en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/295146 Comments by Alternative http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163571552 And guess what that Corporation was started by a priest in 1953 as a school for 12 kids and he thought them about business and alternative ideas and they went on to create this shining example of what's possible when you buck the system which in those days was fascism, very close to where we are now. Fascism as in government working for corporations and a police state to support them. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:04:55 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163571552 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163569856 You must be listening to yourself as you read others. I said Progressive as in Open Minded Forward thinking unlike what we have here. Like it or not the founders were going directly against the conservative status quo in it's day. I said nothing about socialism or communism. You are paranoid. You are the one incapable of understanding what you read and that makes me wonder what you understand and how you interpret the declaration of independence, the constitution, the bill of rights etc. As far as I am concerned we could have had Thomas Paine but we got a watered down version. I realize it is too upsetting for you not to be able to pigeon hole me into one of your ism boxes but sorry I am not a follower of any of these stupid flawed ideologies and that goes for capitalism, free markets and this failed government system as well. People in this country spend way too much time praying to the god of money and finding ways to get around laws and suing others. That is nothing to be proud of. Correct me if I am wrong, are you part of the crowd that blindly still believes that lowering taxes and deregulating will fix everything? I happen to believe that we should raise wages, raise taxes on those who can most afford it or change to a consumption tax, impose import tariffs to protect and rebuild our manufacturing and we should spend massive amounts to rebuild our infrastructure, modernize, bring in energy efficiency, develop clean renewable energies, stop subsidizing big agra, which is subsidizing fast food, which is making us sick,which is largely responsible for high healthcare costs, cut down on meat consumption, It's not the end of the world trust me I've done it for 40 years. There are many things we should be embracing. In WWII the govt forced private industries to retoll from autos to build airplanes. They said it couldn't be done, would take years, and would onl;y produce so much. The private sector was wrong. We doubled their estimates and did it in months. Never doubt the people' s resolve and what can be accomplished when working in unison for a common cause. We have a common cause now. It;'s dealing with climate change, man made or not it's here. It's time to retool to CHEAP, clean renewable energy. It's time to fix our inefficient buildings, it's time to rebuild manufacturing. Screw the companies and CEOs chasing the cheapest labor and the most lax govts on polluters. They should be put in jail for treason. And like it or not we should teach kids about all kinds of systems, religions, ideologies and we should not be AFRAID. It's their turn and the more they know the better we all are. We certainly don't have all of the answers. Or are you one of these book banning book burning type. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:59:16 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163569856 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163550191 One thing is for sure Breitbart certainly attracts a bunch dumb arses who are not willing to entertain anything that is different from their close-minded thinking. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:55:51 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163550191 http://tv.breitbart.com/hear-breitbarts-first-reaction-to-weiner-resignation-press-conference/#IDComment163550110 Taking down Acorn and Planned Parenthood amongst others is nothing to be proud of. That's about as worthy as Reagan invading Grenada. Fortunately for the world men have a short life span to do damage on this earth. History will relegate Breitbart to the same dust bin as Joe McCarthy, just another mean, misguided, bought up tool/fool. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:55:35 +0000 http://tv.breitbart.com/hear-breitbarts-first-reaction-to-weiner-resignation-press-conference/#IDComment163550110 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163548912 Again you don't know what you are talking about. So I will repeat myself again. Take off your blinders. We are talking about Mondragon Cooperative corporations. $90 Billion in revenue and doing extremely well. Worker owned. They started with a 3 to 1 salary rule and went to 6 to 1 to compete in the market place. That means that if the lowest guy is making $40K then the top guy can only make $240K. If the top guy wants more he needs to pay the lowest guys more. It works. They are happy productive, healthy citizens, they have their own banks, health clinics and universities. They take care of their own. People come from all over the world to study their ,business model. They also have another interesting model. Instead of doing mergers and acquisitions which are always paid forby eliminating workers, they do the opposite, they break up groups that are getting too big and unmanageable (too big to fail). Is this too scary for you? Are you capable of entertaining alternatives or are you blindingly convinced that this failing and bankrupt country and it's systems are perfect. If we have the best ideas and systems then please explain to me why we keep having these bubbles and recession and depressions and they keep happening sooner and sooner? I know blame it on the fictitious and not in power ideas and crowds. God forbid you should ever take responsibility for maybe being wrong about anything. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:51:21 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163548912 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163545096 Actually this country and it's founders were very progressive and it's been downhill ever since. I guess you read it but you didn't understand it. Yes Spain and Italy are having economic problems but these cooperative corporations are doing quite well. Get it! But hey don't bother learning anything after all this is the best system in the world and there's no problem, we are doing fantastically, aren't we? Do you know how dumb you sound when you call another person, whose ideas you disagree with, a commie? Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:38:10 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163545096 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163542968 Are you kidding. You are still holding on to that misguided fear monger communism crap. Like this country would ever be communist or we should ever worry about Cuba invading us. Stop being so scared. Open your mind, have some courage and read all sides it won't hurt I promise and you may actually formulate some new ideas. No one has all of the answers. It's not a us and them. We are all earthlings, part of the human race and we are supposed to love our neighbors. This planet is in trouble and we better unite to fix it or we will perish together. Unions are not the problem, corruption is the problem. And yes corruption is also found in unions. Should we get rid of banks because we found some corruption in them? Did you ever think that maybe you have been indoctrinated by spending so much time in the military and maybe you are the one that needs to be deprogrammed! Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:31:07 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163542968 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163536558 California has it's problems, which state doesn't. But last time I looked it's economy is still large enough to be listed with the top 10 countries greatest economies. It could separate and do quite well on it's own. I also recently read that it is 40% more energy efficient than the other states. I am sure that won't come in handy for the future. Yeah just keep spewing out that racist bigot crap like that really matters. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:07:48 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163536558 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163533891 I try not to follow any ism or ist groups, I am definitely not a fan or organized religion and you sir with your silly patriot moniker which like all of the people and their support the troops stickers only says one thing to me. You are afraid and that makes you dangerous. And please spare me the Provide Jobs. The rich 1% which I am sure you are not pasrt of or you wouldn't be here but yet you vehemently protect, got a trillion in tax breaks and they didn't create any jobs. The banks got trillions and they didn't loan it out. So yeah juts keep attacking me because I care more for people than I do for corporations (that have more rights than you) and the hypcritical (there is and will never be) free market and the unsustainable ponzi scheme that capitalism is. (It's based on perpetual growth which is physically impossible in a finite sphere). Where is your originality? You are just regurgitating not well thought out crap that I am sure you heard on Fox. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:57:24 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163533891 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163529766 And then again maybe you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Check out the Mondragon Cooperative corporations in Spain. Extremely successful, worker owned, unionized, with a voluntary 6 to 1 salary disparity rule. They have their own banks, health clinics and Universities and have managed to sail though the last few recessions. Why because they understand that people and a healthy vibrant community should come first, and profits follow. And they are not the only model, there's the same type of cooperative corporations around Bologna Italy. You and your kind are really fascists and your thinking is destroying America. The right conservative thinking has been in charge all along and you have destroyed this nation, raped it's land, plundered and mismanaged it's resources and you want to blame it on the progressive left who is never in charge. They just fight for better rights for people and to protect the environment. Well over half of us don't want you to take the country back, we want it to go forward to better ideas. We only have one earth and you better start caring and sharing. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:42:08 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163529766 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9NT67E00&show_article=1#IDComment163515018 Most of you puritanical hypocrite morons would not withstand the media scrutiny. Yes Anthony screwed up but you only know about it because the media (with some help from certain special interests Andrew B...) is spending all their time looking for crap like that for all of you instead of looking into who is stealing billions and who is profiting by lying to start wars. Only the people lose when they lose the Eliot Spitzers and the Anthony Weiners. But I don't expect a mob that always votes against their best interest to understand any of this. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:03:01 +0000 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9NT67E00&show_article=1#IDComment163515018 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163510873 Oh Wow! another Aynal Rand Devotee without an original thought. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:49:16 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163510873 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163486878 I am sure you are right, we shouldn't be teaching worker's rights or labor's struggle, civil rights, human rights and all of the hard fought battles won by we the people. God forbid people learned community organizing or organizing unions, we shouldn't give the people any ammunition to fight the corporate masters, king/CEOs and the banksters. We don't want the people to have a leg up on getting better wages, that would cut in to the corporations' hard fought/stolen best profits ever, we should reserve that time instead to teach about creationism. And if I may add, I hear that the Texas board that decides what goes into school books for the whole country has decided for all of you that from now on your kids will not have to learn about Thomas Jefferson. Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:40:01 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2011/06/17/indoctrination-fridays-california-federation-of-teachers-works-unionizing-propaganda-into-curriculum/#IDComment163486878 http://biggovernment.com/chorner/2011/05/18/media-gift-republicans-pickens-new-subsidy-and-the-circular-firing-squad/#IDComment153565625 Oh snap out of it! There's enough Solar in the Southwest, Wind in the prairie, geothermal in our soil and waters, wave and tidal power to more than power America many folds over at the same cost as today's dirty carbon and by the time we get 1000GW up and running, it will be much cheaper than all others. This, unlike building nuclear plants, can be financed and accomplished in just a few years without tax payer guaranteed loans. The only thing holding this back is corrupt politicians and their biased media propaganda machines and the status quo dirty carbon and nuclear industries who are more interested in their short term profits than the long term health and well being of this country. They are traitors in the long run. You can deny this all you want and you can scream all you want. The facts are there, the technology already exists and deep in our hearts we all know that these are the right healthy, sustainable, ecological, cost efficient solutions going forward and for the long run. Wed, 18 May 2011 19:28:27 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/chorner/2011/05/18/media-gift-republicans-pickens-new-subsidy-and-the-circular-firing-squad/#IDComment153565625