en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/654967 Comments by Balsamo http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment41103791 Well freegirard, nice work and nice try. Your acticle miss some points though; I wonder if you and most of Pat's critics did realy read his book in the first place. If not, they should. Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:19:08 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment41103791 http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-was-the-holocaust-inevitable-1016#IDComment34211647 It is not denying the holocaust to say that no serious historians still consider the "Wansee conference" as the foundation of the final solution. Even Yehuda Bauer has admited it. But the killing of jews started earlier. In Poland, as soon as in 1940, they were treated like animals. Mass murders began in 41, with the help of local populations in the Baltic States and in Ukraine on the russian front BEFORE the german army was halted; I understand that it is hard for anyone to get a clear view of these events as the "Official History" is so full of bullshits. The consequence is that it is easy to conclude with "unofficial bullshit". So maybe, peace could have prevented the Holocauste, but NOT the shoah !!! No war, and the Jews would all have been parked on the Island of Madagascar, after having been stolen from all their assets. Nice alternative for peoples who were living in Europe for centuries. Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:14:50 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-was-the-holocaust-inevitable-1016#IDComment34211647 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914441 But POLAND WAS ON ITS WAY. It had to be crushed. The plans were well prepared and the result of the Battle is the proof. So the question “Was the war necessary” ? Well no, if you would have whished to have a racist fascist power free of jews, disabled, mentally ills and full of Slaves working for their Aryian masters ruling from the Rhine to the Pacific. No if you would have enjoyed the teaching of racist theories in schools and university, as part of the “grandeur” of the western civilisation. Well, it is up to anyone to answer. (Sorry, English is not my mother tongue) Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:40:58 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914441 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914425 As far as the rest of your speculations, I am sorry to say that you are mostly wrong. One could say rightfully that Hitler’s claims on the Sudeten and even on Danzig were justified (Sorry to all the Poles) but it would not have been enough for Hitler in the end. First, he needed a frontier with Russia to get rid of it. Second, Poland was a creation of the treaty of Versaille. In Hitler’s it was German soil, part of german’s Lebensraum. It was an abomination full of Slavs. Germany had no colonies in Afrika (they were taken from it in 1918 ) It never was a colonial power as were France and Britain. Hitler never was interrested in Africa, what he wanted was the East! To the Volga and beyond and all its resources. His “oost-politiek” was a success. Wasn’t he allied with Hungary, Bulgary, Romania, Italy, friendly to Turkey and the Arabs ? Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:40:41 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914425 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914416 As far as the rest of your assertions are concerned, you are mostly wrong. 1./ Dunkirk wasn't a gift at all. In fact, Hitler who had not invented the Blitzkrieg (manstein, Guderian, Rommel did). He got scared of the speed of his army in France. France was supposed to have the most powerful army in Europe. They had more soldiers, more guns, and more tanks. Hitler feared a counter-attack. Only the panzers reached Dunkirk which by the way was still defended by 80.000 French soldiers. Hitler ordered the Panzer to wait for its infantry, nothing more. Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:40:26 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914416 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914398 It is also true that the Battle of Britain was mostly political. He wanted to weaken Britain in order to obtain peace with them. That was the problem; Hitler had no plans concerning England. So he first asked his Luftwaffe whose equipment was not fitting with its mission to bomber the ships, then to get rid of the RAF. That is then when Churchill made his bet to bomber Berlin. Hitler was so outraged (and stupid) that he changed the plans once again. Churchill was hoping that Hitler would divert his bomber to attack London and he was right. Civilians were scarified but the RAF was saved. Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:40:09 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914398 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914373 He could have invaded all France easy, get access to the Mediterranean sea, get the French fleet, invaded Gibraltar, ask for Morocco and broken the English forces in Africa, get the middle east oil in 1941 and the Suez Canal! AND HE WOULD HAVE WON THE WAR and RULE THE WORLD (with the oil reserves even the Rockefeller would have eaten in his hand!) THANK GOD, HE DIDN'T, because he wasn't interested in ruling the world, that's a fact. And you're right about that. Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:39:52 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914373 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914334 Some of your assertions are right but some are not. It is true that Hitler didn't want to make war to the West. However, if your read Mein Kampf, "Bolchevismus" was the ennemy as well as were the jews. The fact is that Hitler wasn't a genious at all. He was an uneducated narrowminded politician with almost no military skills. He wasn't prepare to fight a world war, that is for sure. The Germans were scared of the french army, one of the best in the world "on paper". And they knew they had no fleet to challenge the royal navy. So on those points you're right. In fact it was its biggest mistake, thanks for us Europeans. Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:39:19 +0000 http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068#IDComment33914334