to make some points and I'm saying that "more spending as a solution" for everything has failed us on results. 2. I agree with you that "Free Market" Business & Economics needs to be reinstalled in standard education AND all of the things I mentioned in Pt. 2 -- "our history, our founders, their research base (The government structure put forth by the Anglo Saxons, the Israelites, Cicero, Natural Law and the economic structures of Adam Smith), their spritual guidance, reason for establishing the government they did (A Republic) & not others (Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, Oligarchy etc.) " should be reinstalled as well. 3. Poor education results stem from poor education. Results are directly related to content. Just as the expression goes "You are what you eat", it's also true that you are what you know and you know what you're taught. Knowledge is power. Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:00:49 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment27043137 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26967407 And one last thing I'd mention is that as far as this website goes, it would be good to have a reader on these response boxes to tell us when we're near the limit of too many letters in a post. Currently, I have some thoughts and type them out and then I get an alert that my response is too long when I try to submit it. I delete parts and and try to submit several more times as I keep cutting out parts of sentences. Finally, I have success and my reply is posted and sent to the original poster ...... then I reread what actually was accepted and sent. It is very different than what I wanted to say, so I edit what has been posted and make it say what I intended (in less words), but the initial post email still stands and misrepresents me. Just thought I'd mention that. a reader would be useful. Thank you very much. Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:21:56 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26967407 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26949163 First, I hear you. My education point is that our core principles are needed. I believe that better results come from better knowledge. Money is not a replacement for it. Obviously ... keep covering operating expenses. The biggest problem? Politically established curriculum & policies, not lack of funding. Stop spending as a solution. Education is one example of many where politicians attempt to fix problems with money & business as usual. We have power seekers who hold our representative seats, but having power isn't the job.It's our representative's job to develop real solutions. That's the job. Can't balance the budget? Then no new programs should be established. Cut programs and redistribute THAT money! We have handout systems that grew from assistance programs & organizations feeding off of tax funding without oversight or publicly open ledgers. We have a lot of diverted money. I'd like to see the cap and trade ideas used on government programs, not industry. Set long term goals to back them down like they do with mileage requirements! It's actually a good idea to cap diverted funds and trade it for responsibility and freedom! Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:52:54 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26949163 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26920845 Pt 5 - Final thoughts. 1. Education needs to UNITE Americans as one people under one Constitution and one Bill of Rights. 2. JFK, Reagan and Bush 43 proved that low taxes work better than what's currently proposed, so that idea is "Self Evident". 3. Our founders studied centuries of good and bad government. I think that they did far more research on previous governments, their successes and failures than any current politician. I think that our current politicians just need to study the founders as a sort of "Cheat Sheet" to have knowledge of good government. The words they wrote and the way the first 3 or 4 presidents followed their own words demonstrate quite clearly how MOST of our current issues should be dealt with. What isn't detailed still leads the way with detailed principles. Our current "Representation" WANTS to do things like children want things, but those types of wants have contradicted "Good Government" far too often and the results are obvious. I think that we have a lot of Breach of Contract cases in our government. The oaths need to be honored or we have no representation. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:03:45 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26920845 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26918684 Pt.4 From there? Yeah, It's time to present ideas everyone ... For starters. My quick, off the top of my head ideas are as follows. Start backing down the handout programs. Cut the Red Tape programs that cripple society and small business. Cape and Trade is the newest example. Don't start another. Decrease, not increase. Back government down to its place as defined in the Constitution. Expose the books of the Fed. Let's see what's going on there. .. Move to a Fair Tax. Open access to our own abundant resources. Let's use what need to and grow the economy, create jobs and meet our own needs. Let's be self sufficient and allow FREE MARKET alternatives to present themselves from PRIVATE investors and inventors. Natural gas vehicles seems like a good idea. Let the buying public decide, Not the government. Help private doctors Establish private health care donation offices/ Clinics for people in need. KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT! Politicians can promote them, but cannot RUN them or finance them with other people's money! Restore the things I mentioned above to our educational systems. Restore free market education. In my opinion ..... all of the above. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:51:02 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26918684 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26917354 Pt. 3 . I don't point the finger at teachers. They have guidelines. It's the guidelines and also the safety of schools in some cases that are at the heart of educational breakdowns. How many problems do we have in America? Many. Why do we send representatives to Washington and our State Capitols? As we go to work and live our lives, we expect them to speak for us, protect our rights and come up with solutions to the problems. What do they do? SPEND MONEY! They Spend money and redirect it and make laws and organizations that make another new crisis and weaken our rights! What do they do then? SPEND MONEY! ......... Stop spending. That's job #1. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:22:53 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26917354 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26916452 Pt. 2 It's no longer politically correct to teach our history, our founders, their research base, their spritual guidance, reason for establishing the government they did & not others ... Kids are not walking out of school with any sense of how the world works, having power to succeed, life plans, being responsible Constitution protecting citizens & where priorities are in life. I don't see new graduates with any sense of importance or any sense that ANYTHING is important or that self evaluation & improvement should be ongoing. No CHild left Behind did help before politics stopped it. It was a start. How many governors , mayors and presidents started new programs this year (ANY kind of program)? How many can't balance the budget now - with or without them? STOP SPENDING! It's NOT the answer. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:05:58 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26916452 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26916417 Pt. 1 Stop the spending is job #1. AN EXAMPLE: Education? Can anyone remember the last election where education wasn't an issue? Remember the last president/governor who didn't steer more money to education? Did they ever solve the problem? NO! .. & why? Because the problem with education is weak education. It's educational environment. It's politics. Money is steered by politics. Money's not the answer, but it's payback to unions & supporters & a shiny package that politicians present on the news programs to show that they're "working for families". Indoctrination is delivered through politics. Divisive instruction is politics. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:05:14 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26916417 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26582155 be careful you don't get fined for transporting hazardous materials! Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:32:15 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26582155 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26568961 That is a very powerful idea. Education! Spread it around. I know I will! Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:00:22 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26568961 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26567337 WOW! They set up a TEA Party at the Jackson memorial? I didn't hear about that one! Ha ha. I'll be glad when the news covers additional events again! I lived in NJ a long time. It always seemed like the state government and several local ones couldn't find enough ways to red tape you and take your money. Glad to see so many people in Jackson! I was in Philadelphia. It was a great day. Several hundred people and strong speakers a block away from Independence Hall and George Washington's personal copy of the Constitution. A powerful place to be when standing up for the principles established there. Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:28:40 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26567337 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26559857 Don't get discouraged. Know your facts. Be your own gentle reporter. We have disgust and big reasons for concern, but people didn't learn about Michael Jackson through anger or violence or anything except having him put in front of them. We have that same tool. It's the best one. We get the word out ourselves. We are the reporters. We are the educators. We are the alarm sounders. We are the vocal defenders of our Constitution. We are the people our founders called for to "Keep the Republic". It's a worthy cause that applies to the unity and protection of all Americans. We lent them our rights. They stole many more and ignore us. Go out and joke about them. Belittle them. That's how most of them got their votes. Undo it! Mention how you call for each bad bill and demand a no vote. Mention Congress.org as the way to find who our "representatives" are. We're all with you. Party On, TJ! Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:16:24 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment26559857 http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/Path_Presidency/His-Last-Moments-in-Office/1892/?pva=1#IDComment25262642 That's one of the most vivid and powerful cases I've read or heard for stating why it's important that we, as a nation and our heroes, as a military force went to a place that needed adjusting, especially at that point in history. I have massive appreciation for the weight of the assignments and the character of the people who step up and accomplish them! Thank you and thanks to all who have put the uniform on and faced the challenge. It would be amazing to see our "representatives" and President show more sincere appreciation and make the case to the world that those are the kinds of situations that you face and that the type of dissent we have seen here is way off base. This and future Iraqi generations have a much more promising living environment and future than they would have had if this massive job was not undertaken. We also have one less dictator's government and network threatening us. Walk proud! Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:03:01 +0000 http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/Path_Presidency/His-Last-Moments-in-Office/1892/?pva=1#IDComment25262642 http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/Path_Presidency/His-Last-Moments-in-Office/1892/?pva=1#IDComment25252825 Add Socialism? Subtract Freedom. Add more Socialism? Subtract Freedom. Add more socialism? Subtract freedom! Add more Socialism? SUBTRACT FREEDOM! Subtract liberty! Subtract individual independence! It's obvious that The intended indoctrination by the educational and news sources has created a massive amount of walking socialist tools to build their house of doom. The best thing the all knowing socialists can do is read REAL history. History of our great country's creation and history of the success rate and results of socialism, communism, fascism, progressivism, liberalism, marxism and now Obamaism. The government wins and the people lose. That's how that turns out. Bush made some big mistakes and I'm really disappointed, but he was far better than what we've had since. I really want some intense patriots to come forward, represent us and undo all of the damage done in the 20th century! Restore the Republic! Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:52:17 +0000 http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/Path_Presidency/His-Last-Moments-in-Office/1892/?pva=1#IDComment25252825 http://www.the912project.com/2009/04/10/17-socialists-in-congress/#IDComment18557653 Second, It is also clear that the uninformed voters who gave us this government do not get involved enough to educate themselves. Large crowds in the streets are something that they can see without having to work at educating themselves. It's not the boring news to them, It's drama. Some of the people will take notice locally because of minor traffic adjustments. Some will be told about the crowds and traffic adjustments. Some will see or hear about the crowds from partially ethical news source updates or reports on radio, TV or the web.Much of the news will belittle or slander the crowd's intents and purposes, but not all. People who don't pay attention, but still have some kind of feeling that something isn't right will know that they are not alone. It's a wake up call and a statement of disgust from people who usually just work silently while their liberties are squashed.The bigger this is, the bigger the next ones will be because a growing movement for the right reasons is just plain inspiring. GO! Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:12:39 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/2009/04/10/17-socialists-in-congress/#IDComment18557653