en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/3557263 Comments by Aprecious1 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/12/02/voices-from-the-classroom-89/#IDComment232260330 We should hold an event in place of state patty’s. People are not going to be willing to stop drinking and partying on one of the biggest weekends to just do nothing. We would all have to put our ideas together to make this a good event. Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:41:09 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/12/02/voices-from-the-classroom-89/#IDComment232260330 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/12/02/voices-from-the-classroom-89/#IDComment232260241 Even if we got a large portion of our school to do it, that would be better than none. I would not say that it could never be done but it would take a lot of work and also a lot of effort on the whole student body to participate and make it successful. We would have to draw the attention of people to notice the reason why we are doing it. It seems unrealistic at this point but actually doing it may be another story. The only reason why people would not want to do it is because it is a tradition and everything. Cancelling state patty’s couldn’t hurt us. We would not be getting any bad news out of cancelling the day. People would be disappointed but if it’s something that we really want to do then it can be done. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy state patty’s but if cancelling it means we could gain some positivity for our school then why not do it. Convincing people to participate in the cancellation of state patty’s is tough. This is a huge school and many people have different opinions about this holiday and wanting to cancel it for one year. One question that I have though, what would we do instead of drinking and partying? Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:40:53 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/12/02/voices-from-the-classroom-89/#IDComment232260241 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/12/02/voices-from-the-classroom-89/#IDComment232260151 I definitely think that if we sacrifice state patty’s day, it would be a positive thing for our school. The biggest problem would be getting everyone to do it. That is one of the biggest weekends up here and not doing it for one year would be very hard. I don’t really think that everyone would be down to do it. People don’t really want to stop partying but we would all have to keep in mind that we are doing this for a good outcome. Just like in class, the boy was asking Sam why we needed to sacrifice something and I think that would be the attitude of a lot of people. If we were to cancel state patty’s day this year, I would be willing to do it. It would not kill us to cancel it for one year. We would just be losing out on some partying but we would not be losing anything truly important. Cancelling state patty’s would definitely get some recognition. We are known for this holiday and cancelling it would get some attention that could be good for us. Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:40:37 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/12/02/voices-from-the-classroom-89/#IDComment232260151 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/10/voices-from-the-classroom-71/#IDComment220542647 The media is not what is making students riot, it is the fact that people just have strong feelings about the situation and media of any source is not making things better. Now tonight there is a candle light ceremony for the child abuse victims. Let’s see if any of the news reports cover that story. If not, then we specifically know that they are here to show people the bad side of Penn State and they don’t want to show the good things that we are doing in light of the situation. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:28:22 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/10/voices-from-the-classroom-71/#IDComment220542647 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/10/voices-from-the-classroom-71/#IDComment220542523 Because of the media, we are losing out on things that don’t even contribute to making Penn State better. Everyone now has an opinion on our school and most people don’t even have the story straight. I think that if the media was to leave us alone for a second, we could have some type of peace on campus. I know during the game tomorrow, the media will be out and about trying to build a story. On the other hand, I believe the riots kind of would have still happened if the media was not on campus or if it wasn’t for Facebook or twitter. Students would have already been upset that Joe Pa was fired if would have just read the email from the university instead of watching it on espn. Whenever the students feel strongly about something there is a reaction from them good or bad. The riots definitely came out of anger and the fact that a van was tipped over showed that the students don’t really want the news stations to be here. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:28:05 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/10/voices-from-the-classroom-71/#IDComment220542523 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/10/voices-from-the-classroom-71/#IDComment220542410 I am kind of on the fence about the riots happening. I would definitely say that the media is kind of irritating the situation. Things have been all over Facebook, twitter, the news, and in papers, that it is just making things even worst. It’s news vans all over campus and they won’t really leave people alone. I think that the media is pressuring the board of trustees to make quick decisions such as Joe Pa being fired without even discussion first. Honestly, I am tired of seeing the media here. I know it is a big situation that should be put in the news so that the public is notified but it is not being shown right. The media is making our school look even worse than it is. To sell a story, they will take the worst images of Penn State and put that in papers. Now because of the media, a lot of people are misinformed or they have these bad views of Penn State. I just recently heard Johnson and Johnson took away funding for Thon. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:45 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/10/voices-from-the-classroom-71/#IDComment220542410 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/03/voices-from-the-classroom-67/#IDComment217120425 I think that every young person should start change with themselves. In order to make a movement, we have to make a change within ourselves. I think I can do this by starting with simple things like reading the newspaper every day to keep myself updated with what goes in the news. I can check on updates on different websites or do some research on popular issues that go on in the world. I can also join different organizations that can help educate myself more. Sat, 5 Nov 2011 03:16:44 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/03/voices-from-the-classroom-67/#IDComment217120425 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/03/voices-from-the-classroom-67/#IDComment217120338 I think it may be easier for young people to make a movement now because many people are trying to make a change for the future. That is what everyone’s motto is about now and days. We all think about how our future will be as leaders and we look at our environment. As a young person myself, I look at the things around me and I think about my future and the things I need to do for myself and for the next generations to come after me. I believe that younger people have the drive to deal with new issues but need the experience and wisdom from the older generation. This could be another setback for younger people making a movement. Out of everything, I think that a movement made by younger people could possibly be a success. We are smart and it would just take a little bit of education, and a lot of stamina and determination to make a change. I notice that a lot of younger people are becoming leaders and we are capable of making a change for the better. Sat, 5 Nov 2011 03:16:29 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/03/voices-from-the-classroom-67/#IDComment217120338 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/03/voices-from-the-classroom-67/#IDComment217120250 I believe for young people to be involved with a protest and for it to work, everyone would have to be first educated on the problem. I know as a young person myself, I do not know much about the problems that occur in the world. For instance, the occupy Penn State is something that is going on here at Penn State and I do not really know anything about it. Not only that, but I think young people don’t care as much as older people. We do not care much about the things that affect us directly. I do think that a younger generation’s protest could be successful though. Younger people are more open to other people these days. When I look around at my generation, people still have those traditional values but younger people are more open to change than the older generation. One setback of making a movement work is that younger people have a lot of opinion. Although young people are open to change, their opinions about things are strong and may conflict with others that have different opinions. Sat, 5 Nov 2011 03:16:11 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/03/voices-from-the-classroom-67/#IDComment217120250 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-55/#IDComment213516126 As far as I know, they don’t really bother anyone. They seem as if they just come over here to get the labor jobs that are at the lowest scale of pay just to support themselves. Why have hate on someone who is just trying to make money just like you? And on top of that, they get the worst jobs, so what is the big deal? I guess maybe the fact that they are here illegally, Americans dislike the fact that they are able to just come right over and get jobs. It may be a territorial issue that may be the biggest problem for people. I just try to look at it in a different perspective. Everyone wants a better life so why not look at them as just trying to make a way for themselves so that they can have a better future? Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:03:52 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-55/#IDComment213516126 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-55/#IDComment213516040 Personally, if I was to put myself in an immigrant’s shoes, I would come to America too. There are a lot of things that go on in other countries that have such an effect on their daily lives. We as Americans don’t have to deal with it. If I was an immigrant, I would most likely do it the legal way. It might be harder to get to the U.S. but I would try hard to make my way over here in order to better my life or the lives of the people that are in my family. I just wonder why people dislike immigrants so much. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:03:36 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-55/#IDComment213516040 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-55/#IDComment213515553 Personally, I as of right now, I do not really have a problem with immigrants living in America. Immigrants come over here to gain a better life and it is quite obvious that their lives in their home coutry is not one that is so great. Looking at the conditions that they come from, people are not even able to live on the amount of money that they make each day. They do it because it is really their only choice. Now I don’t really know why immigrants come over here illegally but I feel like they should stop doing it. They know it is wrong from the beginning so why would they even do it in the first place? If caught, I believe that immigrants would get in more trouble or even die if people see them coming over illegally. I think that if immigrants want to come over here, it should not be that much of a problem. They do all the jobs that we as American’s don’t want to do so why not allow them to live over here? Americans want to complain about them being over here but they don’t ever complain when they are hiring them for the cheapest pay that they can give. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:02:15 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-55/#IDComment213515553 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-51/#IDComment210691091 I think that those white people that may “act black” or black people who “act white” comes from the places that they have grown up in. A black person who has grown up in a predominantly white area may talk like those around them and act like the surrounding people. The white kid that grows up in an all black area my act like the black kids around him. Depending where a person grows up, they may talk differently than other people that has not grown up in the same place as them. The stereotype of being a poser is a bit annoying to me. Everyone of a certain race does not have to act and talk the same and just because they may act and talk a certain way when they are with people of a different race, does not mean they are a poser. That may in fact just be the way they talk and act. Anybody who is in fact posing and just trying to purposely act like the people that they hang around really needs to stop. Anybody that acts like themselves would get along better with people if they don’t try and pretend to be someone they’re not. People like that seem to be a very unsure about themselves and are probably uncomfortable when they are around people of another race. I think it’s good that people are trying to learn about other cultures but faking it makes no sense at all. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:24:02 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-51/#IDComment210691091 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-51/#IDComment210690999 Personally, I do not believe that anyone is a poser if they hang out with people who are not their own race. People become friends for the simple fact that they have things in common with one another. People seem to have this stereotype that if a black person hangs out with white people or a white person that hangs out with black people; they act or try to be like the people that they are hanging out with. I don’t see a problem with other races hanging out with each other. It just shows that how much we have progressed that some people are able to be comfortable around other races and consider them their friends. I hang out with two Latino girls and an Asian girl. We are all friends because we have so much in common and we get along well. We are not trying to be like one another, we are just being ourselves around each other. I don’t think that anyone could say that another person is a poser without knowing them first. We may see what’s on the outside but not know this person or anything that they like. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:23:43 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-51/#IDComment210690999 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207534463 They are not worried about all that. They are just concerned with being teenagers and doing the things that teens do such as driving and getting their license. Things like this show that life is possible during those special situations of disadvantages that some people may go through. The girls see just as free as an individual person that is in one body. They are compromising and making things work for the both of them so that they are comfortable to live their life. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:13:29 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207534463 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207534396 Another aspect of freedom that the two girls have, it mental freedom. They are not really caught up in the head about their situation. I know me, and I know that I would not really be able to deal with such a situation like that. They are not allowing their disability to get it their way not one bit. They don’t seem shy or have low confidence because of the fact that they are conjoined. I find the twins interesting and two very strong individuals. They are comfortable in their own body and that is something that many people who do not have any type of disability can say about themselves. The fact that they are able to talk about what they plan to do in life and about boys to their friends, shows that they are mentally stable. It seems as though everyone else around them is worrying about so many things like mother hood, their love life, and the types of job that they will get in the future that they fail to see that the two girls are not even on that page in their life now. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:13:13 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207534396 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207534307 I believe the idea of freedom is shaped differently when it comes to the two twins. Both of these girls are conjoined and it physically showed that they are not as free as other people who are just in one body. If one twin does something, the other twin automatically has to do the same thing. I believe they use they use this idea of being free to do whatever they plan to do as they grow up to be women. They do not allow things to get in their way of living a perfectly normal life like everyone else around them. I think they limit this freedom a little bit. When the woman was talking about different talk shows asking for appearances and things, they were free to say no. She also stated how they did not owe the world an explanation. In my opinion, to me, they don’t really owe anything either. I find it a little annoying when people claim you have to explain your situation to everyone else. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:12:52 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/12/consider-the-issue-of-freedom-vs-determinism/#IDComment207534307 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-36/#IDComment204458189 She would most likely get strange looks from people if she was walking down the street with a long wool skirt on and a turtle neck. I guess that females in general should dress in a way that they wouldn’t be judged or treated in a certain way where it is unfair. Females also should not expect to be treated a certain way either. But on the other hand, if you don’t care about what anyone else will say about you, you can dress any kind of way you want. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:16:49 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-36/#IDComment204458189 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-36/#IDComment204458086 . Will you feel bad if someone says something to you or about you when you show some skin or will you be completely comfortable no matter what another person has to say because you do not listen to other people’s opinions? I believe that it should not be in anyone’s place to treat a woman a certain way because of the way that she dresses. If she wants to show what she has then let her do it. It is not you in that position so why should it even matter. Also, any woman that is expecting to be treated a certain way should not think like that either. You never know what you may get out of people. Having this type of attitude will prevent you from being disappointed in the end when you are not treated the way you expected. I guess a female would look just as strange if she walked around a little too covered up all the time. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:16:32 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-36/#IDComment204458086 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-36/#IDComment204457834 The way a woman dresses says a lot about the way people will treat her. Some may say her clothes are too tight or too short and in the end, start to call her certain degrading names. I believe that just because a woman may show too much cleavage or something, people should not single her out and make her feel less than everyone else. I do not think that women that come out the house with anything short or tight want to be treated with disrespect. They may think there is truly nothing wrong with showing a little skin but sometimes it may in fact be too much that they are showing. You would have to also think that how could anyone respect a women that does this all the time. It is common for a women to get negative feedback when she dresses in a provocative way. She may be thinking in her head that she is sexy but to people that don’t know her may think she has no morals or doesn’t have any self-respect. Being a female and looking at this question, you have to look at it in different ways. Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:15:46 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-36/#IDComment204457834