en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/5171098 Comments by Jehne_Lunden http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465304993 Yes, I have read several accounts of his propensity towards aggression/violence.... even self harm. I am not doubting his wounds were self-inflicted. I just find it odd that the police didn't investigate this further. Her word at the time was hearsay. I think if she had died and had head wounds, he would have been possibly arrested on the spot. But ya, I don't have all the facts and am not a detective with the police department. So I don't know how their line of reasoning went. As far as CM being exasperating. Well we both know I am not privy to that. But even if she was a royal irritant, this doesn't justify or excuse his lack of self-control, imo. Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:04:41 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465304993 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465251940 "...can you imagine telling the po po the head wounds on your dead husband were by his own hand and they go 'ok'." I bet if the situation were reversed and Christie had the wounds to her head, it would have become a full scale domestic violence investigation. Men do get abused as well. I don't even think the coroner can rule out whether or not such wounds were self-inflicted or caused by someone else. Gun shot wounds it's a little easier. But blows to the head... not so much. Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:44:52 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465251940 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465210288 Was just responding to her comment about my music tastes. Sorry. Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:38:13 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465210288 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465198988 I'll try to behave. She is a Buddhist? Really? Not good role modelling at all. Must not be a Lama. Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:19:02 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465198988 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465195829 I see you have been reading my blog. You think The Smiths are wimpy? R.E.M. not alpha enough? Are you a Metallica fan? Kid Rock? What are some examples of non-wimpy musical tastes? Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:13:34 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment465195829 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464630773 Who cares about the ratings? It's meaningless. It's subjective and arbitrary. The same person can rate the posts multiple times if so inclined. Humor is badly needed. Here and everywhere. But maybe not at my expense, haha. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:22:06 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464630773 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464515635 Was that your handiwork? Wimp. Do you think my skin is so thin that the opinion of a few anon posters makes me lose my voice? Disparaged? Wow it must not take much to insult you. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:12:23 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464515635 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464514031 That's my guess as well. I'm not ruling out the schizophrenic part either. I think anon wants us to think it is Christie or someone from her camp that wrote it. Let's remind everyone how unhinged CM is. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:09:40 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464514031 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464473838 Well, you have always been here. That was the other side of the coin that I offered, wasn't it? Ya you are an insider at DM. You have real world contact with Jerry and BSL. Great. Now we are getting somewhere. So why the anon moniker again? Oh, and do you 'like' your posts? I don't. PS-You are quite skilled at the ad hominem attacks. "Mom" Too funny. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:02:17 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464473838 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464469701 It's badly written regardless of the characters or subject matter. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:55:15 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464469701 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464434969 Well, you came out of nowhere... late in the game. Unless you have been lurking or posting under another moniker as well. You came off like gangbusters after corvid and best stay low posted information regarding Ian and Christie being boarded by several--up to 15--of the remaining retreatants during their exile from DM. You acted defensively--refuting their claims using intimidating psychological and Buddhist jargon to detract from the discussion, knowing corvid and many others would become lost in the fog you erected. While at the same time never providing any concrete evidence to refute their claims nor offering any information of you own. Your little dance was pretty obvious to all those that witnessed it. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:52:32 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464434969 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464430188 It was very poorly written, not clever at all. Satire? Yes. Biting? Hardly nibbling. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:43:16 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464430188 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464427743 You feel like a victim? Take a look at how you attempt to intimidate others with language. Is this not verbal bullying? Be honest, now. Your careful constructs are weapons of debate, no? And calling someone a tool, telling Ekan she rates her own posts, and claiming I have been disparaged here are not forms of bullying? You are clueless, my dear. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:38:41 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464427743 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464372187 Sounds right. Sad. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:52:20 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464372187 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464344955 Wasn't that one of the strangest things you have read in a while? Do you think that person is being serious or poking fan at the whole CM drama? Please take pictures of the Halloween display. I'd love to see it. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:58:41 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464344955 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464338937 That sounds crazier than "A Shift in the Matrix." Is is a joke? Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:46:25 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment464338937 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463911981 Thanks Corvid. Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:24:18 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463911981 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463804140 I prefer to consider myself to be a non-doormat. If feeling cornered leads you to the assumption that I am a bully, so be it. Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:27:11 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463804140 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463775047 I have read the posts. And I am aware that MR and CM have been mostly discredited. It does seem like anon has entered the forum late in the game in hopes to "...confuse [us] by arguing the minutia and parsing the argument to the reduction to the ridiculous." Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:26:14 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463775047 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463773509 Which side is that? Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:22:48 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/06/the-michael-roach-bubble/#IDComment463773509