en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/4309606 Comments by everybodyneedsagun http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364110469 Paranoia. You're not living in an African nation run by a junta. As far as I know, the Canadians haven't gone apoplectic over restrictions but I'm sure the NRA would threaten to take down the government if they threatened to confiscate large caliber weapons. The NRA is right to use fear to motivate their constituents. It's what all dictators use to keep power. Mon, 21 May 2012 02:45:19 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364110469 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364065533 A horrible circumstance and all involved should have received lengthy sentences and plenty of scrutiny on release. But this is an isolated case that I could counter by pointing at all the people who play for the Seattle Symphony orchestra and claim that they're all safe and unmolested. Tuba Man spent his life on the streets and did fine for years and years. It took a few brainless idiots to end his life. You can't say that's a normal event in Seattle. By the way, did they use a gun? No, they beat him to death from what I recall. Mon, 21 May 2012 01:03:09 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364065533 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364061049 Some form of feedback loop so people who have been involved in domestic disputes, those who require psychoactive drugs to maintain a grip, those who've been convicted of violent crimes but not felonies, etc. cannot get their hands on firearms. Close the gun show loophole where a private seller can sell to a private buyer without doing paperwork and registering the identity of the buyer and the gun. More voluntary buy back programs for people who want to get rid of firearms. Not to put them back into circulation but to destroy them. License people to own a maximum number of firearms. No one needs an arsenal for personal use. That way if someone gets ripped off, it doesn't help make cheap firearms available. I'm sure there's tons of reasonable measures that could be taken to help. Mon, 21 May 2012 00:51:35 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364061049 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364057267 You must have a sense of humor. Pardon me for saying so but I don't think you're the best suited to say whether your arguments are "more articulate." I find them full of faulty logic that doesn't pass the smell test. When you come from a neighborhood where crime is part of life and status quo, your options are limited. Sometimes joining "Outlaw culture" is the safest path, since along with the danger, it also provides safety. This is part of any poverty-stricken inner city which lacks opportunity, employment or resources. That would have you assigning guilt to a giant swath of people who have no hand or say in the matter. But that won't stop bumper sticker geniuses from painting that population with a giant brush, as we see every day here in the Komo comments section. I suppose you can join Nancy Reagan and assume that these kids can "just say no" but it never proved successful or even remotely realistic. States who eschew birth control have the highest rate of teen pregnancy. This is the logic of the modern conservative. Just say no. Mon, 21 May 2012 00:41:45 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364057267 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Woman-in-hot-pink-duct-tape-attacks-injures-3-cops-152214775.html#IDComment364033101 Seems like a half-naked woman might appreciate being tazed rather than shot. Sun, 20 May 2012 23:35:17 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Woman-in-hot-pink-duct-tape-attacks-injures-3-cops-152214775.html#IDComment364033101 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364028755 Likely so, but that's because they're being produced in mass quantities and somehow making it to the street, cheap. Sun, 20 May 2012 23:23:06 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364028755 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364028034 All depends on your perspective. You're welcome to your opinion but it seems pretty dire. On the bat beating, that wasn't a robbery. Nothing was taken. There was obviously bad blood between the store owner and the guys who came to beat on him. Sun, 20 May 2012 23:20:50 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364028034 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364027382 I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to inept1. Sun, 20 May 2012 23:18:48 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364027382 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364026895 No one who speaks against guns wants to ban them. But anyone who brings up gun control immediately is branded as a left wing nut who wants to take their guns. How is there a reasonable conversation to be had when everyone is marginalized? You want to paint me as a Europe-lovin' liberal and I want to paint you as an uneducated, war-loving vigilante. Meanwhile, people are dying every day, facilitated by rampant availability of weapons and ammo to the criminal and the criminally insane. Sun, 20 May 2012 23:17:08 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment364026895 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363948103 Your argument doesn't speak to the basic truth that the gun is designed a built to kill things whereas the car is designed to transport people. Comparing gun deaths to car deaths has no correlation but it doesn't stop the gun crowd from making the comparison, as if it held any weight for people with an IQ above 100. It doesn't but it sure makes sense for those stupid enough to be swayed by ill-conceived, dubious associations. I've owned guns and shot guns and decided I didn't want them in the house once we had kids. I use my brain to keep my wife and kids safe. The chances of a gun keeping me safe are remote unless I'm carrying and carrying is responsibility that I don't care to assume in my daily life. Tell me, what percentage of the population who own guns are present or former LEOs, military or security personnel? Do you know? How many anti-gun people are present or former LEOs, military or security personnel? Do you know? Methinks you're talking from a dark hole. Sun, 20 May 2012 20:26:15 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363948103 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Woman-in-hot-pink-duct-tape-attacks-injures-3-cops-152214775.html#IDComment363941466 I'll bet you would. Can you imagine the spike in traffic to Komo? Better than a bloody shooting! Sun, 20 May 2012 20:16:06 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Woman-in-hot-pink-duct-tape-attacks-injures-3-cops-152214775.html#IDComment363941466 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363939105 With 4.5 million guns being sold in the US per anum, I don't think it's going to be anytime soon. More likely to get worse before it gets better. Sun, 20 May 2012 20:12:25 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363939105 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363938147 You keep livin' that fantasy. The only realistic part is McKenna being competitive with Insley. Sun, 20 May 2012 20:11:11 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363938147 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363934921 He's alive. Notice any difference there? Most altercations with guns end in a fatality, as we see on a nearly daily basis. I'm all for giving people bats instead of guns. Sun, 20 May 2012 20:06:06 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363934921 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363934310 The only difference between you and the guy who killed and then raped his roomate is that he's insane. How are we to know the difference and should we just turn a blind eye to it? Sun, 20 May 2012 20:04:32 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363934310 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363933774 Black or white, eh? No sensible way to monitor gun ownership? Baloney. You people amaze me. Sun, 20 May 2012 20:03:11 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363933774 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363932967 Thank you. People can lawfully own guns while completely insane and the NRA will protect their 2nd amendment rights. If the government knows and monitors your guns, it means that someday they're going to take them away. As if we live in the Soviet Union or there's any historical precedent in America that the government is likely to take people's weapons away. Loons who've been brainwashed by the NRA, the rest of us left to deal with the consequences of stupidity and greed. Sun, 20 May 2012 20:01:15 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363932967 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363931179 Are you comparing pointing a car at someone while drunk with the intent to kill them with with pointing a gun at someone while drunk? Does the drunk driver intend to kill or does he just not give a dam about others? That's negligence and probably comparable to someone who leaves guns loaded and unsecured around the house with kids there. Please cite an equivalent circumstance with pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger to car crashes. You think most of those deaths from car accidents were people trying to harm others? Nothing whatsoever to do with one another, not a comparable events but but that doesn't stop dim bulbs from using the argument. Amazing. Sun, 20 May 2012 19:57:03 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363931179 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363928437 Of the car deaths you cite, how many of those people pointed their cars at someone with the intent to kill them? It astounds me that people are swayed by the dumbest arguments if it supports their cause. Try again. Sun, 20 May 2012 19:50:20 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363928437 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363887646 Thanks for the clarification. Sun, 20 May 2012 18:13:48 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-car-wash-152208045.html?clmob=y#IDComment363887646