“Listen to the cry of a woman in labor at the hour of giving birth — look at the dying man’s struggle at his last extremity, and then tell me whether something that begins and ends thus could be for enjoyment” i.e. whether it could be Heaven.
The quote is from Kierkegaard.

Barr was raised in a Jewish family and was active in the Mormon Church. Here are some sourced quotes from Wikipedia:

"In a 1991 interview with People, Roseanne revealed herself to be an "incest survivor", accusing both of her parents of physical and sexual abuse,[72] claims which they and Geraldine publicly denied.[73] Melvin Belli, her parents' lawyer, said that they had passed a lie detector test "with flying colors".[73] ....She added that not everything was "made up", saying, "Nobody accuses their parents of abusing them without justification".....In the mid-1990s Barr had multiple cosmetic surgeries performed, such as a breast reduction, tummy tuck, and a nose job.[78] During the late 1990s she had gastric bypass surgery.[28]

In 2002, Barr met Johnny Argent online after running a writing competition on her blog and began dating him in 2003, after a year of phone conversations.[78][77] They live on a 46-acre macadamia nut farm located on the Big Island of Hawaii. Barr purchased the property in 2007 for $1.78 million.[79] Barr has studied Kabbalah at the Kabbalah Centre and frequently comments on the discipline"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne_%28TV_actre...

Have you read Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze, the economic review of the Third Reich? It's waiting on my bookshelf, I haven't read it yet, but it's an essential reading for anyone who would teach about the Nazi economy.

About Libya: In his speech to the Libyan parliament in 2009, Qaddafi said “The Administration has failed and the state’s economy has failed. Enough is enough. The solution is for the Libyan people to directly receive oil revenues and decide what to do with them,” - this was said in a speech broadcast on state television. To this end, the Libyan leader urged a radical reform of government bureaucracy.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/in-2009-gaddafi-propo...

To be sure, I'm not anti-state, I'm not saying we should give up states completely.

Canspeccy (not me): The New World Order is the objective of a fascist movement for global empire.
To understand what the New World Order is to be, one must understand the term Fascism, which is used as widely as it is misunderstood. In particular, it is usually conflated with National Socialism or Nazism from which it differs in fundamental ways.

To Benito Mussolini, who created and led Italy's National Fascist Party, fascism meant absolute control of the nation by the state, which in turn was controlled by the will of a single individual,the dictator......The present-day conflation of Fascism with Nazism is surely not accidental as it serves to mask the fascist character of the globalist imperative..... Thus, the objective is not the superiority of one nation over all others*, but the destruction of all nations and the subordination of all peoples to the control of an undemocratic system of global governance. This is not National Socialism or Nazism but anti-nationalism, and closely akin to Soviet Communism except in its collaboration with, rather than destruction of, the money power, which is what makes it distinctively fascist."
Cited from here: http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2012/05/facist-new-...

Hi Deadbeat. My knowledge of fascist Italy is not so sound to be able to tell the actual degree of its nationalism, and what role it actually played. (I can't rely on conventional historical outlines, of course, they are full of propaganda.)

Do you suppose he does it in full awareness of what he is doing?

Abaddon, the most troublesome aspect of preparing for a civil war is securing your side is more than feebly connected groups of friends and families. As Tarpley said in the Kokesh interview, such guerillas stand no chance against what is now available to the District of Columbia (drones & all), - the solution is ultimately in political organising. Regardless of whether it will take years or decades, or even longer.

There is no coherent opposition or movement at the moment.

The state prepares for civil unrest, and *prevention* of full-blown civil war.

Deadbeat, maybe you can clarify this to me: If Jews are a powerful supremacist group who tend to take their own ethnic myth very seriously, and if someone busts that myth (spelling out the political implications) in the middle of Tel Aviv,
- why wouldn't he get harassed? Online search shows zero cases of harassment of Shlomo Sand.
- why would his book become a bestseller in Israel and gain solid publicity in the West?

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Abaddon,

- Judging by the State Department's & Foreign Office attitudes outlined in the article, these 'state entities' would have certainly not acted "in pretty much the same way" - not in the Middle East.

- Compare the current Washington hostility toward Cuba, Venezuela and Ecuador on one hand, and toward Syria, Pakistan, Iran, Afghan's Northern Alliance on the other. Look at the record of recent military interventions in Latin America vis-a-vis the Israeli neighbourhood.

- Compare the conditions in Nicaragua, Honduras and Chile, with the conditions in Iraq, Egypt, Libya.

Their differences clearly point to the great extent of 'Zionist' influence.