en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/284525 Comments by JnC http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394941971 Not at all, and I am sorry! It's that I continue to see these types of comments, that have nothing to do with the actual story or the debate. Either for or against. So, again, I apologize. I didn't mean to be rude. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 18:25:34 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394941971 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394931180 As I said, I totally see your point, but you are not seeing mine. The "should" or "what ifs" do not apply to this. The government IS involved with marriage. So, having a comment about what the government should do, or what if they weren't involved in marriage doesn't come in to play with this topic. That issue is not up for a vote. So yes, this comment is off topic. That is the only point I am trying to make. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 18:06:27 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394931180 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394899620 I never said anything remotely like that. I haven't been to a gay pride parade in over 10 years, mainly because I don't like the fact that society only sees us like "that" I don't agree with the naked bike riders either, but I would never call them "freaks"! Thats the problem with your post. Calling people freaks, when they are just different than you Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:10:57 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394899620 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394891200 I totally see your point, but let me ask you this one question.... Is the government involved with marriage? Its just a yes or no question. No what ifs, no it should be this way. Plain and simple. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 16:56:08 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394891200 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394602800 Yeah for you!!! You don't care!!! However, much of society does care and being gay is still taboo! Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:35:52 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394602800 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394600292 Freaks??? All gay people at Gay Pride parades are freaks? Sure, there are some that stand out over the rest, but to call them freaks is quite rude. Why dont you reach out to some of the gay people in the parade and actually get to know them. You may find that they are just like every day people. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:30:07 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394600292 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394598477 Chickygirl is 100% correct. Should gay people have to stand up to the world and announce that we are gay? Of course not, just as you shouldn't have to. But, in today's world, its just the way it is. While I applaud you and your way of thinking, the rest of the world has not caught up to you. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:26:40 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/entertainment/Anderson-Cooper-The-fact-is-Im-gay-161084475.html#IDComment394598477 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394596005 I completely agree with your statement above. I am a gay Christian and understand the frustration! Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:21:17 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394596005 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394585080 States will continue to do what they think their citizens want, regardless of the constitution. It is up to the Supreme Court to protect the constitution, which is what they have done. Why they havent changed the constitution? I dont know why. Maybe because they give us more credit than what we should have. And you do realize that this issue is already going to the Supreme Court? Just not fast enough in my opinion! Also, marriage is not by its definition about religion and the states nor the government view it as such. Do people view it as a religious ceremony, yes...do the states or government see it as such? No. So, no....you should not have the right to vote on civil rights. This is not a religious issue, this is not a moral issue, this is a plain and simple civil rights issue. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:57:42 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394585080 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394578554 Allowing homosexuals to marry is going to allow destruction of the culture/society? Crap, planning a wedding is tough enough!! Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:43:03 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394578554 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394567262 Can you please give us the links to these studies so we can all see them. I have seen the studies that Allronix talks about, so I don't need to see those. And, since I have been raped by two "straight" men in my life and have many gay friends who have never molested or raped anyone, I would truly love to see this data. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:18:28 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394567262 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394565802 There are truly many serious problems facing us in this state and country. Not arguing with you there. However, just because this isn't an issue for you doesn't mean its not an issue for others. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:15:03 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394565802 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394564505 You have a new screen name already? Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:12:08 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394564505 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394561898 I am one to put a negative on your comment solely for the fact that your post has nothing to do with this story. While I am sure there are pros and cons to have the government out of the marriage business, its just not a reality. They are in it and they aren't going away. So, its kind of a pointless comment. I keep on reading the "what ifs" in these comments and it gets old. I am not calling you names, I am just telling you specifically why I gave you a thumbs down. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:06:36 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394561898 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394554300 Well, the protectors of the Constitution, the Supreme Court, have 14 times verified that marriage is a protected right for all citizens. As stated under the 14th Amendment, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Tue, 3 Jul 2012 05:49:07 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394554300 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394552368 I don't remember reading that in the gay agenda newsletter, so not sure where you get your information! I personally am not forcing any type of agenda on you, whatsoever. I really could care less if you think my life is perverted or not. You don't live my life for me just as I don't live yours. So, in all reality you are making gay marriage affect your life, not the other way around. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 05:44:22 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394552368 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394550453 Do you truly believe in what you just wrote? Seriously? Tue, 3 Jul 2012 05:40:05 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394550453 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394542920 I truly respect you and your opinions! I truly do. Only issue is when your beliefs get in the way of basic civil rights that should be awarded to all citizens of this great state and this country. I know it is difficult for some religious people to remember that not every person in this country has the same religious beliefs. I am not saying you, I am saying in general. Tue, 3 Jul 2012 05:21:23 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394542920 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394540874 In Loving v. Virginia, the United States Supreme Court overturned state marriage laws that barred interracial marriages on the basis that marriage is a "basic civil right..." and that "...the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State." So, with marriage being a "basic civil right"...why are we voting on this? Tue, 3 Jul 2012 05:16:33 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ballmer-Gates-show-support-for-same-sex-marriage-161115985.html?clmob=y#IDComment394540874 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/More-than-1-million-raised-to-support-gay-marriage-measure-159367745.html#IDComment387858351 Its kind of amusing how you keep on saying the same thing over and over again to other posters. Civil Rights is not a racial right, Civil Rights are HUMAN rights! Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:57:48 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/More-than-1-million-raised-to-support-gay-marriage-measure-159367745.html#IDComment387858351