en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/4313144 Comments by MartinRidens http://visiontoamerica.org/8764/what-now-for-republicans/#IDComment319077169 The big question is what will you do when when a republican president orders the silencing and internment of American citizens and the killing of any who resist? They will have very good reasons, you can be sure. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:35:18 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8764/what-now-for-republicans/#IDComment319077169 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319072620 Not touche', simply proving my point again. Thanks. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:24:41 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319072620 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319041669 The guy who created that Americans Elect organization, Peter Ackerman, is on the board of the CFR. They claim to be non-partisan which is correct because the only thing they care about is whether a big government person gets elected. Much like our republicans and democrats. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:15:55 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319041669 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319031858 Why am I reading this, then? Sun, 18 Mar 2012 16:54:01 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319031858 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319031567 Good government is best described by our Constitution. There was a time many people thought the federal government should do something to stop people from drinking alcohol. It required a constitutional amendment and it turned out to be not such a good solution to the problem. I could care less about Ron Paul and if you ask him he'll also tell you he is not the focus. It's the message. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 16:53:21 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment319031567 http://visiontoamerica.org/8764/what-now-for-republicans/#IDComment318883649 It's only the welfare-state, class warfare socialist portion of communism that began calling themselves progressives, as Raymond pointed out. The totalitarian, aggressive, world-domination portion of communism began calling themselves conservatives. They pass control back and forth with each forwarding their own agenda in their turn but never doing anything to turn back the recent advances of the other side. I would bet my life, and I am, that when all hell does finally break loose it will be the republicans who will be in charge at the time. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 11:05:13 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8764/what-now-for-republicans/#IDComment318883649 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318870552 Sometimes I read a response to the inane propaganda around here phrased so well it brings a tear to my eye. Ron Paul 2012 - The R3volution Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:33:18 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318870552 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318868232 Am I going to have to start posting a link to exactly what Debbie Schlussel said along with the other garbage she spouts every single time you make this attack Jonathan? I noticed the Gingrich campaign picked up on it but that doesn't surprise me. They were mailing out anti-Mormon literature in South Carolina. Oh yeah, you do a lot of that too, don't you? I noticed you stopped using the French revolution line against Ron Paul. It's got to be embarrassing when someone shows where your ideas come from. Why do you even come on these threads with Ron Paul as the subject anyway? Don't you have anything positive you could be doing with your life? Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:27:11 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318868232 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318862624 They won't look at any of the information you gave them and they'll be back tomorrow saying the EXACT same things over and over again. Worse than flaming liberals in my opinion and, man, those people are irritating. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:14:16 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318862624 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318856487 I can forgive most people who don't pay much attention and will simply hang their heads when things start getting real bad with our government. I'm talking real bad like people disappearing and stormtroopers walking the streets. This is the inevitable result of bigger and bigger government. It's the people like you and Jonathan Gartner who I can not forgive. You are the types who are hurling us headlong into tyranny and your own self-righteousness will not let you see it. Like many people I talk to in my church. The left has a lot of self-righteous people too. I used to go to liberal demonstrations just to talk to them and when I see you post I am reminded so much of them. There is no reasoning with a closed mind. Our federal government was chained down by the Constitution for a reason. I'd like to see the poor have a better life and I'd also like to see a stronger morality in society. The problem begins when instead of doing something about these things ourselves some people seek to use the force of government to impose solutions, which never turn out to be very good solutions. I used to ask the liberals when the last time was they gave their last $5 to a beggar or took a homeless person home and fed them. I wonder when the last time was that many of the so-called conservatives on these blogs did something on a personal level to change the things they see as wrong with other people. I often ask people in my church, when self-righteousness creeps into a discussion, why a visible sin is so much worse than a hidden one. We all fall short of the glory and righteousness of God But if the behavior of another person bothers you then you should be the one to do something about it. Jesus healed lepers and showed love to prostitutes and tax collectors, personally. That's how we solve problems in our society, one person at a time, by reaching out and touching them in some way and allowing the love of God to flow through us. Government has no business getting involved because they just screw it up and the illusion gives decent people a reason to not do the hard thing of showing love to those less fortunate. I'll be the first to agree humans haven't been very good at this since the dawn of creation, but the only way to get better at something is to practice. In the short term big government prevents the practice and in the long run the boot of tyranny only gets heavier and heavier. And, BTW, your habit of coming onto every single thread regarding Ron Paul and denigrating and insulting anyone who disagrees with you is not the kind of example I consider worthy of a Christian or a conservative. Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:58:45 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8751/ron-paul-winning-isnt-everything/#IDComment318856487 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment316189006 I really do love you guys. Feel kinda sorry for you, but still love you. Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:08:11 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment316189006 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment316188179 You really need to stop with the Ron Paul and the Articles of Confederation nonsense. Newt's plan adds $7 TRILLION to our national debt. Who's going to pay for his great ideas? Government needs a tight leash and Newt is a ravenous bulldog. Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:06:30 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment316188179 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment315680187 It goes a lot deeper than that. The people who really have the money and really pull the strings do not get mentioned in the news. Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:45:54 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment315680187 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment315679170 Faux News is just as much propagandists as the MSM. Big government, all the time. We have a two faced version of communism being created in this country folks. The left grows the welfare state and the right grows the totalitarian state. Neither side ever does anything to repeal the wrongs perpetrated by the other side. They only seek to increase their own sphere of government power. If you think your liberal friends are clueless and can't see the damage their ideology creates then maybe it's time to look in the mirror and get back to the Constitution. The republicans, as they exist today, are no friends of liberty minded people. Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:44:00 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8702/santorum-says-fox-news-shilling-romney-everyday/#IDComment315679170 http://visiontoamerica.org/8698/oreilly-im-busy-report-obamas-eligibility/#IDComment315675463 O'Reilly has become a self-infatuated windbag, and Faux News is just another shill for big government but they at least give you a choice of what kind of big government you are going to get, Romney or Santorum or Gingrich. Reminds me of the sham we have for elections in November when we again get to decide which kind of big government we want. Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:37:12 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8698/oreilly-im-busy-report-obamas-eligibility/#IDComment315675463 http://visiontoamerica.org/8655/gingrich-romney-probably-weakest-gop-frontrunner-since-1920/#IDComment314056087 Ron Paul 2012 - The R3volution The ONLY wasted vote is the one you have to hold your nose to cast. Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:43:42 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8655/gingrich-romney-probably-weakest-gop-frontrunner-since-1920/#IDComment314056087 http://visiontoamerica.org/8653/exposing-myth-government-eliminates-poverty/#IDComment314051730 Hi Dingbat, The government's "war on drugs" has had similar results. But on the topic, I agree with you wholeheartedly. The vast majority of private charities come from churches. If someone is offended because they don't want to go to a church to help them over a temporary bad patch then I say tough. Let people realize the only real charity comes from a loving heart produced by the grace of a loving God. It would be a good thing, but man, would there ever be a lot of screaming. I say let them scream. Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:35:39 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8653/exposing-myth-government-eliminates-poverty/#IDComment314051730 http://visiontoamerica.org/8637/tancredo-impeachment-proceedings-obama-begin-asap/#IDComment314043706 I copied that quote from the end of the article, but thanks. And thank you for your testimony of faith. Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:19:56 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8637/tancredo-impeachment-proceedings-obama-begin-asap/#IDComment314043706 http://visiontoamerica.org/8637/tancredo-impeachment-proceedings-obama-begin-asap/#IDComment314042975 Most people in this country treat politics like buying laundry detergent. Whoever has the best ads wins. The biggest reason we are in the situation we are in is because the American people have failed to live up to their responsibility in this republic. I don't try and excuse it. It is a reality we should take into consideration. But even among the well informed on both sides there is a tendency to disregard information which doesn't fit into our ideology. It seems many want to believe we are right and they are wrong. The left believes they are right and we are wrong. The problem is the unconstitutional power we have abdicated to the federal government. We are fighting over something which should not exist in the first place. Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:18:34 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8637/tancredo-impeachment-proceedings-obama-begin-asap/#IDComment314042975 http://visiontoamerica.org/8637/tancredo-impeachment-proceedings-obama-begin-asap/#IDComment313672306 I think we should stop demonizing those who voted for Obama. They were fooled just like we were fooled with Bush and are being fooled with Romney. Most democrats aren't simpleminded, they just listen to a different set of lies. Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:38:05 +0000 http://visiontoamerica.org/8637/tancredo-impeachment-proceedings-obama-begin-asap/#IDComment313672306