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<title>Agmates Rural News : What The Greenies are saying about The Victorian Bush fires and Us Idiots.</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/13/what-the-greenies-are-saying-about-the-victorian-bush-fires-and-us-idiots/#IDComment15397795</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Jeff,    Thanks mate and I and all the Agmates regulars are aware of that.     Rather than go into a full Global warming debate with Peter, i just wanted to speak on the level that even if he and the CSIRO are correct how does using the main thrust of cutting Australia&amp;#039;s Greenhouse gase emissions prevent another black Saturday if the they don&amp;#039;t deal with the practical things that can prevent it -     Commonsense practical things like preventing the build up of combustible material in our forest and having adequate firebreaks in and around state forests.    Blaming Global warming is sparing at windmills at best. I&amp;#039;d expect that from the national secretary of the firefighters Union - practical solutions.     Leave the hot air to the politicians and air head academics like Clive hamilton. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : What The Greenies are saying about The Victorian Bush fires and Us Idiots.</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/13/what-the-greenies-are-saying-about-the-victorian-bush-fires-and-us-idiots/#IDComment15397028</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Peter,  Mate thank you for sharing that with the Agmates community. Your assumption that halving Australia&amp;#039;s greenhouse gas emissions is the number one priority in preventing future bushfire disasters is curious.  Lets say we did that. Australia accounts for 1.3% of global emissions, so the net result would be a global reduction of 0.65% of global emissions.  Even if what the CSIRO is says about the increase of the prevalence of bushfires is correct, will cutting our global emissions by 0.65% change this? The answer is an obvious no. That is of course unless your suggesting that CO2 is localized and we can lower the concentrations just over Australia. No you would not be suggesting that.  It is curious that you as the National Secretary of the firefighters union would be going down this global warming CO2 track?  As has been discussed at length here and on other posts by Agmates members from all over Australia, I would have thought that you of all people would have been looking at practical measures, like maintained firebreaks and controlled burns to manage the situation instead of chasing the CO2 windmills.  Curious indeed. and very disheartening for the millions of australians that are hoping that the appropriate steps will be taken to manage our environment to the extent that this never happens again.  I&amp;#039;m also curious as to why you would not be looking to the Western Australian experience. they have managed forest fuel loads by controlled burns since 1956. In that 53 year period they have not lost 1 person to bushfires. does not that tell you something?  Cheers - Agmates founder Steve Truman. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Agmates Community News Forum Wednesday 18th February 2009</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/18/agmates-community-news-forum-wednesday-18th-february-2009/#IDComment15395802</link>
<description>Thanks mate - good to hear,  Hey guys just be warned over the course of the next few hours we will be switching off &amp;#039;killing intense debate and installing a program called JS-Kit.   So if weird things happen while your at it you&amp;#039;ll know why.  This thing is awesome (if it works)  You can edit your text, Bold, Italic, quotes, just like a word document,  a button that inserts links, and wait for it  ... you can even upload up to 5 photos with your comments and install a Youtube video.  Naah only kidding ..... that would be a dream come true.  Cheers Steve  </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Agmates Community News Forum Wednesday 18th February 2009</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/18/agmates-community-news-forum-wednesday-18th-february-2009/#IDComment15388802</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day JeffBBrrrrrr,    Hope your not reporting in from there. :) </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Agmates Community News Forum Wednesday 11th February 2009</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/11/agmates-community-news-forum-wednesday-11th-february-2009/#IDComment15373564</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Jeff,  great news - we are dumping intense debate today.  Have found something 1,000 times better - (and it works) will be done today - I&amp;#039;ll post an article shortly.  I&amp;#039;m so happy. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>IntenseDebate Blog : Lijit Introduces IntenseDebate Comments In Search Results</title>
<link>http://blog.intensedebate.com/2009/02/01/lijit-introduces-intensedebate-comments-in-search-results/#IDComment15369253</link>
<description> G&amp;#039;day Michael,  By all means try and sort it out for all those poor souls who are having exactly the same problems that we have experienced - but don&amp;#039;t worry about us. I&amp;#039;m removing intense debate fro the Agmates blog today.  I&amp;#039;ve broken my cardinal run which is if we use a software program and it does not work like the developers say it will and we then get poor or virtually no tech support we get rid it.  That has been the case with intense debate and I&amp;#039;ve finally come to my senses.  A most unsatisfactory experience.  Cheers - your Agmate - Steve </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Katter, Windsor, Oakeshott, Cast Their Political Futures With Kevin Rudd &amp; Labor</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/katter-windsor-oakeshott-cast-their-political-futures-with-kevin-rudd-labor/#IDComment15333151</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Jeff,  Great link mate - I&amp;#039;ll use it in tomorrows forum.   Cheers - Steve </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/katter-windsor-oakeshott-cast-their-political-futures-with-kevin-rudd-labor/#IDComment15333151</guid>
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<title>Jangro.com: Affiliate Marketing, SEO, Web Development : Evaluating Blog Comment Systems</title>
<link>http://dev.jangro.com/a/2008/03/28/evaluating-blog-comment-systems/#IDComment15332760</link>
<description>Hey Scott,  You&amp;#039;ll be interestedvto know that I just tried to post that comment and it just sat there spinning the little arrows and thinking, after a couple of minutes I closed the page went back to the email and clicked through and posted again   This time no problem. This really is a terrible piece of software. Our community fortunatly thinks its just a huge joke how bad it is.  But we&amp;#039;ve had enough. Worse of all is being ignore by the ID tech guys. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Jangro.com: Affiliate Marketing, SEO, Web Development : Evaluating Blog Comment Systems</title>
<link>http://dev.jangro.com/a/2008/03/28/evaluating-blog-comment-systems/#IDComment15332719</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Scott,  The links work sometimes either way on Agmates too. But here is a laugh i just left a comment for Michael on his ID blog. posted a link with http: - clicked on it 4 times and it worked - the 5th time it mangled the link and got a 404 error on the site linked to.  I&amp;#039;ve had it, am going to dump it.   Just a question - what do you know about the JS-Kit system? </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Jangro.com: Affiliate Marketing, SEO, Web Development : Evaluating Blog Comment Systems</title>
<link>http://dev.jangro.com/a/2008/03/28/evaluating-blog-comment-systems/#IDComment15332472</link>
<description>We have had intense debate installed now for over 4 weeks and its been nothing but a nightmare. Incredible amount of bugs - mangles inserted links, restricts characters submitted, just plain won&amp;#039;t accept some readers comments, the sign up process is incredibly difficult. But worst of all is the support or should I say the lack of it. 12 days ago emailed support after posting on their help forum for a week and the only response back was other bloggers with the same problems and no support. Finally got an email 5 days later from tech support Michael Koenig apologizing for the delay and promising to take action - now 7 days later still heard nothing. I&amp;#039;m not persisting anymore - all I can say is if that is the best they can do they will go broke and deserve too. Satisfaction rating out of 10 is a very unhappy 0. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>IntenseDebate Blog : Lijit Introduces IntenseDebate Comments In Search Results</title>
<link>http://blog.intensedebate.com/2009/02/01/lijit-introduces-intensedebate-comments-in-search-results/#IDComment15332323</link>
<description>Ah thought so - you know exactly what the problem is because it does it on your own company blog. I clicked on the link 4 times and it worked and the 5th time it was mangled and all I got was a 404 error - thats a joke. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>IntenseDebate Blog : Lijit Introduces IntenseDebate Comments In Search Results</title>
<link>http://blog.intensedebate.com/2009/02/01/lijit-introduces-intensedebate-comments-in-search-results/#IDComment15332275</link>
<description>We have had intense debate installed now for over 4 weeks and its been nothing but a nightmare.     Incredible amount of bugs - mangles inserted links, restricts characters submitted, just plain won&amp;#039;t accept some readers comments, the sign up process is incredibly difficult.     But worst of all is the support or should I say the lack of it. 12 days ago emailed support after posting on their help forum for a week and the only response back was other bloggers with the same problems and no support. Finally got an email 5 days later from tech support Michael Koenig (author of this blog) apologizing for the delay and promising to take action - now 7 days later still heard nothing.     All I can say is if that is the best you can do you will go broke and deserve too. Satisfaction rating out of 10 is a very unhappy 0.    We&amp;#039;ll try this link for example just posted on Agmates - intense debate mangled it like it always does. Lets see if it works on your own company blog.    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25067110-601,00.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,2519...&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,2519...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Business Opportunity, Instant Cash Flow, Create a Substantial Off Farm Income</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/16/business-opportunity-instant-cash-flow-create-a-substantial-off-farm-income/#IDComment15286394</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Agmates,  The above post by Biz Opportunities is Opportunistic and human spam. I&amp;#039;ve left it there to show you the online power of Agmates.  The article was published just 7 hours ago. If you google &amp;#039;Instant cash flow&amp;#039; on a world wide search the article is at #6 on page one out of 302,000 ranked pages.  Google &amp;quot;Create a Substantial Off Farm Income &amp;quot; the agmates employment ad is #1 on page 1, and the above article is #2 behind it out of a possible world wide search of 239,000 sites ranked.  Try googling just &amp;#039;Off Farm Income&amp;#039; the above article is #6 page 1 out of a possible 689,000 searches world wide.  Google &amp;#039;farm Income&amp;#039; world wide there is a possible 11,300,000 possible searches - the above article is #9 page 1.  But just to prove that we are&amp;#039; human&amp;#039; after all, google &amp;#039;Business Opportunity&amp;#039; and the are a possible 84,200,000 sites listed and we only come up on at #166 on page 17.  All in 7 hours of publishing.  By the way we have had very good inquiry re the Business Representatives roles.  Cheers - your Agmate Steve  </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Agmates Community News Forum Weekend 14 / 15th February 2009</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/agmates-community-news-forum-weekend-14-15th-february-2009/#IDComment15263680</link>
<description>SueM,      Intense debate is up to its old tricks of mangling the inserted links.      Here we&amp;#039;ll give it a go as a tiny URL as it is to a very good Agmates Video      &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/bh3r6c&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/bh3r6c&lt;/a&gt;    Cheers - Steve </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Agmates Community News Forum Weekend 14 / 15th February 2009</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/agmates-community-news-forum-weekend-14-15th-february-2009/#IDComment15263502</link>
<description>Exactly SueM,  Anybody who has ever had a fire bin or burnt the rubbish will know that - but apparently the greenies have never burnt their rubbish - then again I suppose they can&amp;#039;t in the middle of the leafy burbs. :) </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Katter, Windsor, Oakeshott, Cast Their Political Futures With Kevin Rudd &amp; Labor</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/katter-windsor-oakeshott-cast-their-political-futures-with-kevin-rudd-labor/#IDComment15151902</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day John,  Yeh I&amp;#039;m not sure how many of Bob&amp;#039;s supporters in Kennedy would be all to thrilled about him throwing his political lot in with Kevin Rudd? They are pretty much a staunch conservative bunch up in that part of the world. </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Katter, Windsor, Oakeshott, Cast Their Political Futures With Kevin Rudd &amp; Labor</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/katter-windsor-oakeshott-cast-their-political-futures-with-kevin-rudd-labor/#IDComment15151762</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day JeffT,  Does he happen to mention in his communication to the voters that he backed the stimulus package &amp;amp; racking up $200m National debt?  Interesting the beaches and Koala&amp;#039;s get funding before the hospital. What were we saying about trees being more important than people?  I wonder how many National party voters who supported him as an independent in Lyne know that he has cast his political lot in with Labor?  Perhaps you could email the article to a few for circulation? </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : Katter, Windsor, Oakeshott, Cast Their Political Futures With Kevin Rudd &amp; Labor</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/14/katter-windsor-oakeshott-cast-their-political-futures-with-kevin-rudd-labor/#IDComment15150406</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day John,  Good comment mate. I&amp;#039;ll be very interested to see what those Agmates who are in these 3 MP&amp;#039;s electorates think of their members decision to back the stimulus.  As I said, if it goes pear shaped they must be held to the same account that the Rudd government will be at the next Federal poll.  Very courageous on their behalf I would have thought, unless they just thought we would not notice. Time will no doubt tell.  </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : What The Greenies are saying about The Victorian Bush fires and Us Idiots.</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/13/what-the-greenies-are-saying-about-the-victorian-bush-fires-and-us-idiots/#IDComment15145669</link>
<description>G&amp;#039;day Syd,  Mate you are right, I&amp;#039;ve just gone back and read your article thoroughly, I must admit - I like charlie read the first part of your comment and when you started quoting stats i was put off straight away.  I apologize for saying you trivialized the tragic deaths and pleased that you are not one of the heartless bludgers who can&amp;#039;t &amp;quot;see the human suffering for the trees&amp;quot;  Mate I do however think you way off the mark criticizing Andrew Bolt in this instance. I know he is a right winged radical with sometimes extreme views. But if you had read any of his articles this week he has been in a state of shock. He lives in the areas of these bushfires and all he is saying and not until late in the week out of respect for those affected communities is that they must start control burning to protect the people.  I&amp;#039;m pleased to see that you realize that we must use controlled burning in our State forests to manage them. No Agmate is prescribing burning for burnings sake.  If you look at it what we are saying and not only in Victoria but right across the country is that the conservations groups who mauntain a hard line &amp;quot;lock up and leave&amp;quot; policy are killing not only us, but our flora and fauna.  It is niave of you to claim that these no burn conservationists have not influenced State &amp;amp; Local governments. I mean the situation is so riduclous that in those worst affected shires you are fined for collecting wood off the sides of the roads. look at the family that were fined $100,000 for clearing the vegetation back away from their home.   At least they still have the home and their lives whilst their neighbours lost both.  Anyway mate I do apologise that i have jumped the gun with you. My comments are more directed at the Lyn&amp;#039;s, matts &amp;amp; Rods of the Green movement who are quoted in the above article. I&amp;#039;m pleased you have a more balanced view of life than they do.  Cheers mate.       </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Agmates Rural News : What The Greenies are saying about The Victorian Bush fires and Us Idiots.</title>
<link>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/13/what-the-greenies-are-saying-about-the-victorian-bush-fires-and-us-idiots/#IDComment15143461</link>
<description> G&amp;#039;day Syd,  Mate I know its probably difficult sitting up in rain soaked North QLD to come to grips with what has happened in Victoria.  It Disturbs me how you trivialize the loss of 181 (and counting) Australians and 1,800 family homes and 7,000 Australians left grieving and homeless.  It&amp;#039;s a natural disaster beyond anything we have ever seen. That&amp;#039;s without even considering the death of millions of animals.  What the above people and ourselves at Agmates have been arguing for is controlled burning to manage the risk.  They have been doing it in the WA forest since 1956 and in that time have not lost one single life to a bushfire and have a healthy and vibrant forest eco-system.  What really turns ordinary Australians off you green folk is that you actually let your love of the environment overcome your compassion for your fellow human beings.   The green movement can bleat all you like about what terrible people we are, but the reality is that when it comes to the crunch as demonstrated by the outpouring of compassion and support from the vast majority of the Australian public - we care more about our fellow Australians than we do about saving a tree or two.  Even that does not make sense - just tell me how you justify the utter destruction that these Mega fires (indisputably caused by the greens lock up and leave policies) do to the environment and wildlife.  Controlled burning in the cool months of winter does not kill trees, does not kill wildlife, does not kill our fellow Australians. Yet you all oppose it, you&amp;#039;d prefer to see the events of Black Saturday.   What you are advocating is to allow the built of of forest dry matter that eventually in the right conditions explodes in these horrific mega wildfires that kills everything and everyone in its path.  Cheers - Your Agmate - Steve (comment also posted as a reply to you on your blog)  </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/02/13/what-the-greenies-are-saying-about-the-victorian-bush-fires-and-us-idiots/#IDComment15143461</guid>
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