MrMabey

MrMabey

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12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - Actor Liev Schreiber t... · 0 replies · +1 points

I could see him going in in a few decades, when time has past...when suddenly everything is then "ok". but i agree it would be stupid to do so now, on any level.
That may have been a bad example. Perhaps OJ and his career. Or that pistorius guy from the paralympics that killed his wife? my point was just that regardless of what crime they did, it doesn't change their sporting accolades. I can still watch a benoit match without having to think about what he did, because i watch it for what it is and what it was.
I assumed when you said benoit supporters, you were referring to his career being abolished completely, when im not sure thats right in the name of the history of the sport. I guess that depends what side of the fence you are on regarding whether or not what he did was intentional or caused by adverse brain issues. But given the way wwe has gone since benoit and eddie passed, as well as numerous others, and how seriously they've recently taken concussions, one would assume that wwe feel it was due to head trauma, and not the person. But as i said, we will probably never know for sure.

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - Actor Liev Schreiber t... · 1 reply · +1 points

and if things offend you, don;t watch them. the world does revolve around what are you are and aren't offended by.

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - Actor Liev Schreiber t... · 0 replies · +2 points

Can i ask, were you offended by titanic? because sure as hell a lot more families were affected by that. No problem making that a box office smash though huh?

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - Actor Liev Schreiber t... · 2 replies · +1 points

Regardless of your thoughts on Benoit, i haven't seen ANYONE condone his murders/suicide. You act like people are saying he was a good man because of the murders, and no-one has. How many people he killed or who they were or how it was done etc is completely irrelevant as to whether he was a good wrestler or not.

Plenty of soccer personalities consistently cheat on their wives, as well as other crimes, but that doesn't suddenly make them bad at soccer does it?
The brain being as complex as it is, no-one truley nows what someone else is thinking. Due to the trauma benoit had with his, its likely he wasn't thinking straight, but he could have known exactly what he was doing, but we will never know for sure. No-one can really support his actions, but equally, no-one can deny his wrestling ability.

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - Actor Liev Schreiber t... · 1 reply · +1 points

I wouldn't say wwe took the moral high ground, or acted as such, they just did what was right for their current market. Had it still been the attitude era, i suspect it would have been less of a problem to show his Wrestlemania history. The problem is how PG the public have got. In my eyes, so many parents are incapable of raising their kids, that they started to blame everything else. I grew up watching the wwe from the early 90s, and although me and my friends had play fights/matches, we knew no to fully drop someone on the top of their head etc. The wwe, and many other coporations, shouldn't be blamed for peoples lack of common sense.

The wrestlemania match is solely to highlight the pinnacle of his wrestling career, its not celebrating the double murder later in life, its a pure wrestling fact. If you can't seperate the 2, that is your problem. Sometimes things are going to offend you, get used to it, brush it off and move on.

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - WWE Working on 50th An... · 0 replies · +6 points

totally agree. think 2 is pretty damn good. It's good that he see's that as such a bad thing, because in my eyes i'd think hey, whats 2 drinks? the fact he's that bothered shows some real progress!

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - CM Punk Trying to Get ... · 0 replies · +6 points

i don't believe it should be ignored, certainly not. It just annoys me when i see a match with benoit...a recent example i can think of is watching his ladder match with jericho from years ago. when you comment on a pure entertainment and wrestling basis, it was a fantastic match. the fact he killed anyone doesn't change that.
The same as other shave argued in other points, being evil doesn't mean you werent good at some things. He shouldn't be as celebrated as others, but to say he was a bad wrestler for what he did, is completely incorrect.

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - 6/17 RAW Breakdown: Ce... · 1 reply · 0 points

i don't know why i read all these figures, because i always think they are a bad judgement. Obviously regal/cesaro was going to be a good match, but after just losing 300k of viewers with the mcmahon/shield segment, it was always going to gain. Had the shield segment only lost 200, would the match have gained 41k? doubtful. I fail to believe that people tuned back in to see a promo between aj and kaitlyn but tuned out for a shield promo...

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - CM Punk Trying to Get ... · 4 replies · +59 points

Glad to see they're finally putting Benoit back on dvd's. It would be nice to watch his matches and discuss the wrestling quality, rather than bringing up other stuff.

12 years ago @ LordsofPain.net - Audio Interview: The S... · 0 replies · +3 points

i certainly think that's what the product really lacks. Back in the attitude era, you had HHH, Rock, SCSA, Taker and Kane all at the same sort of level, it made the title matches anticipating.
Where as now, you have Cena with Punk being probably the only guy near to the same level, and honestly, i do not watch any of cena's entire matches, i tend to just watch the ending, for 2 main reasons. the first being that his character isn't aimed at me, and therefore doesn't appeal. But the other is purely because you generally tell that he's going to retain, especially this soon after Mania. The last match i watched the whole lot of was his match with Punk on raw when punk hit a piledriver.
The problem there is that i think there are too many occasions when its an obvious cena win. Ryback wasn't going to win at the last 2 ppv's, and i didn't expect the match quality to be anything brilliant. No disrespect for what they do, but it doesn't appeal, so i don't watch.
In the 90s, whether you were a nation guy, a dx guy a ministry guy..whatever...everyone was watching that main event.
I wouldn't be suprised if there are others who don't watch the main event's. From going to a smackdown taping, i also realised how many people literally go to see just Cena and no-one else, which quite frankly, was disheartening for the business and product as a whole.