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5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 1 reply · +1 points

Here's some clarity for you ... http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-19/video-emerges-...

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 1 reply · +1 points

Your comment suggested that we should take decisions on the basis of what the Italians might decide. Re-read it and check for yourself!

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Why an inquiry into th... · 0 replies · +1 points

Snowflakes? Poor seconds? That's contempt for people, not lifestyles.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Why an inquiry into th... · 0 replies · +1 points

That would not apply to you, though, would it?

I'd be rather wary of people who claimed they were first-rate telling others that they were second-rate. It smacks too much of blind arrogance and elitism.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Why an inquiry into th... · 1 reply · +1 points

Your apparent contempt for fellow British citizens is not pretty. Not pretty at all.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 3 replies · +1 points

Do you want the Italians to decide whether we should Brexit or not?

Wouldn't that be the ultimate in giving away our sovereignty?

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 1 reply · +1 points

The EU simply is not going to become a federal super-state. Because the political direction of the EU is controlled by the elected heads of the governments of its member states, and none of the voter populations in its member states want that. Simples.

Your thoughts about the Euro and Schengen are very anti-democratic!

Joining the Euro would be a bit of a wrench for the Euro and well as for the Pound. The risks would not be worth it unless they had been minimized, and part of that would require keenness on the part of the British people as a whole. If that keenness ever evolves then of course it will be right for us to join the Euro.

Joining Schengen really isn't a big deal. It's more about appearances than reality. Again, it would not be possible without voters' consent, and if British voters do give consent, then it will be what we should do.

Our present position is that "parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU". You can check by Googling that phrase and checking out who wrote it.

In summary, your anti-democratic desire to prevent future voters from choosing to join the Euro or to join Schengen is effectively a desire to remove sovereignty from them. That's not nice at all.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 0 replies · +1 points

That's not correct. They have a different point of political view to you, that's all. And if you were a true Brit, you wouldn't be trying to emulate McCarthyist America.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 3 replies · +1 points

In my view the more likely outcome is that more and more young people will feel disappointed with Brexit, not only because we won't be getting any effective control back, and not only because we will have lost our share of control of our continent, but also because of the lost working opportunities and lost incomes that they will experience.

How fast that will happen is more difficult to guess. The UK government will increase borrowing to offset the I'm mediate economic problems of Brexit, and may do this off-balance sheet by increasing things like PFI, and it may sell crown assets or future market rights. But sooner or later, maybe 5 to 10 years, crunch time will be here, the debts will need paying and the rights will be exercised, and that won't please anyone.

All in all, it's just sensible to avoid that kind of future, by finding a democratic process by which Brexit can be cancelled now.

5 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Nicky Morgan: How Parl... · 10 replies · +1 points

It's certainly not a nice thought, agreed, but it's the brutal truth.

There was a strong correlation between age and vote, with older people more likely to support Leave and younger in favour of Remain. The likelihood seems to be that those preferences won't change as people get older, so with time this country will have a population that wants to be in the EU and a political class that took it out. That's not a good omen. https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/03/24/eu-referendu...

How fast will this hapen? Well,about 800,000 mainly older people die in the UK everh year, and about manly younger people 800,000 come onto the electoral register. The 1.3 million majority in 2016, which could be reversed if 650,000 Leave voters switch to Remain. So yes, in principle the change could happen within a year, and certainly within the nearly three years between the 2016 referendum and the official Brexit leave date.

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