en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/764938 Comments by KFortt https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment69505908 Okay this is the situation. This is an obvious observation in this situation. On September 11, 2001, 3,000 plus honest Americans were killed in the tragic crash of the twin towers. The majority of the people working in these building were white Americans or middle to high –class minority people. But when something 10time more disastrous happens like Katrina where the majority where African American people; people just don’t give two shits about it. Really? It’s not like people died instantly and there was nothing anyone can do; people sat there for weeks and suffered with no food, water, or support from our groups. The Haiti earthquake is just another example of black people that people do not care about. I bet if this earthquake resulted in 300,000 Jewish people; everyone would so drastically depressed about and there would be so much more support than there is now. But since 300,000 pure charcoal –skinned black people died people say “Oh wow, that’s sad. Not my life” and keeping moving on without it being a thought. So No it does not make you a bad person that u mourn or feel worse that 1 person you personally know somebody close to. Haiti did not impact us in that sort of way, as losing a family member or friend so it is easy to almost forget about it or not think about how awful is still really is. Things stop in countries it’s directed at so it makes everyone else pay attention and help out, but the world didn't stop when that happened, US business did not close like many did on September 11. Even though many people want to help, there are just no way can we. If you were a concerned citizen and you went to your boss and said I need time off to go help Haiti I guarantee you would be fired. So, since that cannot happen, many people have no other alternative so they just act like they forget about it and people get upset that no one wants to help when that is not really the case. , so it is easy to not keep it at the forefront of our minds all the time. For people who have been to Haiti after the earthquake, it is a life changing experience and they are willing to do whatever they can to help. For the majority of people though, it is a tragic thing that happened… and then we move on and go about our day. Just like in New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina was a terrible natural disaster, Rarely if ever, they say, has a natural disaster so ravaged the crowded capital of an already poor country, devastating both the government and the international agencies that usually step in. For weeks, relief came in the form of food giveaways that resembled a Darwinian sport with biscuits and bottles of canola oil or biscuits thrown like footballs from the backs of trucks to masses of men jockeying for position. Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:47:52 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment69505908 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68470409 Yea some people on here are dilarious. Sam is not saying that all christians are tryiny to force their reilgion on others. He is just saying when they go over to iraq; their orders are to froce christianity on them. This war is also just judging a book by its cover and propoganda. In America when we hear the words ' Middle East' or ' Arab Countries' we scurry away and do not want to associate, hear, or even visit those places. The proceptions of middle east countries, muslims, and arabians is totally blown out of proportion. We look at them as if they were people who were reckless and relentless. We think every person over there as a weapon and wants to hurt us. That is problem, over in the middle east it is small select group that want to kill Americans. and usually even they think of us as inferior people. If I were them I would obviously hate us because they are coming over to our country , not to be friendly or make relations, but just to get our resources. They are putting on a front that they are so nice while giving us candy and food, and carrying our children around but yet you guys carry around guns and shoot are loved ones. I have always been opposed to the war in Iraq and any war that is strictly about taking a good from another country that is not rightfully ours, but I had never really put myself in the place of the people actually living in Iraq and how they must feel about the situation. I also heard a lot of new clips from politicians that I had never heard before. And showing that clip from Jesus Camp terrified me, as that film has each time I had seen it. I had never put myself in the place of an Arab Muslim looking at Americans, and the result was very interesting. It just allowed me to totally look at America in way I never had before. They really are not bad, nor evil people they are just fighting for what they believe in and trying to protect their families and their rights to their own land. Its hard to think in the same way that they are evil when you put yourself in their shoes and see what we are doing, us, the Christian Invaders who have come to steal their resources. Our country just needs to put it together and realize that we are doing more damage than good. Just like I said when I was in debate class in 7th grade. George Bush needed to find a more efficient energy supply other than resources that we have to consistently fighting for and losing innocent American for. Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:38:38 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68470409 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68470499 Yea some people on here are dilarious. Sam is not saying that all christians are tryiny to force their reilgion on others. He is just saying when they go over to iraq; their orders are to froce christianity on them. This war is also just judging a book by its cover and propoganda. In America when we hear the words ' Middle East' or ' Arab Countries' we scurry away and do not want to associate, hear, or even visit those places. The proceptions of middle east countries, muslims, and arabians is totally blown out of proportion. We look at them as if they were people who were reckless and relentless. We think every person over there as a weapon and wants to hurt us. That is problem, over in the middle east it is small select group that want to kill Americans. and usually even they think of us as inferior people. If I were them I would obviously hate us because they are coming over to our country , not to be friendly or make relations, but just to get our resources. They are putting on a front that they are so nice while giving us candy and food, and carrying our children around but yet you guys carry around guns and shoot are loved ones. I have always been opposed to the war in Iraq and any war that is strictly about taking a good from another country that is not rightfully ours, but I had never really put myself in the place of the people actually living in Iraq and how they must feel about the situation. I also heard a lot of new clips from politicians that I had never heard before. And showing that clip from Jesus Camp terrified me, as that film has each time I had seen it. I had never put myself in the place of an Arab Muslim looking at Americans, and the result was very interesting. It just allowed me to totally look at America in way I never had before. They really are not bad, nor evil people they are just fighting for what they believe in and trying to protect their families and their rights to their own land. Its hard to think in the same way that they are evil when you put yourself in their shoes and see what we are doing, us, the Christian Invaders who have come to steal their resources. Our country just needs to put it together and realize that we are doing more damage than good. Just like I said when I was in debate class in 7th grade. George Bush needed to find a more efficient energy supply other than resources that we have to consistently fighting for and losing innocent American for. Sat, 17 Apr 2010 03:38:38 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68470499 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment67362373 Yea for me. I"m really am not a fan of this game like really.. why would make a game of this sort out of all the different categories in the world. One this game is really stupid and ignorant. two this would probably only go out to people that would actually want to rape girls and are sick. This game can also be puttinn up a stereotype that all asian women are easy and whores so thats why it is easy to rape them. Also cause the fact that in china women have no say on anything. but like one guy said this game is not in america. It is being sold in China' so why are we so hyped on it". America is always getting into others business and not focusing on our own. Anyway just like all of these real life game like Call of Duty and war games that resemble actual historic events. It would be perfectly fine for the japanese to make a game of the Battle of Pearl Harbour with a level where you have fly all 10 of your planes into a the destroyer boat. So when we come out with games like Grand theft auto which resembles americas problems and look a like then china can come out with something that often goes on in their country. There has been much uproar about the video games in the U.S., but after viewing this video it is clear to see that these types of games have been around for a longer amount of time then some of the graphic video games in the U.S. I also think that this may say a little something about the Japanese people and culture. For years, these games have been on the market where people have routinely bought and sold these video games from the market and have condoned the actions of these video games. I am firmly against the actions and depictions of these video games, but I would like to see if rape and violent acts have gone up in the Japanese society. There are many studies and research that has been done to report the negative effects of video games on individuals’ behavior. This would serve as a perfect test and experiment. The only reason we are just now finding out about these games is because of the internet and the enhancement of globalization. So all in all I think that this game is full of it and it really should be taken of the market if it actually reached the U.S cause this is really like having a game where you can kill all jewish people or enslave all black people. I hope this is not what are country has come to! Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:30:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment67362373 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/how-can-we-ever-win__trashed/#IDComment65100118 I wasn't offended at all about the LLBean Catalog. I come from very productive and successful family so basically when Sam questioned if those were fake black people I would say know your just stereotyping black/brown people as ignorant people that live in filth and poverty which is totally not true. My father is an actor/firefighter and my mother is owns her own medical practice so that picture would totally resemble my family. Just because there is picture of a black/brown family relaxing and enjoying a vacation doesn't mean that they are being fake. As for the comment about them being by a pond, I actually do not even get the joke about how black/brown people can’t swim. I am lifeguard in my town and my whole family can swim. I never knew that just because the color of your skin depicts what extracurricular activity you can accomplish. Wow people are weird. It is kind of funny because when they do not include black or brown people every one gets all worked up on how society only thinks white people are they definition of beauty or good fashion. But when they have black or brown people in regular magazine people complain that they are making the photos seem so fake. So basically you’re just trying to say that the stereotyping is correct if you’re saying that the photos are of fake black people. But on the other hand people complain that people should not stereotype against others because most of the time it is not true. People are very decisive and contradicting. America is really funny when it comes to race relations. So I also do not understand why this student felt so offended by Sam's lecture in class on Tuesday. I have actually learned a lot and have put many of things into perspective. He has answered various personal questions that I have always wanted to figure out because it was just so confusing. Remember, nothing is really offensive. Whatever you find offensive is offensive to you because truthfully people just find things offensive when others say something that everyone knows is true but never says it out loud. Sam basically puts all of our minds together and fixes them because on our own we would be to self conscious about things to speak up and sort things out. I am actually doing an essay on this topic for my English and I basically stated that there should be more community workshops where different ethnic groups get together and learn not about each other, just about the natural human being and how ever one is actually morally equal and we have to learn how to accept that fact that people come from all over but like Sam said 99.9 percent of our genome is the same as everyone on this earth but that .01 percent is different and that .901 percent is out physical appearance. It is very deep if you think about it a lot. Thu, 1 Apr 2010 00:46:27 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/how-can-we-ever-win__trashed/#IDComment65100118 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64288311 I don’t find this hard to believe at all. This has been implemented through society, television, Ads, movies, and magazines. Alright so listen; it has been a perception that everything that is white is good because you can see it or whatever. I actually don’t even think that it has anything to do with reason to be honest. When you think of things from movies and books that speak about evil, they always show something dark. I don’t think there was ever a movie in history that showed a horror movie that consisted of something evil in dark outside in the broad daylight killing people. The persona is that everything that is really dark is bad. So the black cat is a sign of evilness. Dark shadows are sign of evilness. So when it comes to society everyone is scared of everything dark that they cannot see or identify. When white people see people of a darker tone, the more inferior they get towards that group. Someone would be more afraid of a dark –toned guy than guy with reddish caramel color just because of the whole society issue thing. Especially at night; white people would see a group of black kids and automatically think that they would get beat up or robbed because of the media, the movies, and TV. that make black people seem wild, viscous and crazy. I am sorry but I believe white people are crazier than black people. So after this has been implemented through the years, it has been an automatic thing. Little brown/black children automatically think that the black doll is bad JUST because of its color and the white doll seems more innocent and good. Just like Sam said; most of the black/brown people in American are middle class but cartoons and comics just joke on the stereotypes and that is what is implemented into young children’s mind ( like that’s how your people are supposed to act). The other thing I hate which is really frustrating. A lot of the pop artist disguises themselves as badass people that came straight from hardcore ghetto with no father in their lives. When in actuality, those same artists came from suburban areas where their parents were middle –class people, went to good educated schools, and had….. With all this said, this is a shame that this video shows that it is being instilled in these kids brains at such a young age that their people are bad people. It was also shocking to see when the girl asked “Which doll looks like you? .. The little girl acted as if she was ashamed of the doll and actually was kind of embarrassed to say that the black resembled her. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:04:32 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64288311 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63088122 . Don’t you think it would’ve been a lot fairer to exclaim that whoever wanted the job HAD to speak fluent English? “So why couldn't the state require that these crew members speak English?” and you know what they said. “The state doesn't have a clear answer.” Be fair to your fellow American. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:30:52 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63088122 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63088084 People will face a lot of difficulty, when they learn a language that is not his first language. One of the big obstacles is that there is a culture gap that makes the language is even more difficult to learn. "I think the (rule) is good, because that's for safety purpose," said Manuel Franco, who is a contractor for fire crews. How is that’s fair to the Officers and Deputy Chiefs that have been on the job for a while. You can’t just kick them because they don’t know the language of a person who was just hired. This doesn’t even make sense. I’m not saying that is bad to learn other language because I actually really think that exploring new cultures and learning different language broadens your mind and ability to think and communicate. I’m just saying that if it wasn’t a previous requirement to learn Spanish, then why is it now. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:30:33 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63088084 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63088048 This Post is directed towards the video: Oregon Firefighters fired for Speaking English – I’m not sure where this video went because I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Ok this is my theory, whether it’s right or wrong: this is America where the predominately used language is English. The people that are civilized this country were English people so why now after 100’s of year do you decide to take the side of foreign people and punish the Americans. I’m not saying that foreign people should be excluded from the regular American populations but don’t (at first) criticized foreign people for coming to the state but later on, bash down on English speaking Americans for not knowing a foreign person language. That is totally unethical. If we were in their country I’d bet that the owners of companies would not fire their employees because they do not know their co-workers language. That is just ridiculous. I believe if you took the effort to get everything in order to make it to this country, you should at least be considerate and respectful enough to learn the common language of the country. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:30:13 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63088048 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-two__trashed/#IDComment58572697 Alright, basically Sam is saying that we should feel more sympathetic more than bad for what we've done. We, individually, have not done anything that has inclined to the reservations of the Native American. Actually, Caucasian people should feel more sympathetic towards Native Americans because it was their ancestors that took over their land, took all of their techniques, and stole all of their goods. I understand where this guy is coming from by saying that his people shouldn't feel bad for Native Americans but i still believe that who ever comes onto this land should at least respect the fact that the indigenous people that owned this land. Don't say " Forget them, Not my life", because that is just being a selfish being. My grandmother is Apache native american so she always telling me how American people do not respect their land or them. They were the first people here but yet, now, they are the poorest ethnic group in America which is really sad to say. That is basically like you owning restaurant and a group of people come in and take it over and make you the night-shift janitor for it. Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:15:37 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-two__trashed/#IDComment58572697 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/avatar-and-the-white-mans-burden__trashed/#IDComment55263622 Okay, this writer is totally right but this has been going on in a lot of movies. This is definitely not the first time this has happened. The first stereotype in movies is that African American people are too alert to make things interesting and will make a movie short. Also, is that black people are never take the chance of being curious and noisy about things so they will always fail to know what would have really happened if they took that chance. This is why in horror movies, most of the time Caucasian people are usually the characters to make the scene and keep the story line going and since the stereotypes for blacks in horror or adventure movies are that they would make it boring, black people usually die first. I will give a couple of example that will contently prove my point. One good movie that I thought was great was "Jeepers Creepers ". In the beginning of the movie, a brother and sister are driving along a long dry western road traveling home. As they are cruising along they pass an beat down farm house with a sort-of dungeon place next to it where a figure with dark capes, a black mask, and black cap throws a heavy object that may look like a body bag into the dungeon. So wait, pause; in reality, no matter what ethnicity someone is, if anyone see that the following things would come to mind: 1) I am on a foreign road, out somewhere in the west where there is no means of emergency communication 2) i have just seen a creepy guy throw a body bag into a dark hole. But since everything is so stereotypical on how black people can run, they always run away from things, and how they are always paranoid about being caught; black people could not play the role of the people that actually turn around and inspect what the whole " body in the hole" was about. So all in all, the too Caucasian kids were basically ran off the road by the creepy guy who saw them pass by so they then decide to go back to the farm to ask for help but being noisy end up checking out the dark old dungeon where the bodies are put at and that is the ignition to the whole movie. Basically I am saying that since the stereotypes have been like this for a long time, the movies have incorporated this into them and now since they are so used to it, every adventure or horror/action movie has a Caucasian person being the main hero and savior for everything. Thu, 4 Feb 2010 01:20:07 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/avatar-and-the-white-mans-burden__trashed/#IDComment55263622 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/last-name-begins-with-f__trashed/#IDComment55254664 yeah Wed, 3 Feb 2010 23:52:05 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/last-name-begins-with-f__trashed/#IDComment55254664 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/i-guess-it-pays-to-learn-a-bit-about-other-people__trashed/#IDComment54293550 This is the ignorance that truly goes around. Sure it may have been a misunderstanding situation but people have to learn to respect other religions, rituals, and cultures. They just made a whole 2 ton plane land on an emergency landing notice all because of the lack of knowledge this one flight attendant had. It seems like I am taking the side of the kid but I am not at all. I am just telling the truth of the matter that what goes on in this country is so materialistic and lacks significance. People pay so much attention to what is going on in the television world or what is being advertised to the public’ they dare to realize the importance of basic things such as “Knowing who they are as a person”. But in today’s world, it’s hard to overcome everything when everyone is doing the exact opposite. So this occasion was just a mere miscommunication which turned into a big dilemma. No one is really wrong in this situation because If I were sitting across from a kid on an airplane who was wrapping black cords around himself and praying, I would be pretty frightened myself; actually probably would’ve been a little more assertive to ask him what he was doing. Americans would especially react to this because of what happened on September 11, 2001. That was a major misfortune and that really hurt our country which is why every chance we get to get explanation or full comprehension of anything we will; just a normal human reaction to previous catastrophe; cautiousness Also sometimes, the media boosts everyone awareness skills to a new level. The media can put on the front that the worst thing in American has just happened and then over time never let you forget what happened. This is very unhealthy because it makes people overly paranoid and gets them too paranoid of even being an American citizen and society. I will add that it has a part on the kid that was wrong. Being an American you would know what people to react to, how people will react, and what the ramifications are. So it seems like he was clueless about the incident which he should have been more aware of. Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:08:01 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/i-guess-it-pays-to-learn-a-bit-about-other-people__trashed/#IDComment54293550