en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/595686 Comments by AlanL http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26136232 Thank you Alisdair, and I accept you did not intend to be insulting. All too often people don't like other people's views, but that's not surprising. What IS so surprising is the manner of the reply. During my life I have merely given my view, and hopefully without bias. A reasoned argument is a sound argument, be it right or wrong. I don't agree that UKIP denigrates the system, but I accept your different view. As an ardent reader of the Bruges Group site, particularly the Euro-Creep by Robert Oulds, I am often astounded how much we are now European without a by your leave. As Robert says..."The UK has to be obey judgments made in Brussels which override decisions made by our own democratic institutions. What is more the British taxpayer has to pay Brussels £ billions each year for the ‘privilege’ of being bound by EU law", and I would like to be asked if I want to change that. Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:18:26 +0000 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26136232 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26132504 Well, Alisdair, and who are you to tell me about any grasp on reality I may or may not be displaying? You say that simply because you disagree with me, or rather that I don't follow your reasoning. St Augustine said...“It was pride that changed angels into devils; it is humility that makes men as angels.” You have no humility, you have no manners, you are ignorant and intolerant. What a sad person you are and what a sad life you must live that you have to be so insulting at a moment's notice. As a matter of fact I was lied to by Edward Heath, back in the early 70s, when I supported a trading community, and I have never once been given the chance to vote on the EU since. Now, at the age of 70 I support a party that hopefully will simply ASK us what we want, not tell us what we WILL do! Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:24:57 +0000 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26132504 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26131024 alisdair · 5 hours ago You said.."I hope you don't think I'm being rude, but you obviously have little to no understanding of how the Parliament works" and now you tell ME I am uneducated and vote blindly oblivious to the facts. Well, I suppose somebody like you who has all the brains is bound to be far superior to me. Of course, that doesn't mean you have any common sense, because clearly you haven't. Education is an experience that has a formative effect on the mind and character, I wonder when your mind and character will develop? Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:04:13 +0000 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26131024 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26128355 Do you know, I could swear that a UKIP MEP, one Nigel Farage, turned up at the European Parliament and in a wonderful speech took the lying sordid Godon Brown to pieces while he sat there with a face like a slapped arse. And in that speech he encapsulated why we should all support UKIP in any election we can. And so I will. Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:25:00 +0000 http://www.indhome.com/2009/07/01/ukip-forms-new-european-grouping/#IDComment26128355