en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/940545 Comments by Ludvikus http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/23/the-white-house-war-against-israel/#IDComment63663490 You're correct regrading Original Intent. However, we have evolved so that even Atheists and Communists are permitted to subscribe to their belief. Religion has become a private matter - between a Believer (or non-believer) and God. So you can't do anything to me because you don't agree with me regarding me and God. But I'm extremely proud of the United States for having elected as president a man who's of African and non-white descent. Even though I don't agree with him regarding Israel - he really doesn't see that Muslim countries and most Arabs have merely changed their tactics: wars and suicide bombing have proven ineffective against the police and military forces of Israel. So here's another weapon made of "Human flesh": the so-called "right of return" and sex too of course. Turn Israel into an Arab majority. But for this blindness I cannot fault Obama, since too many Jews fail to see the true tactics of Israel's adversaries. But you know, Europe has a substantial amount of Muslims in their midst, and it may not wish to be "Islamacized" - is that why they want the Disputed Territories to be free of Jewish Settlers? Otherwise, Palestinian refugees will have to be Settled in Europe - which has so successfully freed itself of its 6,000,000 Jews. You think the Germans are very happy today about their Muslim Turkish population? You know that France does not wish its women to walk in public with their faces covered. I conceived of Blinding Glasses. Let Muslim men walk in the streets blindfolded - so women could dress as they pleased - especially on very hot days. Why should women be burdened with the need to conceal what nature or God had given them? Instead, let religious men cover their eyes, heaven forbid they might see some nude or naked part of a woman's body who is not their daughter, sister, or mother! Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:16:36 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/23/the-white-house-war-against-israel/#IDComment63663490 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/23/the-white-house-war-against-israel/#IDComment63654049 Again, I must defend President Obama. There are two influential, obviously left-leaning, liberal Jews in the White House. So one cannot blame our first Black president, for what the Liberal wing of the our Jewish establishment is pushing: (1) to make pre-1967 Israel the new "Pale of Settlement," and (2) to create a new Palestinian State "Judenfrie" - 100% free of Jews; it is the World, together with these Liberal Jews (vis a vis the Muslim world) who are practicing Apartheid: "no Jews are to live among Palestinians in their land." Why is this not seen to be what it is, discrimination against Jews. Obama cannot be blamed for listening to his two Jews in his White House who obviously are accepting this situation and advising him. AIPAC is not sufficiently effective, obviously. And how long will it take for the United States to move its Embassy out of Tel Aviv and into Jerusalem, the Capitol of Israel? How about putting said Embassy in East Jerusalem? But maybe that's asking too much, practically speaking. And that's why I'm a Jew who loves "in your face" Bibi. Isn't it obvious why Israelis have re-elected him? The oil producing Muslim world is not ready for Sovereign Western Israel. And most of the other World is too dependent on this oil to do justice by Jews and Israelis, while too many bleeding-hearts Jews are blind to this fact. It's the burden of Jews to convert the world, but also to develop alternate forms of energy. Why did God put so much oil under their deserts? So we Jews wouldn't be spoiled? And on that alleged "illegality" of Settlements analysis. It was "illegal" for Jews to settle in Palestine before 1948 during and after Hitlers murders in Europe while the vast majority of Europe assisted him in the "settlement" of Jews in the Concentration Camps" from which 6,000,000 exited by the "non-existent" ovens. But Israel was created 3 years later by the force of arms of Jews by 1948. And 1967 was when more mandatory Palestine "territory" was liberated from Egypt and Jordan. The boarders of Israel are to be decided at a negotiating table through peace treaties. In the mean time Israel must defend itself against rockets from Gaza while Hamas tries to wage its war against Israel, and Fatah refuses to come to the negotiating table until its pre-conditions on where Israelis and Jews are permitted, or prohibited from living. And one more point. Why aren't we Jews demanding that the World, especially Europe and the United States too, open its doors to Palestinian "refugees"? If we care about Palestinians, we must accept that for some it would be better to live elsewhere rather than Israel or Palestine. Let "displaced" Palestinian have a choice, and an alternative - just like we Jews have had (except, of course, for such as the 6,000,000). I suspect that we Jews may be do not wish to "offend" the world by proposing, or suggesting, that Palestinians live among them. And what about the Arab and Muslim countries? I do not see them welcoming their "brothers" and "sisters." But "Black September" in Jordan, and Kuwait during its Iraqi invasion have taught the Muslim world to love the Palestinian - but at a distance. And all these Palestinians who aren't welcome as even permanent or temporary guests in the "homes" of non-Jews, are expected to exercise 100% their "right of return" to Israel? Regarding the United Nations I think a new International Organization should be formed in which only Constitutional Representative Democracies or Republics are admitted. And the United States should evict the UN from its current facilities in Manhattan - sending it to Europe, perhaps the Hague. And let the US stop funding it, and start funding this New organization of democracies. The idea that Israel is not permitted to sit on the Security Council while all these Dictatorships are, is an abomination. And I propose a solution. Don't abolish the UN - have it compete with an alternative organization which requires a truly, and effective, representative form of government. That of course, would eliminate most of the Muslim states who determinate the "legality" of Israeli actions in accordance with so-called "international law." Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:00:29 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/23/the-white-house-war-against-israel/#IDComment63654049 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/23/the-white-house-war-against-israel/#IDComment63607463 I think this criticism of the White House is too harsh. The difference between Bibi and the Clintons on Israel is a repeat performance: As President Clinton allegedly complained during his presidency, "Who the f**k does he [Bibi] think he is?" That said the issue in historical perspective is much simpler: Israel is not a "Pale of Settlement" to which Jews are to be restricted as they were within the Tsar's Russian Empire, and (2) Jerusalem, East or West, ought not to be maid "Judenfrie" as Hitler had done to Europe during the Third Reich. Why can't there be Jews - not even one - living in a future Palestinian state? It seems that the Clintons fail to appreciate this part of the history of the Jews - but that's an insensitivity that's common to almost all of the world. But it's the fault of the Jewish intelligentsia for failing to make their LIBERAL democratic "goyim" friends understand. In terms of Propaganda, Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims are doing a better job - certainly better than they have on the battlefield where they invented Suicide missions against the Israelis, Jews, Europeans, Americans, and the West in general. A bit more reading of the great historian of Islam, Bernard Lewis, might be helpful. And if there was a "Mistake" in history - the mistake was Hitler, not Israel. Had Europe not produced and nurtured him as the "Leader" of the Civilized Germans, there probably would not have been the Israel that exist today - perhaps Jews would have settled there at a much slower pace, without the "In your face" here's the West in your midst! Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:33:53 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/23/the-white-house-war-against-israel/#IDComment63607463