en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/711849 Comments by Kemberly http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/11/too-many-hoops-to-jump-through-pre-marital-counseling-ellen-and-gay-dudes.html#IDComment43272382 I certainly don't know how to begin to answer to these questions. However, I posted this quote from a T.D. Jakes book that I'm reading "Before You Do" on my facebook about a week or so ago, because this is one of a few real definitions of what I feel a church should be: "Church is not a museum for perfect people, but rather a hospital where injured souls unite to recover. I think it applies to the "hoops" mentioned here. Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:02:57 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/11/too-many-hoops-to-jump-through-pre-marital-counseling-ellen-and-gay-dudes.html#IDComment43272382