en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/3579095 Comments by Monaleigh711 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/29/voices-from-the-classroom-82/#IDComment231173430 Yeah, most likely not. We are not going to give another country the possibility of becoming stronger than us. It just doesn’t make any sense. I think not! It is difficult to see this because the media portrays the problems that we face as if it is the faults of those in the middle east. As if, they are the ones who are to blame. As if, we need to stop them before they get out of control, but in all honesty how is it really possible to know and find out the truth when our only method of finding the truth is run by the same government that is trying to do potentially selfish and harmful effects on defenseless countries. Perhaps, the entire terrorism threat is somewhat true but that certainly was not the only reason we went over to the middle east. No, there has got to be another reason. And its most likely for something they have that we want, which may be oil or something else as well. Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:47:50 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/29/voices-from-the-classroom-82/#IDComment231173430 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/29/voices-from-the-classroom-82/#IDComment231173030 Sam hit the nail right on the head it is not to do good Samaritan work but for our own selfish needs. We just want to go to other countries to gain their resources that we lack. Now, if we did have a great system that is working then yes I guess we could for the goodness of our hearts, but our system seemed to work just fine in the beginning and now we have so many problems. So, was it really that perfect of a system. And who knows maybe at first the system will work over there and then we look like big heroes, but I am pretty certain that the same thing is going to happen over there that happened here. Eventually, the system is no longer going to work and then the countries we imperialize are going to be just as screwed as we are. Think about this, do you really think that even if we did have the perfect system that we would just hand it over to another country. Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:47:11 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/29/voices-from-the-classroom-82/#IDComment231173030 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/29/voices-from-the-classroom-82/#IDComment231172813 I feel the answer to this question is definitely not, we do not have any business going into other countries and telling them how to run their country when our own country is so messed up now. Yes, people believe that we have a lot better of a country than those we imperialize but we still don’t have the right to. People feel that as Americans all good hearted and what-not that we feel we have a responsibility to go into other countries and tell them how to live their lives to better them, but most of them are just fine on their own. Also, it is complete bull that we are doing it to be good and help a neighbor in need. Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:46:54 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/29/voices-from-the-classroom-82/#IDComment231172813 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-77/#IDComment227210403 However, people still would be angered since any case involving children being victimized is not a highly looked upon event, but people in society these days look for non norms and even though gay acts and sodomy is a more accepted act, it still is not on the same common level as male and females having intercourse. Another thing that makes this case unusual is that Sandusky is married with children so the fact that he was victimizing boys the same sex when he was not even out of the closet and there was no indication that he was in the closet to begin with is also what makes this an usual case. As I mentioned before society looks and is glued to unusual cases so the fact that this was a highly respected man performing this hanous acts on the same sex is what keeps peoples attention. Had the case not involved boys but girls then I feel it would not be as frowned upon. Another question to ask would be what if the case involved both boys and girls. Then how would people react. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:29:13 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-77/#IDComment227210403 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-77/#IDComment227210278 be able to take place unless of course some other device was used. Now, if all the victims were girls and Sandusky was still a man then I feel it would only be a bit different of a situation. This is due to gay p ride I feel that the reason why this is such an odd and malicious case is because it was boy on boy action. Now that does not mean, that if the victims were girls that people would not be outraged because they definitely would be but still I feel that there would be a bit less publicity on the case if that was the case. I think the answer to this question all goes back to the role of male dominance in a subconscious way. Little boys are not supposed to be victimized, males in general are not supposed to be victimized because they are the strong ones. So, In society this in no way should be happening. However if the case was girls, male on female contact occurs more often then the lather case so it would not be as extreme since its kind of a more common thing Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:28:51 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-77/#IDComment227210278 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-77/#IDComment227204731 If only females were involved, Im not sure if that means only women in general such as if Sandusky was also a woman or if that means just the victims were women. Therefore i will approach this question from two different angles. First of all, if Sandusky was a woman then it would be a bit of a different case because women cant really sodomize other women so therefore i dont think it would be seen as hanous since no actual penetration would be Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:12:59 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-77/#IDComment227204731 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-59/#IDComment218774919 I am trying to think of whether or not if I heard a language such as one I had never heard of before if I would feel uncomfortable. I don’t think so, but I could be wrong. There were a few times when I worked at the Aeropostale in the mall that I heard languages such as Russian or Ukranian and I asked the people where they were from and they told me, but even then I did not feel uncomfortable more intriqued if anything else. So, I guess to answer the question: Do you feel uncomfortable when another language is spoken around you? I would have to answer no because I have been pre-exposed to different cultures; however, if I was born completely white and have not been exposed to different cultures then I most likely would be writing a completely different answer to the question right now. So, I think it is safe to say that it depends where you grow up and what you come across as to whether you are uncomfortable or not. Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:55:47 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-59/#IDComment218774919 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-59/#IDComment218774846 I don’t understand why someone would feel weird around someone speaking a different language around them. I mean, people of a different country, language, and culture have to and need to speak to each other too. That is how people communicate. Honestly, I have never met anyone who didn’t like it or was uncomfortable when someone around them was speaking a language that they could not understand; unless, that person never admitted it. I guess it could be possible. The only time I feel that a person would be uncomfortable is if they were not exposed to any other culture other than the white one. If someone is born in white suburbia and they never heard another language or saw a different skin colored person then they would not be used to it and thus would most likely feel incredibly uncomfortable. I however being half Chinese and a bunch of other European countries on my other side have been very much exposed to different cultures so it never bothered me. Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:55:35 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-59/#IDComment218774846 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-59/#IDComment218774773 Whenever I hear someone speaking a different language, I don’t really mind. Sometimes if I studied somewhat the language I would see if I can pick out words and if I can be able to tell what they are saying. It is kind of funny, but in a way I try and eavesdrop when someone is speaking a different language around me. Just, in order to see if I can understand any parts. Of course, most of the times I can not comprehend and so I just give up after a while, but every once in a while I can understand and then I feel good about myself. Currently, I am taking Chinese as my foreign language and one day this Asian kid sat next to me on the bus and I heard him speaking on the phone in Chinese; I could actually understand what he was saying. During, this time there was a Chinese word that I couldn’t understand and needed help trying to figure out what it was for my homework the next day. So, in Chinese I asked him if he could speak English to which he replied yes and then I asked him what the word was and he told me. I felt so good I could actually understand him enough to finish my homework. Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:55:23 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-59/#IDComment218774773 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216966199 YOu really dont think that the boarder is controlled at all, you think that we get illegal immigrants who are stupid and just so happen to make it across a heavily guarded boarder. I dont think so. I have been between the boarder of Mexico and the US and have seen first hand that even if your an American citizen they still grill you to make sure that you say who you are and are not lying. So, we are getting the most hard working and clever immigrants that are illegal; therefore, even though for most immigrants it would be highly beneficial to learn the language in order to survive. I dont think that it applys to illegal immigrants because they are smart enough to survive crossing a boarder illegally. SO, im sure they can survive not understanding a language. Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:49:41 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216966199 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216966030 An immigrant would probably get a better paid job as well as a not as laborious one but most illegal immigrants were able to come to the US because they are very hard working. Im pretty sure that the none hard working immigrants wouldn't be able to get through the border if they were not intelligent and had a special trade. Therefore, most immigrants in order to get through the border need to be able to either be really lucky or have to have some sort of street smart; otherwise, they wouldn't be clever enough to make it through. Most likely they would get caught. Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:49:15 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216966030 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216965641 I don't understand why it bothers people so much, when an immigrant doesn't assimilate; I mean they have their own culture and just because they left their country for a better life then why should they have to give up their roots. I myself would try and learn the language in the country that i had just moved to; mainly, because it is beneficial. I think people forget though that English is one of the toughest languages to learn because the rules and grammar are very cumbersome. But yes i do feel like that for the benefit of the immigrant it would make sense for them to learn the language in which they have moved to and are currently residing in. We shouldn't force them to especially in a country such as the United States of America that is a whole plethora of languages and cultures that shape its single unified culture. Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:48:24 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216965641 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216965034 Even though I feel that the situation is the same for both illegal and legal immigrants that they shouldn't be forced to learn the English language. There are still two different reasons for why i think that illegal immigrants shouldnt be forced to learn the language as well as legal immigrants. It is so strange to me that this is even an issue, I feel like Americans shouldn't make people learn a language. It is difficult to learn a language and if your working hard all the time then there probably isn't enough time to even learn a language. Yeah, immigrants would benefit if they learned the language but i don't think that they should have to learn a language. Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:47:34 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/01/voices-from-the-classroom-20/#IDComment216965034 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-52/#IDComment210666604 Im not exactly sure how to answer this question, but I can give my insights into why I think this may be. I feel like there are a couple of different reasons. First of all, jim crow laws did not get lifted until the 70’s, which means that white people are still newly used to the idea of equality. Keep in mind even though it seems like a long time ago, 70 years is really only about 40 years ago, which is only one or two generations old. It’s a known fact that a lot of children become like their parents whether they like it or not. That’s why a lot times you here someone say, “Oh god, I sound just like my parents.” So, when you have grandparents who tell your parents that black people are really messed up, and don’t deserve equality then chances are the kid is going to think the exact same thing just because he or she is conditioned to think that way. Then, that person in turn passes it on to their child and then so on. This is how it spreads from generation to generation. And its not that persons fault, because they are just doing and feeling the way they have been told to for basically their whole life. Another reason why there is latent racism is because of something called the labeling theory, which is where someone gets labeled to be a certain way, kind of like stereotyping and then that person is automatically said to be that way. This also causes white people to feel like they are like this when really only a bit actually are but then again a bunch of white people and people of all other races act this way too. But just because the white person sees another person act a certain way and they already have that preconceived notion in their head; then one person who does this act that is said to be portrayed by a certain race, and that race does this then the white person automatically assumes that all of the people in that race are like this when really they aren’t, but that unfortunately is all the white person sees, and then they are blinded and miss out on all the people of the same stereotyped race who are not like this. But in their mind its actually all of them. Its really unfortunate that this happens but again its not the direct fault of the white person because society tells them that this is a certain thing and then they believe it. Racism jokes are funny sometimes almost everyone gets a laugh a joke that is a race that isn’t theirs, most will get offended if the race is theres but some don’t. However these jokes put these stereotypes and images in other peoples head that might not actually be there. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:56:20 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-52/#IDComment210666604 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207188809 First of all, which one is Abby and which one is Brittany did the documentary ever clarify which is which? This is so crazy to see, how do they live their life the way they do. It is interesting that their friends are so open about it and they do not get picked on it seems like at all. I’m going to openly admit that seeing conjoined twins down the street is extremely odd and would definitely cause me to do a double take. I mean if they fight with one another as they said they do sometimes then it is not like one can leave the other one alone like other sisters or non-conjoined twins can, and what do they do if one has an activity somewhere and the other has another activity at another place, and both are occurring at the same time? Its amazing to me that they are so open to this and treat it very normal. Don’t get me wrong I think it is great and their parents, Mike and Patty, should very much be appraised for raising their daughters to feel this way. I have always thought that normal is what you make it to be, if you don’t let other people put you down then chances are they wont. If something is seen as strange but you don’t make it out to be that way and are just yourself then it wont be seen that way. Perception is what you make of it in other words. But im just curious they said they don’t have to think of it now, but if the sisters were to get married would they get married to two different guys or would it just be one guy and the child how would they determine who the child specifically belongs to, would they have any way of determining scientifically who it is? Also with sex if they have two different husbands or boyfriends would it be considered a three-some. Also, the one of the left, I think Brittany, doesn’t her neck hurt from being on that angle. It looks like she constantly has to crane her neck. What about taking tests, and playing sports? For tests, do they take them together as well as homework or do they each get a separate test they both have two different brains but is cheating an issue at all? Do they know what one another is thinking? Like I said before it is amazing that the two girls are so cool about this but I still feel that there are some complicated issues that are going to have to be developed and dealt with in the future. The one doctor said that the one on the left doesn’t feel the one on the rights arm. I wonder how far the pain and feeling receptors go? What about their legs? What about their mid section who feels what? Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:24:30 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207188809 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204469547 I was very moved and touched by the man who stopped and defended the kid being bullied and then professed that he was an ex bully. That really makes me feel and think that there is hope yet in the world. He was even trying to give those boys a life lesson; which is really great on his part. The other people that stopped were those two girls at the end of the video. That was really nice for them to do because its one thing for the big ex-bully guy to stop since hes big then those kids mostly likely wont mess with him if they are smart, but for the girls to stop when they are smaller than most of those guys was great. This video was shocking at times and made me happy and sad in others but one thing is for sure it definitely opened by eyes. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:50:54 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204469547 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204469436 I feel bad for the kid who was being bullied because he said that he actually did go through that before when he was younger, so it must have been really hard for him in a deeper level to now just pretend or act like he was being bullied. Props go out to him for that; I think it took a lot of guts on his part. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:50:37 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204469436 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204469359 I have a theory as to why some people didn’t stop. I know, Its terrible to say but perhaps some people did not initially stop because they are not in the group that supports public gay pride. Having said that; I’m actually really impressed that people actually did stop and help out. For those who just watched it happen and snickered out of shock I wouldn’t say they are bad people but they definitely should have done something. I like to look at it from my own perspective. If I was being bullied around; I would want someone to help me, and therefore I feel others expect me to do the same, and I expect myself to do the same out of respect for wanting the same courtesy to be bestowed upon me. I can honestly and positively say that if I was posed with the same situation, as in if I was just walking by and saw a bunch of guys bullying another person, if it’s a legit reason ill stop. Such as, the guys bullying a guy for being gay. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:50:20 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204469359 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204468753 First of all, I would like to say that it is important to remember that this is a tv show so therefore the number one thing they are looking for is ratings. With that in mind, everything that occurred in clip probably wasn’t everything that happened. Also, wouldn’t people start getting suspicious if they walked by the boardwalk again and the same kids were there 5 hours later. I wonder if that ever actually happened. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:48:39 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/02/voices-from-the-classroom-31/#IDComment204468753 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/09/27/voices-from-the-classroom-18/#IDComment201364715 I am really surprised at what happened in the bike stealing video. I am really curious to see what would happen if they were to put a good looking black woman in the place of the white woman or a not so attractive white girl and an attractive black girl. You could do so many things with this experiment. We could determine attractiveness and whether that is a factor. We could also put some Mexican men and women as well as Asian, and compare those results as well. I wonder what would happen. Would they be treated equal to the white guy or the black guy. They should also use the feature when doing the experiment of putting them in similar clothes. I thought that was a good idea because it eliminated the excuse they just looked less harmful because they were dressed nice. Another possible experiment, is body types would a more robust person be likely to get help. Not to mention, a handicapped person but not steal a bike this time since it wouldn’t make very much sense. Anyways, are people more inclined to help them, if they are then the excuse the man used for helping the woman steal the bike he knew she was trying to steal could suffice, and show that maybe men really do just have a helpful side. In that, they would be willing to help a handicapped guy steal something. At first, when we first started watching the video I did not think that there would be discrimination. I have to say that the most surprising part was when the men actually helped the woman steel the bikes. I am not exactly sure why that is. Is it because they feel the need to help the woman who is defenseless and weak, but then why would they help her steal something? If I saw an attractive guy, I don’t think I would help them steal something unless I was desperate. I feel like if I were one of those people going by the person trying to steal the bike; if it was a man I would first think about if they were actually stealing the bike or if they forgot their key, but if they said do you know whose bike this is I would just walk by because I would be nervous that they were armed or more powerful than I am, but if it was a woman I would most likely tell someone else walking by and say do you think they are stealing that and then maybe get them to call someone. I personally, don’t think that stealing a bike constitutes calling 911. I feel that 911 is in action for more serious issues like if someone was run over by a car or shot; besides, I have had something stolen from me before in the past and the police did not do anything about it. So, I really do not see the point in calling them. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:29:32 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/09/27/voices-from-the-classroom-18/#IDComment201364715