en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/453450 Comments by Cicero10 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21209698 The "Colin Powells" killed the Repub. party. RINOs seeing the "bipartsin" one party system protective of their political life are only to happy to compromise. "Going along to get along" is the current slogan of the Repub. party , their loyalties lie with the political class not with the nation. Mon, 11 May 2009 00:16:03 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21209698 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21208645 Re. a national government the only thing held in common by all is defense against external enemies and their internal allies. As a price cannot be put on freedom all have the same intereest and therefore should pay the same percentage of personal income, no pass along corporate tax or VAT- the politician's ploy. A sales tax would soon be defocused into categories and classes, exemptions and deductions, it affords too much latitude and requires too much trust of the government. A flat tax, singular amount, no deductions, no exemptions, no categories - only one number for all to watch, no shell games by politicians. Expenditures limited to 10th amendment authorizations would disallow excesses that bring fiscal ruination. Sun, 10 May 2009 23:49:43 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21208645 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21005852 Re. current bank crisis resembles NEPMEN in the Soviet Union in the early twenties - a sucker trap Thu, 7 May 2009 23:31:46 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21005852 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20973634 Same-old dialectic, Bush I, Dole, Bush II and Mc Cain hardly a reference for "big tent" politics. A say the "right" things campaign to get elected, do the "wrong" things to "get along" when elected, come home to say the "right' things for another campaign. Even random choices would give you better than what we have. Without purging those that have voted for anti-Constitutional bills its "business as usually". Playing by the opposition's play book will simply add to their momentum to complete success. Is it the conservation of conservativism (? - just what is it that you want to conserve that exists?) or is it the putting of "new wine in old bottles"? Thu, 7 May 2009 13:11:18 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20973634 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20972933 It is not a question of building "bridges" to any particular "group", it's about principles not some special group pandering - that's where the Repubs. "big tent" strategy always fails ultimately, more attention is paid to accommodation of sensitivities than principles. It would be hoped than that we have graduated beyond "tribes" to principle. Thu, 7 May 2009 12:52:21 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20972933 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20972592 Since the Repubs won't purge their party of RINO's supporting them by voting for so-called "conservatives" seems just more of the same old-same old that got us to this point. Once voted in they go to Washington and have their spine and brain removed, and the "party-faithful" get the "lessor of two-evils" dialectic again in the next election. The Libertarian party has its problems but they are more solvable than participating in the decades old charade of socialist A or socialist B. Thu, 7 May 2009 12:44:08 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20972592 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20972026 Reduction of government costs lies with adherence to 10th Amendment - each and every bill, program, treaty and regulation as the threshold Thu, 7 May 2009 12:30:49 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20972026 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20924159 AMERICAN I AM AN AMERICAN, NOT A GLOBALIST I AM A CAPITALIST, NOT A SOCIALIST I AM AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT A COLLECTIVIST I AM AN INDEPENDENT PERSON, NOT A GOVERNMENT DEPENDENT I AM AN ADHERENT OF PRINCIPLE, NOT A RELATIVIST I AM HOLDER OF VALUES, NOT A PRAGMATIST I AM AN OBJECTIVIST, NOT AN IRRATIONALIST I AM A REALIST, NOT A FANCIER I AM A DOER, NOT A WISHER I BELIEVE FREEDOM TO BE THE MOST DEAR OF ALL HUMAN VALUES, WITHOUT IT ALL ELSE IS FALSE Thu, 7 May 2009 02:08:23 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20924159 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20896046 Choice of the lessor of two evils is the scam -unlearned to this point by Repub. faithful- resulting in the one-party system actually (see Tragedy and Hope). Proscription of any and all elected officials breaking their oath of office (the Constitution) is the only honest way that the fortunes of the country will be changed, does anyone believe that deals with "moderate" Repubs. would bring this about? To take over the Repub. party on a national basis would require a county by county struggle in each state (a majority) to wrest control from the current crop of compromisers. To build a second party would require most of the same efforts and be a much more reliable organization for a longer period of time. Could either be done? The dedication and effort that would be required would be staggering in either case but isn't the choice between these rather than the default to what we are currently? How-to information on either procedure is needed, but a philosophical basis needs to be maintained in order to cast out the socialist interlopers in either case Wed, 6 May 2009 17:46:44 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20896046 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20851548 It is not the Repub. party that needs saving, it has mostly dissolved itself into the Dem party. The Repubs. have become a non-entity in American politics except in certain local situations. Should energy, let alone trust, be put into an organization that has betrayed everyone except the party elite? Another party would really be a second party. Regional meetings, textbook on starting a local party, capturing an existing local party, preventing attacks by incombant officials - maybe a focus in a particular area. Fundamentals for today and tomorrow based on a set of principles, transcendental and purposeful - the Constitution. All things that can be- if there is time, if there is energy. Suggesting the term Constitutional Libertarian to describe adherence to Constitution and its limits on Libertarianism. An additional comment - rec'd a "questionaire" from the Reub. party asking for opinion (and money) -- too little, too late, the same old crowd just gives us "strawman" types like Dole and McCain . Wed, 6 May 2009 01:35:04 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment20851548 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1256#IDComment19761220 Considering the current circumstance and previous history all effort should be focused on shrinking and restricting government which term limits would assist in as I would rather sacrifice a promising politician and prevent the loss of freedom over the long run. As elected and appointed officials take an oath to uphold the Constitution (10th amendment) and almost all have violated it proscription at least would seem to be in order. For several decades moderate fixes, avoidance of confrontation and the corruption of compromise has been tried, tried and failed, an effete effort. When the time for rewriting the rules of the 'game' comes the most non-trusting, most restrictive "chains" ( a la Jefferson) must be placed on the government for IT IS BETTER TO SUFFER THE VICES OF LIBERTY THAN TO ENJOY THE VIRTUES OF A FERAL GOVERNMENT. Incidentally, I believe a "third-party" in truth would be really a second party. Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:57:45 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1256#IDComment19761220 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1256#IDComment19736779 Excellent, except "term limits" of one term per elected office should be instituted as a further defensive wall against the national government. If the job is too complex to learn in one term then it's too complex (i.e. intrusion in every facet of a citizen's life with unread thousands of pages laws). Power fiefdoms of establishment elites, the same people, rotating between jobs, appointed and "elected" by the one-party system (bipartisan), have been in existance for many years. A step in breaking their power would be to break a link in their chain - the continual and mostly uninterrupted control via the multi-term one-party system. Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:45:51 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1256#IDComment19736779 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1256#IDComment19733635 There is a necessity for communication clarity in which definitions are important for as been said "the loss of language brings the loss of liberty" - a republic is a limited government, a democracy (not in Constitution and held in contempt) is an unlimited government, neither having to do with the determination of who is included in the electorate except in 20th century liberal parlance. The Constitution limits the areas of government involvement, except by an arduous method of amendment - a structure diametrically opposed to the unlimited "living document" of liberal (progressive) politicians. Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:17:44 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1256#IDComment19733635 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19646692 ? No 'Nuremberg defense' for him and his cohorts? Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:29:21 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19646692 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19646209 Additional thought - distinction between citizens covered by Constitution and those not should be made, and the necessity of a Constitutional 'declaration of war' against enemies of the Republic (individual, group or country) would place Congress and country seriously and purposefully (and publically) in an unequivocal position (a politician"s nightmare) . No 'police actions' , no secret agendas, no obsequious embarrassments, no indeterminable plundering of the citizen's attention or treasure, all of which we have suffered these last fifty years. Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:25:48 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19646209 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=820#IDComment19435860 Germane to determinations is the definition of what you are -I offer the following in that attempt - AMERICAN I AM AN AMERICAN, NOT A GLOBALIST I AM A CAPITALIST, NOT A SOCIALIST I AM AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT A COLLECTIVIST I AM AN INDEPENDENT PERSON, NOT A GOVERNMENT DEPENDENT I AM AN ADHERENT OF PRINCIPLE, NOT A RELATIVIST I AM HOLDER OF VALUES, NOT A PRAGMATIST I AM AN OBJECTIVIST, NOT AN IRRATIONALIST I AM A REALIST, NOT A FANCIER I AM A DOER, NOT A WISHER I BELIEVE FREEDOM TO BE THE MOST DEAR OF ALL HUMAN VALUES, WITHOUT IT ALL ELSE IS FALSE Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:16:28 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=820#IDComment19435860 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18814848 At this time it is well to remember that the Bill of Rights are restrictions on the government not on individuals. The 10th Amendment itself is indicative that the government is limited (a republic) and that the Constitution is an exclusionary document ,different from every other government. Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:58:45 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18814848 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18778581 Considering the moral condition of congress trusting them to "do" a sales tax only , with clarity and conciseness, reminds me of the scorpion and frog story. It is also well to remember that the current corporate tax is really a "sales tax" as it is paid by the customer - the politician's perfect ploy. Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:34:43 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18778581 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18746282 Fair tax becomes another convoluted sales in addition to an income tax just like state taxes, snookered again, -- only a flat tax no exemptions, no deductions, one number to watch, only constitutionally authorized expenses, is a safe protection against government Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:10:53 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18746282 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18746060 Result - "30 is the new 15" Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:04:46 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment18746060