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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:35:00 +0000

Is this the NEW BBC "doc"? The one they commissioned from NBC Peacock that was written by market guilters Andrea Vogt and Paul Russell? BBC has not allowed this "doc" to be seen in the U.S. even. Let's see... I am assuming David Balding the statistician - who uses DNA in population dynamics/migration studies and tracing family history, NOT in criminal forensics - is saying that the bra hook that was kicked around the murder scene for 47 days as it very obviously changed from pristine white to dingy gray - and when tested showed evidence of at least THREE different male contributors - Balding said it did not appear contaminated??? Identify the other two male contributors, and then we will talk about "contamination". In the violence of that desperate fight-for-life, anyone involved or even present would have incurred injury and also left behind DNA. Meredith did; Rudy did; Amanda left NONE - ergo she was not there. Rudy had extensive injury; Raffaele showed no injuries at all and neither did Amanda - ergo they were NOT THERE during the murder. It is strongly disputed that the DNA on the bra hook even IS Raffaele's, but even if it is, the lack of any other traces and the lack of any injuries still excludes Raffaele from the scene at the time of the murder. As for the lack of DNA in Knox's own room, how do you expect to find any if you do not even look? Stefanoni's own work records document that no DNA collection was done in Knox's bedroom. The same argument applies to fingerprints: the technician's records and his testimony show he only looked for fingerprints in the kitchen (found Knox's) and five places in Filomena's room not including the window or the broken glass. Extremely unprofessional. Guede was an accomplished second-story burglar - why would he need any other to let him in when he had a broken and unlocked window? How is it that you are commenting on this matter and you do not know long ago that the "pink bathroom" was ONLY the result of police spraying the room with a regent that turns pink on contact with any form of protein including as found in soap residues that condense onto wall surfaces in shower rooms? Earlier police photos of the bathroom show it as pristine white except for a pinhead drop of Knox's blood on the basin faucet and a drop of Meredith's blood in the bidet - and Rudy's very dilute footprint on the bath rug. Well, and a blood drip on the back side of the door near the hinge that was only visible when the door was closed if you were actually looking right there. "the police report that she has body odour as if she has just had sex" - seriously, are these human police officers, or are they sex-sniffing dogs??? Can YOU tell just by sniffing someone that they have "had sex"? Get real! Your "iceberg" just melted, and it turned out to be a piece of crushed ice.

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Fri, 14 Feb 2014 02:31:33 +0000

Maybe referring to the price to his conscience?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:35:41 +0000

I imagine that if someone told you they were 6'-2" and you measured and found only 6'-1-3/4", you would make just as much a fuss. I read originally that Donnino was a bilingual police officer. I have since read that she had perhaps been a police officer previously but decided to become a full-time interpreter instead. Honestly I do not know which if either is true at his point. But that is really NOT THE POINT. Donnino was clearly very intimately involved in the case alongside police - and was very familiar with police - and she was NOT an independent and unbiased witness. She was being paid by police and she clearly saw it her duty to "help" the police (which was incidentally what Amanda Knox intended, also.) And Donnino's mental processes were clearly "contaminated" by many privileged details about the police investigation, so she was not impartial or unbiased. But MUCH more importantly, Donnino wrote TWO so-called "spontaneous declarations" in Knox's name, and did not provide with them the English translations of their content for Knox to read, understand and assent to. Instead, it seems quite clear that she "explainified" (that is George W. Bush Texas "Terminogragy") the documents to Knox, thus accounting for the quite clear pencil underlining. Without the matching translations or transcripts in English we have no proof whatsoever that Knox even knew what it was that she was signing. Therefore, both documents qualify as forgeries (because they were written by another "in the name of Knox" and without her informed consent) or fraud (in the quite likely event that they were crafted deceptively.) And that is really all that needs be said. As far as Knox's "various lies", except for these two documents written by someone else, I have not encountered any or certainly any of any actual consequence or unexplained by translational errors (locked door, etc.) Knox recorded a description of events - in direct violation of police instructions - in her email home to numerous recipients on 4 Nov. Except for these two documents which I call forgeries, all of her descriptions of events ever since have matched - in all issues of any consequence - the description she emailed home on that day. As far as minor and inconsequential variances of her reports, I would note that there is a principle in law that whenever testimony is taken from multiple witnesses (or from the same witness on several occasions) that testimony should agree on all important points, but should reflect some variance in at least a few inconsequential matters. This then acts as an assurance that the testimony is not rote-memorized or the product of collusion, and that it actually reflects the independent memories of the witness. Thus Knox's testimony continues to agree with both itself and with that of Raffaele Sollecito on all consequential points - yet does in fact demonstrate authenticity by the slight variances between the two or over time in areas not at all of consequence to the Truth of this case. Neither is lying. As it happens, my great-great-grandfather was once in a position rather like that of Knox. A very well-read man from County Cork, he had certain political views, and because of those views, certain authorities desired to convey upon him the "Order Of the Hemp Collar". My ancestor declined the honor and the dignity, fled through Belfast to Scotland, changing his name en-route, and then like Knox, promptly booked passage to America. This seems to have worked, inasmuch as I am here. Thankfully, those troubles now seem to be past - but we must diligently remember past injustices so as to avoid committing new ones. It is time that Amanda's and Raffaele's troubles also should be long past - since they are provably innocent of the murder of Meredith Kercher.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:40:51 +0000

This from Ed McCall's TMOMK website on the matter: "Anna Donnino is an interpreter and translator with 22 years experience. She was involved with the investigation FROM THE BEGINNING acting as a interpreter for Meredith's British friends. She also translated documents and was used to interpret and translate INTERCEPTED COMMUNICATIONS." [emphasis added] Now we know from the record that Amanda's intercepted phone calls were being translated and reviewed by investigators prior to Knox's "interview" - and if McCall is correct, we know who was doing this translation - as well as translating for all the British girls. Just ONE person: Anna Donnino. Anna Donnino was not doing all this for free: she was being paid. Whether being paid as a police employee or as a contractor, it remains that Police were paying her and that she had a fiduciary obligation and financial incentive to meet their expectations. It is also very clear that she was extremely familiar with the police officers, with police procedures, and with the standard-form "spontaneous declaration". Donnino was NOT an unbiased interpreter. Moreover, it is clear that Donnino had so much information on the investigation from translating other statements, intercepts, conversations, etc., that she was very likely to allow those other information streams to cloud or influence her perceptions of Amanda Knox and of Knox's statements. So the point boils down to that Donnino was not at all an impartial interpreter or translator of Amanda's statements or intents - she was serving the POLICE and she was INTIMATELY involved in the investigation - she was essentially on police payroll - and was not serving Amanda Knox in an impartial manner. So whether she at that time was a commissioned officer or not, she was still there to do the work of the POLICE. And without the audio recordings (which according to one UK reporter she must also have been working to translate and transcribe after the arrests) we really do not have any way to determine whether she translated Amanda's words or even the words of investigating officers correctly. I think Hellmann does a pretty good job of dissecting Donnino's role and her testimony by putting it all into the context of Amanda's growing sense of grief for her friend and fear of a killer on the loose. And all that the prosecution seems able to allege is "She was eating pizza when she should have been crying; she started crying when she should have been eating sandwiches..." Yet no physical evidence ties Knox to the crime at all and any circumstantial case requires such a contortion of the obvious as to be ludicrous. Sorry... I don't buy it at all.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:55:35 +0000

You "have no interest in the matter" and yet you both post and vigorously defend long enumerated lists and make exaggerated accusations. As the fictional Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating! Most Fascinating!" Look up the murder case against Kevin Fox in the murder of Riley Fox, and study carefully: it is instructive.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:52:05 +0000

How nice that your crystal ball gives you such insight into what is truth and what is a lie. Up is down and right is wrong and your crystal ball proves it so.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:48:44 +0000

You like being in denial, don't you? 1. I have gotten one or two speeding tickets in 57 years of driving. Therefore by your standards I have "been in trouble with the police". Does that mean I am a murderer? 4. Police would have known they could reach Sollecito by calling Knox... how? 5. Knox's time was monopolized by police for reportedly about 53 out of 96 elapsed hours between the morning of 2 Nov and the morning of 6 Nov. The overnight interrogation began shortly after 9pm when Knox entered the Questura and come under intense observation - and ended only at around 6am when she finally signed the second "spontaneous" declaration. And how you get that from 11pm to 01:45 plus printing time, explanatory time, etc. is just "75 minutes" is far beyond me: even the police and prosecutor have repeatedly said 2-1/2+ hours. You are being VERY disingenuous, and you are still not accounting for the 4 hour interval between the first and second "spontaneous" declarations. 6. It was widely reported for 5 years that Donnino was a police officer - including by police. Now the tale is suddenly changed. Why? 7. ONE police officer said she "smelled of sex" - which is a pretty prejudicial comment in my book. 8. So what if she knocked her own head? Some people do that when under stress! It does not mean they are murderers! 12. You don't read carefully, do you? TYPED at 05:45 - then proofed - then printed - then "explainified" with three sets of pencil underlining - then signed. Or did you think Knox was just stood by the printer and signed the page as it was still rolling out into the tray? 13. LIE. Knox's own autograph in English of the morning of 6 Nov clearly states that she has no confidence that she was actually present at the time of the murder or that her identification of Lumumba is valid. Police can "say" whatever lies they want, but THEY turned over the document (copy) to the defense. 14. There is no evidence that the knife was ever taken to the cottage (except an not-well-documented report that police did after extracting it from Raff's apartment.) Whatever DNA was or was not found on the blade is IRRELEVANT because (1) it was NOT DERIVED FROM BLOOD, and (2) it is NOT demonstrated how it got there. (However, cross-contamination during the several days the knife was in police hands before delivery to Stefanoni - or in Stefanoni's uncertified-for-LCN-processing laboratory are both very reasonable hypotheses.) 15. The knife is meaningless if it was not in the murder room at the time of the murder and had no blood on it - and we know it had never had blood - or bleach - on it. 16. The knife can be excluded from the fatal wounds - so it NOT the murder weapon - and those wound it cannot be excluded from NO KNIFE could be excluded from - including all those in YOUR kitchen. 17. The "DNA" on the blade could not be verified: it was not split into two samples for separate processing as required by agreed ISFG and InterPol standards. Therefor it is by standards NOT RELIABLE. (Also the unauthorized / uncertified LCN processing made it unreliable and unacceptable.) 18. Whether Knox was "seen" at the store is in some dispute even among store clerks, but the fact that she did NOT purchase any bleach there is beyond dispute. 19. What I stated seems clear enough. Read it again. 20. Read it again.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:09:30 +0000

"The judge is only allowed to clear someone on an alternative theory" Well, that tells the whole story right there: "Never mind that the evidence we convicted you on turned out to all be bad - we cannot let you go unless we have someone else in hand - so guilty or not you are 'IT'." True Justice is not a game of "tag".

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:22:21 +0000

You sure have your "facts" screwed up. Why don't you change your posting name to admit what you really are: not a Europhile but an Ameriphobe.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:18:20 +0000

No, audrey, Knox was interrogated intensively from just after 11pm until sometime after the SECOND "spontaneous declaration" was crafted and typed up by Anna Donnino at 05:45 (timestamp typed on the document itself) and then THIS was "explained" to Amanda and she finally signed it sometime after 6am. And Amanda's signatures on the two documents prove to any qualified graphologist (handwriting analyst) that Knox was not "resting in the four hours between being presented with the TWO documents, but was in fact undergoing EXTREME coercive experience at the hands of the nearly THIRTY police officers who ultimately signed the documents of record for her interrogation.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:12:57 +0000

Her "confession" (in which she admitted no involvement whatsoever in the murder) was TYPED at 01:45, but pencil underlining on the document attests that it took rather a while to "explain" it to Knox - THREE TIMES apparently - before she would sign it. And then Anna Donnino typed up another, different "confession" (in which Knox STILL admits no involvement in the murder whatsoever) at 05:45 - and AGAIN it bears pencil underlining from being "explained" to Knox, and her signature on that document is mute testimony that she had been quite literally TORTURED during the intervening FOUR HOURS. Your SPIN is merely making you dizzy.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:58:10 +0000

The reason Amanda's lamp was found in Meredith's room is just incredibly simple. Unlike common practice in the US, the cottage bedrooms do seem to have permanent light fixtures in the middle of the ceiling: all lighting is by "protable" lamps. Meredith's room had two such - one on her bed stand and one on her desk. In crime scene photos it becomes clear that both (at least their "bulbs" of whatever sort) were broken in the struggle. Meredith had glass shards imbedded in her hands and I think knees that presumably came from these. So after mortally wounding Meredith, Rudy needed to search her room - but it was after 9pm in November and the room was dark - so he went looking for a different lamp. The next room was Amanda's - the nearest available unbroken lamp. Therefore he took it to Meredith's room so that he could see to move and strip her body, look for his lost shoe, rifle her handbag, find her phones, etc. So this is supposed to be a big MYSTERY already?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:50:12 +0000

Why can't you just accept that they ALWAYS HAVE BEEN TELLING THE TRUTH???? Do you believe you have the perfect lie detector or something?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:28:40 +0000

21. REQUIRED control tests were not performed. 22. None of the Luminol stains contained Meredith's BLOOD - or anybody else's either. 24. Prosecutor Mignini claimed Meredith was killed as part of a satanic ritual. TRUTH - but "he changed his story so many times". His last "theory" was "Amanda might theoretically have instigated the murder while even staying in the other room"! 25. MARESCA called Amanda Knox a “she-devil” - AND "a witch". 26. Mignini SHOULD HAVE BEEN imprisoned and was GOING TO BE before this murder happened. 27. Rudy Guede was a STREET CRIMINAL and DRUG DEALER and had repeatedly been implicated in BURGLARIES AND ROBBERIES WHILE ARMED WITH A KNIFE. 28. Police mysteriously ignored all criminal complaints against Rudy Guede 29. Rudy left his ENOUGH DNA all over Meredith and the crime scene - and INSIDE her body. 30. He left his PRINTS all over Meredith's bag - in HER OWN BLOOD. 31. He left his bloody fingerprints UNDER Meredith's body. 32. Police initially reported "African hair" at the crime scene, and Rudy was the African who was proved present. Later reports mysteriously identified this a "textile fiber". No defense analysis was allowed. 33. Rudy entered what in the US would be called an "Alford Plea" and refused to contest charges. 34. Rudy DIDN'T implicate Knox and Sollecito until AFTER he was returned to Italy. He initially denied their very presence and did not even know who Sollecito WAS! 35. Rudy Guede was not Amanda's friend - but rather an acquaintance of Meredith's own boyfriend. 36. Raffaele Sollecito had never been ARRESTED insofar as we know. 37. Raffaele WROTE that the only way he could not confirm Knox's alibi was if she left and returned while he was sleeping without waking him. He later recalled that she could not possibly have gotten back into his flat without waking him to open the door. 38. The Italian Supreme Court ruled that Amanda Knox's interrogation was illegal FOR CRIMINAL TRIAL PURPOSES. It was pulled in for the CIVIL LAWSUIT. 39. The Supreme Court threw out Amanda Knox's witness statement - see #38. 40. Dr. Stefanoni and the forensic technicians broke AGREED INTERNATIONAL DNA HANDLING STANDARDS of the ISFG and InterPol.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:28:04 +0000

1. Amanda Knox had NOT been "in trouble with police" except that as hostess of a party she took responsibility for the inappropriate behavior of her guests in the public street in front of her home. More or less like taking responsibility for what another driver did with your car while borrowing it. 2. On the day of discovery of Meredith’s murder, Knox DID voluntarily stay behind to help the police: her mother told her to GET OUT and go to Germany the very first day while she still could! 3. MOST Meredith’s British friends DID leave immediately. 4. Police DID call Knox's phone - not Raff's - on 5 Nov 2007, asking KNOX to have Raff come to the Questura - and knowing full well that she would come also. 5. She WAS subjected to an all-night interrogation - it began when she came under observation after 9pm, continued in an interrogation room from 11pm, and produced two documents, the last signed at 6am OR LATER. That sure seems like "all night" to me! 6. She wasn't provided with an INDEPENDENT interpreter (as required by law and international agreement, BTW.) Anna Donnino was a police officer (and is also the actual and admitted author of the two "spontaneous declarations". 7. She was plied with a diuretic tea and wasn't allowed to use a restroom even to change her menstrual arrangements. 8. She was smacked in the back of the head when she did not "remember correctly". Giobbi reported - IN CHORTLES - hearing her screams from three rooms away. 9. She WAS asked to "imagine" what might have happened. That is a standard part of the "Reid Technique" that was used on her and which has a broad history of producing false "confessions". 10. During her questioning, Knox made a statement that said she had a “vision” she was at the cottage when Meredith was murdered. TRUTH. 11. Mignini questioned her on 6 November 2007, AND TOLD HER D+SHE SHOULD NOT NEED AN ATTORNEY. 12. The second "spontaneous declaration" - which was still not a "confession" - was not even typed up until 05:45am - by Anna Donnino, not Knox. 13. She retracted THE VERACITY OF her allegation against Lumumba immediately (by 9am on 6 Nov. 14. The only DNA alleged to connect Knox directly to the crime was on a knife that is provably not the murder weapon and was never taken to the cottage or involved there at all and had never been in contact with any quantity of either blood or bleach. The knife had been very improperly handled - lying openly on an investigator's desk for days - and the "Meredith" DNA alleged but not confirmed to have been found thereon almost certainly WAS by contamination during improper LCN processing. 15. The knife IS MEANINGLESS. 16. The knife doesn’t match any of the SERIOUS wounds on Meredith’s body, and any that it might "match" could as easily have been from a BOX CUTTER. 17. The DNA on the blade could not be verified, and invalid, substandard procedures had been used in processing it. 18. Meredith's BLOOD wasn't found on the blade of the knife, and any DNA could not be verified as required BY AGREED STANDARDS. 19. No other knives were taken from Sollecito's KITCHEN and no other knives were processed for DNA. 20. The knife was chosen with the spoken words "THIS WILL DO" (or the equivalent in Italian - recorded on the video.)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:27:14 +0000

Knox's "description" of the murder was woefully inaccurate: she said Meredith was "in the wardrobe". What this statement undoubtedly derived from is that one of Filomena's friends who helped break down the door stood and watched as the Postal Police lifted the duvet to expose Meredith's face - which could still not be seen directly from the doorway where the boys were waiting - but COULD in fact be seen "IN" the wardrobe mirror which is clearly and plainly visible on the inside of the open wardrobe door in police photos of the crime scene. Meredith's face and butchered throat were visible by reflection "IN" the wardrobe mirror. In the US and UK both, even CONVICTIONS have been routinely overturned when the DNA of someone other than the accused is found in a crime scene and that of the accused is not. In either nation, this case would be non-prosecutable against Knox and Sollecito and their convictions (if any) would be ruled "unsafe" or invalid. Your list of "40 lies" is in fact itself mostly lies (on your part).

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ : Why Amanda Knox\'s spin shouldn\'t deny justice for Meredith - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Sun, 9 Feb 2014 22:04:41 +0000

I would think it very unlikely that Cassazione will "throw out" this conviction given their recent track record: (1) ruling that if a woman wearing "tight jeans" is raped, she must have helped her attacker remove her attire, and therefore it was really "spontaneous consensual sex"; (2) ruling that seven earth scientists who "failed to predict" a deadly earthquake are guilty of "manslaughter"; (3) ruling that a 61-year-old social services worker who repeatedly raped his vulnerable 11-year-old client could not be convicted because of the "tenderness" shared between the girl and her abuser. If you think this is not institutionalized injustice on a grand scale, you must then also excuse Slobodan Milošević and company. Knox is in the U.S. and is subject to U.S. law and the Constitution, and there are hundreds or thousands of wholly independent and unpaid people who will fight tooth and nail to prevent her extradition on any of at least three or four known grounds - not least of which being the utter lack of any evidence at all against her. However, Knox will doubtless feel devastated if Sollecito ends up in prison over this injustice. For a better understand of Knox and her REAL personality, I suggest reading the 7 Feb article by Simon Hattenstone in another well-known UK-based news organ. We are deeply heartened on this side of the pond that there are journalists like Hattenstone in the UK who see through this mass of propaganda to the truth of this case and the real human damage that is even yet being done by the out-of-control and insular Italian Injustice System.

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Sun, 9 Feb 2014 21:45:10 +0000

"Italy's justice system may differ from America's but there is nothing to suggest it is any less scrupulous, fair or prejudiced against random, innocent Americans..." Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.... ha-ha-ha.... ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha....! Even in the UK, this case would have been thrown out faster than the arrest of Christopher Jefferies. There is no reliable evidence - never was any reliable evidence - and the prosecution is based entirely and solely upon conjecture and fantasy. 'SHE POINTED TOR FINGER AT AN INNOCENT MAN. NO PR CAN SUGAR COAT THAT' Never mind that for two full weeks Giobbi and Mignini both absolutely CHORTLED that it was THEY - not Knox - who first identified Lumumba, and that it was THEY - with their superior powers of inductive reasoning, "intuition" and persuasion - who finally "forced" Amanda Knox to give him up as the killer! They BRAGGED about this!!!!! Then Lumumba turned out to have an airtight alibi, so suddenly it was all "Amanda's fault". "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should BELIEVE A LIE." Yep. Right here.

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