en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/536388 Comments by GNG http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/08/couple-who-chose-prayer-over-medical-attention-for-their-daughter-are-jailed/#IDComment38152758 Very telling barrie. Well done. It's good to see that your years of belief are now a great asset in your more enlightened times. Godless not gormless Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:00:08 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/08/couple-who-chose-prayer-over-medical-attention-for-their-daughter-are-jailed/#IDComment38152758 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/08/couple-who-chose-prayer-over-medical-attention-for-their-daughter-are-jailed/#IDComment38152484 Typical repuslive garbage from the brainless! Don't you care about what happened to this little girl? Doesn't it bother you that your god didn't step in to help her when she really needed it? If you really believe in god and his mercy and kindness, don't you think he might have intervened in this case? This little girl was abused and let down by her parents and other adults around her, all of whom presumably believed in your god. It was time for god to show a little mercy for a change. A chance to show he exists. Unsurprisingly, he didn't do anything for the simple reason that non existance is a major impediment to achieving anything. Try to learn something from this Debbie. Either god is imaginary or he just doesn't give a shit about believers abusing others. I'd go for the former. It makes a lot of sense. Godless not gormless Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:01 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/08/couple-who-chose-prayer-over-medical-attention-for-their-daughter-are-jailed/#IDComment38152484 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/08/couple-who-chose-prayer-over-medical-attention-for-their-daughter-are-jailed/#IDComment38136790 The judge clearly does believe and therefore should never have been allowed to preside in this case. Look at what he said: " Think about Kara and what God wants you to learn from this." "God probably works through other people, some of them doctors." This is totally outrageous! I can't believe that these people got off so lightly. Once again, children are the victims of religious looneys. Disgraceful. Godless not gormless Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:15:01 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/10/08/couple-who-chose-prayer-over-medical-attention-for-their-daughter-are-jailed/#IDComment38136790 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/22/muslims-mass-producing-children-to-take-over-africa-says-archbishop/#IDComment36849831 "Its amazing, they say: "we want world domination" and people laugh and say "don't we all". You say "they want world domination" and immediately there are screams of Islamophobe. " Well said gsw!!! Godless not gormless Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:37:56 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/22/muslims-mass-producing-children-to-take-over-africa-says-archbishop/#IDComment36849831 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/24/abercrombie-and-fitch-faces-religious-discrimination-lawsuit-over-hijab-ban/#IDComment36553984 Well said Gordon and more or less what I was about to say myself. I was driving along the motorway yesterday through roadworks and spotted three guys working at the side of the road (ok, one was working and the other two were watching but I think that counts as working for these guys). Two of them were wearing hard hats, and there is no way anyone can get away without them on sites these days...unless of course you're like the third guy - a sikh - wearing a turban. It's just plain wrong. If one of the other guys was to decide not to wear his hard hat, he'd be disciplined or possibly even face losing his job, but...if you have crazy dress code due to crazy beliefs - that's ok. As you said Gordon, this woman went out of her way to try to gain compensation, apparently even lookng for backpay for a job she never had and of course "compensation for emotional pain and anxiety”. I hope this company stands it's ground. She should look for a job that suits her. Godless not gormless Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:22:57 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/24/abercrombie-and-fitch-faces-religious-discrimination-lawsuit-over-hijab-ban/#IDComment36553984 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35340679 What if we were to cross a cat with a pig? That would really get to them! Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:03:29 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35340679 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/20/catholic-church%e2%80%99s-cruelty-and-greed-told-in-the-tragic-story-of-an-irish-mum/#IDComment35340111 No Ivan, I hadn't looked at the actual story itself and I'm amazed and dismayed to find that she is now going to mass again. She is actually giving support to this evil organisation and watering down what should be the effect of the story. It will give catholics who read about this, reason to keep the faith because they'll see that she doesn't hold the catholic church responsible. It's just unbelievable how gullible people can be! Godless not gormless Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:57:09 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/20/catholic-church%e2%80%99s-cruelty-and-greed-told-in-the-tragic-story-of-an-irish-mum/#IDComment35340111 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/21/religious-discrimination-complaints-follow-hood-and-cross-ban/#IDComment35338394 Agreed Stoney. I was sort of hoping that the whole point was to make a point about the kind of thing that is happening re the second story, but I have to admit that I'm at a loss to see how this is being achieved. Maybe time will tell or maybe it's just that the force is not with me yet. If he is doing it for that reason, like you I'm right behind him. If not - if he's serious - FFS!!! Godless not gormless Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:37:37 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/21/religious-discrimination-complaints-follow-hood-and-cross-ban/#IDComment35338394 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/20/catholic-church%e2%80%99s-cruelty-and-greed-told-in-the-tragic-story-of-an-irish-mum/#IDComment35210827 barriejohn beat me to it!! Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:04:36 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/20/catholic-church%e2%80%99s-cruelty-and-greed-told-in-the-tragic-story-of-an-irish-mum/#IDComment35210827 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35183861 I had to learn the catechism at school too, and it was one of the things that really put me off religion. I was very young of course, but I could still think to some degree and realised that there was just something wrong with this. I also remember as a teenager, when my father didn't like how I was behaving and suggested that I re-learn it. Itold him what I thought of it and he just stood there - flabberghasted - unable to think of what to say. Probably a combinatoin of rage and disbelief, or maybe he was just trying to work out which directoin he should run to escape the impending lighting bolt destined to arrive at any second. It never came of course. Re the wee free church. Did you see these guys out protesting at the ferry sailing from Lewis a month or so back? They were out on a Sunday protesting that the ferry was sailing on a Sunday because no one should be doing anything on a Sunday. What fuckin morons! They'll be dammed to hell now I should think. Best thing for them. Godless not gormless Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:48:29 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35183861 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35183039 This is very true. I actually gave up eating children some time ago because of this. if only religiots would understand how responsible us atheists are, they might have more respect for us. They seem to think we'd just eat any children, whereas I think most of us are actually quite choosy. Godless not gormless Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:35:46 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35183039 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35182650 your write their Barrie. Some of what remigius rights is always wrong half the time he says it and almost most of that is bollocks. Godless not gormless Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:29:29 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35182650 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35179300 Do you think that cat of yours could be put to good use against chowdhry and his moronic followers? Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:36:11 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35179300 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35178767 Nope, sorry barrie, hadn't been following that. I actually thought you were suggesting that your material wasn't that good! Oops! Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:28:55 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35178767 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/20/catholic-church%e2%80%99s-cruelty-and-greed-told-in-the-tragic-story-of-an-irish-mum/#IDComment35178549 I agree Stoneyground. This story is appalling and unfortunately is in no way an isolated incident. As you say, how many times do we have to hear about such disgraceful behaviour before people start to come to their senses? I think those who believe are too brainwashed to think for themselves most of the time, afterall, this is exactly the way in which religion tries to program people to behave. They are too ready to believe that no matter what, god is good and religion is good and in this case the catholic church is good as are most of those who work for it, but will probably make the excuse that there is always a bad apple in the cart or that these people were only trying to do the right thing for those involved within the social constricts of the time. Unfortunately, they will not (or at least not too many of them) realise that this is the way religion is. It is what religion is about. Cruelty, oppression, control, power and money (please feel free to correct me if I missed any). We are constantly hearing about terrible mistreatment of people at the hands of religions and their followers. It's well past time people woke up to the truth. On Friday night, I was watching a debate between Christopher Hitchens and Dinesh D'Souza (a mismatch if ever there was one, but it makes for very entertaining viewing) where D'Souza, a catholic, argued that we owe our morality to christianity. Thank fuck he's a silly twat and that's just not true. Can you imagine if we did actually take our moral guidance from the bible? Shit! BTW, why the fuck does D'Souza keep on doing this to himself? Hitchens destroys him every time! Godless not gormless Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:25:41 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/20/catholic-church%e2%80%99s-cruelty-and-greed-told-in-the-tragic-story-of-an-irish-mum/#IDComment35178549 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35120917 Then set up your own website and publish them there instead. There's no need to settle for not being published in the age of the internet! I thought that one was quite witty. I've certainly seen worse! You and remigius could get together. Could be entertaining! Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:26:48 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35120917 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35106413 very good and far more entertaining than the koran. I'll take the credit for it for feeding you the line "man from Iran". The rest just fell into place. ;-) Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:22:31 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35106413 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/17/don%e2%80%99t-mention-the-word-%e2%80%98god%e2%80%99-if-you-want-to-succeed-at-finding-an-on-line-date/#IDComment35105406 In scotland, stonner would be most appropriate. Understand? Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:04:56 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/17/don%e2%80%99t-mention-the-word-%e2%80%98god%e2%80%99-if-you-want-to-succeed-at-finding-an-on-line-date/#IDComment35105406 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/17/don%e2%80%99t-mention-the-word-%e2%80%98god%e2%80%99-if-you-want-to-succeed-at-finding-an-on-line-date/#IDComment35105137 so, we aint evn met yet an u makin xcuses not to hav sex wiv me ok i can take a hint good luk in ur srch Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:00:38 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/17/don%e2%80%99t-mention-the-word-%e2%80%98god%e2%80%99-if-you-want-to-succeed-at-finding-an-on-line-date/#IDComment35105137 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35105000 Agreed Barrie. Didn't we have enough of these stupid works of fiction without him chipping in? Not a muslim barrie, but maybe a xtian? You did say you were one of those too. Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:58:04 +0000 http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/19/public-eat-in-during-ramadan-sparks-death-threats-against-moroccan-man/#IDComment35105000