Communism is essentially a society which has no property relations, socialism is socialised property, which we have, directed by a class interest, which we have, just the wrong class from the stand point of most.

In both cases socialism and communism it is the same historical contradiction at work, communism is just where its solves itself. Human greed is a product of that contradiction, it is not universal even in our society in the terrible state it is in.

The definition you use is not from Marx, community or any form of ownership makes no sense in communism, what has been described is an odd version of 'socialism' that certainly never existed in the USSR, when was all property, in all its forms communally or even state owned in effect?

This definition is a reverse image private property dominance, a figment of ideology. The closest we have ever gotten to all property being controled is what the west now has, all property is virtually controlled by bankers through debt.

Introducing worker's socialism now would actually increase private property, actual competition and profits, to balance the economy so that the state could direct capital by nationalizing the financial system which is a process that can be seen happening in China today, not that everything is rosy there, but no historical process is ever clean.

Normally I do not do this, but you need to avtually read Marx and Engels, try Lenin as well socialism is stage of history not a utopian anything, followed by communism as another stage of history that is derived from specific series of contradictions developed in the last 10,000 years since the neolithic. Just calling something communist does not make it so.

Socialism if you read carefully is state capitalism, in that sense it is already here. Whose socialism is the question, that is the choice.

As for this human nature read the economic and philosophic manuscripts of 1843 it the German ideology of 1849 you will see a real dissertation on humans nature that has not yet been answered by anything better. Please if you are going to oppose something learn the basics of it.

Damn spell correction strafor not steadied

I am not a weapons expert, the way I read the documrents from a number of sources the 'flaw' seemed specific to the missile set in iran. I assumed it was access codes to each battery. Hence when Israel bombed Iran none of the s300 defenses saw them. I assume that they were an instruction set that tuned the radar against decoys and calibrate specific target signatures for different conditions.

But that is a lot of assuming based on very curt intelligence memos mostly by steadied.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-419636...

Lorraine Barlett posted this on Saker's sight on January 12, 2020

" I am sure by now you have seen the article link (from 2012) reposted by me on several sites. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-419636...

In that article it was stated:
"According to the leaked document, Israel gave Russia the "data link codes" for unmanned aerial vehicles that the Jewish state sold to Georgia, and in return, Russia gave Israel the codes for Tor-M1 missile defense systems that Russia sold Iran."

I believe at that time PM Medvedev was visiting Isreal repeatedly, and that this is the likely immediate cause of Putin sacking his government.

Checking wikileaks I found that Iran had raised serious questions about how Israeli raids had passed the S300 systems. Recently Iran has suggested cyber attacks as a precondition for the downing of Flight 752 as this article argues.

The Atlanticist liberals of Medvedev's faction ,have now stained themselves with an act of US alliance state terrorism, which also led to them not opposing the invasion of Libya amongst other concessions to empire.

For obvious reasons this will be kept under the carpet, which makes it important for voices to connect the dots. If Iran and Russia can more closely ally that is a good thing, disposing of the Atlantists will definitely help, by pointing out the connection we can help accelerate the change. Against US aggression the world must unite, and that means those that aid the US are war criminals.

If what I am suggesting is right Medvedev and some of his faction need tgo be removed entirely.

There is no middle ground, technically there is no left or right, there is just the class...

"We on the left didn’t lose this election. We lost our last illusions. The system is rigged – as it always has been – to benefit those in power. It will never willingly allow a real socialist, or any politician deeply committed to the health of society and the planet, to take power away from the corporate class. That, after all, is the very definition of power. That is what the corporate media is there to uphold."

The wisdom of history is often produced unconsciously as the by-product of some other intent.

The blairites finally killed the left-liberals that are the Labour party, their allies in America, the UK, the corporates cooked the results before the vote.

The UK is about to be dissolved to become Ireland, Scotland and England, (Wales where are you?). Separate commonwealths in the making. This is a healthy start. Europe's !848 is to be revisited with vigor without any middle class holding things back.

It is world wide, noit just American, I am in Australia and see the same thing, but also a lot of the world is starting to fight back, really fight and starting to win strategically despite the coups and colour revolutions, corruption and intelligence subterfuges.

I look at my own country with a smile now, the string is running out, the American ship will sink and we have tied ourselves to its railings. Our future is in Asia as one nation amongst many, not as the US bully boy in Asia pacific which I am so ashamed.

I take some comfort in Anonymous's motto --- do not forget nor forgive. This time those that conspire for aggressive wars, interfere in the internals of another country, and design loans that starve millions, those that aided and abetted, have to be
1 )removed from positions of power.
2) punished fairly and by evidence.

Note that 1) does not require 2), as 1) merely means being fired, and who has not experienced that, it is not a punishment just an adjustment.

Beautifully said the same plus double for my homeland Australia.

If people feel powerless. and are powerless, they will accommodate every injustice simply because they are powerless.

Popular power has to be consciously created by people, and for that it always begins with one thing, doing something small and immediate that relieves distress, small things that foster power. But it is not then an accumulation of little things, but large steps as that power begins to surge and enter their lives and give meaning to their actions.

That people do not protest is because they are sensible of their conditions. In liberal democracy as soon as they start self-acting the liberals descend and take over , defuse and redirect, destroying the critical edge of ordinary people.

Social democracy is all about self-organisation, not ideology, good vibes, issues or causes. Whatever is about that needs fixing and can be fixed --- fix that, welcome others, listen to what concerns people. From little things bog things grow, otherwise it is a sullen crowd watching their own executions, be that the suffering of some foreigner far away who they do not known, the secret thought is always "not us".

Freedom is not a right, but an action, it begins not in symbolic acts but practical ones, while servitude is not a choice but are general condition. Everything is connected which is both our weakness and our strength.

Those that are aware that something needs to be done, they have the self-imposed responsibility to think things through, throw away their own illusions and get the whole picture in their minds, this is the end of liberal democracy and rising of social democracy, forget all schemes, utopias, slogans, and fond beliefs --- the answer lies in the nature of the servitude which is our common foe.