It’s ukip now in my case, Nigel’s new party looks even less credible to me. But that could change. UKIP might not win a single seat and Corbyn might win the election as a consequence. That would be a nightmare but it would be temporary. The alternative is to continue to vote for a party that will continue to slap you in the face in perpetuity, and that is never ending. The only way to make the tories respect your vote is to first show them your vote cannot be taken for granted.
The Conservative big wigs might be right in their assumptions that no matter how they treat their base their voters will always stick with them because Corbyn is worse and there is nowhere else to go, but in my case they are wrong. Labour governments are a nightmare but they are temporary, the damage they do can be reversed and we have survived them before. We would survive Corbyn. Better a temporary nightmare like Corbyn than the nightmare that never ends of having ones own party continually betray them.
I would still do it. To vote for a party that I feel have lied to me from the start and betrayed me because I’m scared someone I really don’t like might win if I don’t is beyond pathetic. Now I see why the Tory leadership feel they can treat their core supporters this way. If their votes can be taken for granted their opinions are worthless, at least to a politician anyway.
PS. I was a Tory and will never vote Tory again. If an election tomorrow UKIP.
I suspect you are right. But I have to ask why is this different to the Scottish independence referendum where at the subsequent GE the 45% turned out on mass to vote snp resulting in all the Scottish seats bar three voting nationalist. If anything the 52% have more to be angry about because they actually won and have had their win stolen from them by a Parliament refusing to give it to them. This group will vote Tory? Why? The Scots didn’t.
You’re probably right, but how do you know? In Scotland after the SNP lost the independence referendum the 45% who voted for independence turned out on mass and voted SNP at the next General Election and won every seat bar 3. The independence referendum reset the voting dials. This is different you say. OK, but why?
If 2/3rds of the 17.4 million who voted leave voted UKIP there would be a UKIP landslide on about 35% of the vote under FPTP. The mistake was believing the tories when they said no deal was better than a bad deal. It’s now clear that no deal is unacceptable to them and they see Brexit as a damage limitation exercise. Not being able to keep a manifesto promise is one thing, being insincere about a promise from the start is quite another. If you want Brexit the solution is to vote for a party that actually wants to deliver it. The tories deserve to go the way of the Lib Dem’s.
Mrs May said no deal was better than a bad deal. Question is, do you believe she meant it? Or do you think she thinks no deal is an unacceptable outcome and almost any deal is better and that no deal isn’t an opinion. If the later then the only solution is vote UKIP and hope the tories go the way of the Lib Dem’s. Disappointment with a political party is one thing, lies and betrayal another thing entirely.
You might be right. But the Scottish referendum reset the voting dials so I don’t see why it couldn’t happen with this. Mrs May told us no deal is better than a bad deal, but it now seems to me that she thinks no deal is unacceptable and any deal is better. That’s utterly duplicitous in my book, so I hope the tories go the way of the Lib Dem’s.
That’s entirely up to the voters. If we want it we can have it. If the other parties want to either at worse cancel Brexit, or at best, treat it as a damage limitation exercise; and 11 million voters can’t be found out of an electorate of 46 million to put a cross in the box for a party who everyone knows wants to deliver Brexit then does the country want (or deserve) Brexit? There is no reason why 11 million people can’t put a cross in the box other than 11 million people don’t want to (or are too scared of the other lot) to do it. In Scotland the independence referendum reset the voting dials.
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