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<title>Big Peace : Sacrebleu: Does Liberty = Nazism?</title>
<link>http://bigpeace.com/dwest/2012/02/08/sacrebleu-does-liberty-nazism/#IDComment288250120</link>
<description>With the Muslim tents they have walking around there now you&amp;#039;d think the French would have the advantage, but still not working... </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Big Peace : Sacrebleu: Does Liberty = Nazism?</title>
<link>http://bigpeace.com/dwest/2012/02/08/sacrebleu-does-liberty-nazism/#IDComment288249609</link>
<description>I am talking about civilizations.  The Arab Muslims replaced the Assyrian culture, converted or subsumed or enslaved or slaughtered the native populations.  North Africa, with long Mediterranean influence, was a bastion of culture, intellectual pursuits, and economic development.  Here&amp;#039;s what happens to Assyrians, even to this day:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aina.org/news/20120208194830.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.aina.org/news/20120208194830.htm&lt;/a&gt;.  The Muslim civilization is a barbaric war-culture and &amp;quot;develops&amp;quot; through oppression and conquest.  There will never be a way of knowing what unimpeded trade with the region for the last thousand years would have allowed Africa to become, not to mention if it had not been Islamicized by force. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Big Journalism : Soledad OâBrien Hits Allen West with Bogus Food Stamp Numbers</title>
<link>http://bigjournalism.com/driehl/2012/02/08/soledad-obrien-hits-allen-west-with-bogus-food-stamp-numbers/#IDComment287929765</link>
<description>Dan Riehl, Amazingly, Infinite Jester has a very valid point.  I have looked at the charts, and cannot reconcile a 28 million baseline.  Can you share your number source with us, please? </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://bigjournalism.com/driehl/2012/02/08/soledad-obrien-hits-allen-west-with-bogus-food-stamp-numbers/#IDComment287929765</guid>
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<title>Big Hollywood : Madonna Targeted for Being Older and Female</title>
<link>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ekaris/2012/02/09/madonna-targeted-for-scorn-for-being-older-and-female/#IDComment287923849</link>
<description>I&amp;#039;d rather see a military rifle brigade or marching band competition winner or a few things like that. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ekaris/2012/02/09/madonna-targeted-for-scorn-for-being-older-and-female/#IDComment287923849</guid>
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<title>Big Hollywood : Madonna Targeted for Being Older and Female</title>
<link>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ekaris/2012/02/09/madonna-targeted-for-scorn-for-being-older-and-female/#IDComment287923170</link>
<description>Do you get extra money if you post on all the blogs you don&amp;#039;t really care or know anything about? </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ekaris/2012/02/09/madonna-targeted-for-scorn-for-being-older-and-female/#IDComment287923170</guid>
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<title>Big Hollywood : Painter's Anti-Obama Work Sparks Sales, Racism Charges</title>
<link>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/hollywoodland/2012/02/08/painters-anti-obama-work-sparks-sales-racism-charges/#IDComment287891371</link>
<description>One out of three ain&amp;#039;t bad. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/hollywoodland/2012/02/08/painters-anti-obama-work-sparks-sales-racism-charges/#IDComment287891371</guid>
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<title>Breitbart.tv : Elementary School Kids Indoctrinated About Obama's Incredible Awesomeness</title>
<link>http://tv.breitbart.com/elementary-school-kids-indoctrinated-about-obamas-incredible-awesomeness/#IDComment287889727</link>
<description>So, just saying it makes it so?  Then you can deride the idea that you made up and call other people names as a result?  That&amp;#039;s your angle?  That&amp;#039;s what passes for debate and the exchange of ideas in your head?  Let us know when and if you have any rational ideas or thoughts.  Because if this is it, you look like a real fool, and if you are truly an old man, than I am sorry for the little stature of your intellect compared to your years.  It&amp;#039;s too bad, really, time is supposed to teach wisdom.  And manners. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Breitbart.tv : Elementary School Kids Indoctrinated About Obama's Incredible Awesomeness</title>
<link>http://tv.breitbart.com/elementary-school-kids-indoctrinated-about-obamas-incredible-awesomeness/#IDComment287887322</link>
<description>But that&amp;#039;s hardly the point, is it?  Who cares about the President&amp;#039;s &amp;quot;race&amp;quot;? </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Breitbart.tv : Elementary School Kids Indoctrinated About Obama's Incredible Awesomeness</title>
<link>http://tv.breitbart.com/elementary-school-kids-indoctrinated-about-obamas-incredible-awesomeness/#IDComment287886606</link>
<description>&amp;quot;until&amp;quot; compared to what?  Other countries&amp;#039; sterling human rights achievements?  And, troll, this circle jerk for the faculty and staff did nothing for those children.  There was no &amp;quot;counterpoint&amp;quot;.  There was a &amp;quot;dear leader&amp;quot; real and a minister preaching in his finest Sunday voice about things those 2nd and 3rd graders had zero understanding.  White nothing.  Intellectual outrage.  God, you&amp;#039;re a sick, awful person.  What a rotten soul you have.  No one must like knowing you. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://tv.breitbart.com/elementary-school-kids-indoctrinated-about-obamas-incredible-awesomeness/#IDComment287886606</guid>
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<title>Breitbart.tv : Elementary School Kids Indoctrinated About Obama's Incredible Awesomeness</title>
<link>http://tv.breitbart.com/elementary-school-kids-indoctrinated-about-obamas-incredible-awesomeness/#IDComment287884124</link>
<description>They&amp;#039;ve almost got much of Western Europe already.  They knew where to strike first. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Breitbart.tv : Elementary School Kids Indoctrinated About Obama's Incredible Awesomeness</title>
<link>http://tv.breitbart.com/elementary-school-kids-indoctrinated-about-obamas-incredible-awesomeness/#IDComment287883556</link>
<description>Why, an education major, of course.  I swear, they are more than useless.  I never understood majoring in &amp;quot;education&amp;quot;.  That&amp;#039;s like becoming a doctor with a degree in &amp;quot;conversation.&amp;quot; </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Big Peace : Sacrebleu: Does Liberty = Nazism?</title>
<link>http://bigpeace.com/dwest/2012/02/08/sacrebleu-does-liberty-nazism/#IDComment287875547</link>
<description>Astounding.  Suicidal fools.  They have a 20% Muslim population.  It is nearly over for them, and they flash their underbellies at the dogs. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Big Peace : Sacrebleu: Does Liberty = Nazism?</title>
<link>http://bigpeace.com/dwest/2012/02/08/sacrebleu-does-liberty-nazism/#IDComment287874429</link>
<description>That he would knowingly defend the very society with the ethos of slavery, to this day, is mind-boggling.  He doesn&amp;#039;t realize how lucky he is to be the son of a slave.  Most African slaves of Arab Muslims and their African-Muslim convert slavemasters were *fully* castrated.  Most died of it, too. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Big Peace : Sacrebleu: Does Liberty = Nazism?</title>
<link>http://bigpeace.com/dwest/2012/02/08/sacrebleu-does-liberty-nazism/#IDComment287873277</link>
<description>Actually, the spread of Christianity (not by the sword!) enriched and fortified the Sumerian regions and Assyrian Christianity is one of the oldest sects.  But guess whose &amp;quot;live by the tip of the spear&amp;quot; religion crushed them into oblivion as their own culture?  Africa had a far brighter future without the scourge that vomited from Yemen and Saudi Arabia all over North and East Africa. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://bigpeace.com/dwest/2012/02/08/sacrebleu-does-liberty-nazism/#IDComment287873277</guid>
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<title>Alisina.org : Aisha: The Child Bride of Muhammad</title>
<link>http://alisina.org/aisha-the-child-bride-of-muhammad/#IDComment286541617</link>
<description>Congratulations.  You have answered none of the questions.  You are unable to defend your own misogyny.  I do not care how devout young Muslims are.  They are only more dangerous to themselves and others.  News?  I am reading your statements.  I am asking you questions about your positions, and you do not answer.  This makes all Muslims look untrustworthy if we can go this far and still not have you answer the questions put to you.  It also makes you, personally, look a little stupid, and too clever by half.  Answer the questions. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alisina.org : Aisha: The Child Bride of Muhammad</title>
<link>http://alisina.org/aisha-the-child-bride-of-muhammad/#IDComment286499424</link>
<description>((reposted from thread below)) &amp;ldquo;Mohammad didn&amp;#039;t need anyone to chaperone or give Khadijah away to him. He just worked with her, and liked her, and respected her, and wanted to get married. She said yes.&amp;rdquo;  Hmm, wrong story&amp;hellip; please check again ------------------------------------- The point is that they married of their own volition, did they not?  She liked him and he liked her, and after working together for a while, they fell in love and got married.  But now you&amp;#039;ve prissed it all up and turned it into a slave trade.  ---------------------------------------  Winoceros: Your implication here is that if the boy doesn&amp;#039;t want to marry the girl, that the parents should have recourse. What recourse is that, since you didn&amp;#039;t want to write it down earlier? What then?&amp;rdquo;  No, I was trying to imply that I will educate my family with guidance of Islamic teachings in accordance with my capabilities so I will not experience such a condition most likely to happen in a society where promiscuity is highly encouraged. -------------------------- Ostrich defense.  You cut out the part where you implied that the parents should be allowed some recourse, instead of being left laughing through their tears.  What recourse should that be?  (For other people, of course, since your family is perfect!) ------------------------------- Winoceros: &amp;ldquo;It disgusts me to no end that you consider a marriage a handoff of responsibility for a female&amp;#039;s upkeep to another male, as if she were a cow to be fed and watered. What is wrong with you backward thinkers? She is her own person! If you would let them work and go to school (ALL of them) and hold any position of authority they wish then you wouldn&amp;#039;t need to worry about making her someone else&amp;#039;s chattel and broodmare. What a disgusting culture.&amp;rdquo;  No, wrong assumption again. In Islam, mothers are those from whom children are getting their first education in life, so it is us the males that are to support their household needs, but please also notice that female Muslims are also encouraged to contribute in different aspects of life so long as they are doing it within Islamic principles by strictly upholding the heejab.  ------------------------------------------ This is quite possibly one of the most disgusting answers I have ever read.  You seem to have this overarching assumption, right down to your soiled little core, that she needs anyone&amp;#039;s permission to do anything at all.  She doesn&amp;#039;t need to do anything within the bounds of anything unless she wants to.  Why can&amp;#039;t you see that?  Do you like people to be slaves? ------------------------------------  Winoceros: &amp;ldquo;Also, I just wanted to affirm your choice of Bukhari as a collection of sahih ahadith. It seems that it&amp;#039;s such a reliable and valuable resource, it must be relied on by many, many Muslims, right?&amp;rdquo;  Hmm, your point?  --------------------------- Just convenient how Bukhari is a great resource when you have a point to make, but when others rely on it for exposing the filth that early Muslim followers were proud to record, somehow it&amp;#039;s unreliable.  Just checking. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Feb 2012 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alisina.org : What to Do with My Muslim Boyfriend? </title>
<link>http://alisina.org/what-to-do-with-my-muslim-boyfriend/#IDComment286489678</link>
<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFMcWjaMXwo&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFMcWjaMXwo&amp;amp;fe...&lt;/a&gt;  Please be safe.  Remember...in the end, you don&amp;#039;t have a say in what happens to you.  You will either submit or flee.  Please, please be safe. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alisina.org : Aisha: The Child Bride of Muhammad</title>
<link>http://alisina.org/aisha-the-child-bride-of-muhammad/#IDComment286462183</link>
<description>One another question on the topic of your crazy logic:  How do you tell the difference between a &amp;quot;girl&amp;#039;s&amp;quot; assent through silence, and her fear of saying &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; due to consequences such that she doesn&amp;#039;t speak?  I mean, how would you know? </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alisina.org : Aisha: The Child Bride of Muhammad</title>
<link>http://alisina.org/aisha-the-child-bride-of-muhammad/#IDComment286443190</link>
<description>((reposted from below for clarity in the thread.)) @ winoceros  Winoceros: &amp;ldquo;Here is my explanation: I would not kill my daughter, nor force her to marry, even if she were &amp;quot;silent&amp;quot;. You have not explained what you would do.&amp;rdquo;  I did say to you that I will have much smaller chance of having to deal with such condition if I stick to Islamic teachings and I am sure that my children&amp;rsquo;s journeys in life start in my own family.  If I am still alive when a truthful caliphate has risen then I would ask the caliph&amp;rsquo;s or his truthful companion&amp;rsquo;s opinions about what I should do if such a case happened to me.  But like I also told you, Rasulullah has advised us to have a fatwa from our hearts to deal with a condition where no truthful caliph is ruling and &amp;lsquo;maksiats&amp;rsquo; are everywhere to find.  What we are doing here now is to return to Islamic teachings as a couple of decades back, we were not paying that much attention. ------------------------- You have avoided the question now for the third or fourth time.  Are you that arrogant so as to assume hardship won&amp;#039;t befall you and yours?  These things only happen to other people?  Infidels because they&amp;#039;re so dirty?  Answer the question:  What would you do and what should happen if the boy in question doesn&amp;#039;t want to marry the girl?  Should there be a law that compels some action?  If so, what? ----------------------- Winoceros: &amp;ldquo;The more you write, the more you lay out why no sane human would ever follow this degenerate cult.&amp;rdquo;  Don&amp;rsquo;t mean to be bragging&amp;hellip; but hey look around and see even there are more people of your own getting tired of the American way while some of them start coming into Islam. Are you saying they are insane? -------------------------- The &amp;quot;American way&amp;quot; isn&amp;#039;t a religion, so you just highlight that Islam isn&amp;#039;t really a religion either, since you compare them so comfortably, but a lifestyle.  And, oh God, yes, they are utterly insane, and self-loathing. ---------------------------------  Winoceros: &amp;ldquo;Silence is consent? You even have the temerity to write that it applies to a girl, not a woman. What girl? Underaged girls? 16? 15? 12? Does it matter to Muslims how old she is? Why can&amp;#039;t she just pick her own husband and mind your own business? What does she need these controlling elders for? If she&amp;#039;s 18 she shouldn&amp;#039;t need your permission for anything anyway.&amp;rdquo;  Again, you are promoting your culture here. While me, I was just explaining the Islamic concept of marriage. Whether you want to accept, deny, or ignore them, it is all up to you. --------------------------- Oh, I know what you were explaining. You did that instead of answering the question.  I&amp;#039;m not interested in Islam&amp;#039;s marriage laws.  I&amp;#039;m interested in the human right to exert control over one&amp;#039;s own relationships, existence, health, and personal liberty.  What do you mean when you say &amp;quot;girl&amp;quot; and at what age does her &amp;quot;silence&amp;quot; no longer mean consent?  A two-year old is silent, and (possibly) unpenetrated, is she marriage material?  I know, that&amp;#039;s silly, right?  Ok, what about six?  Eight?  Nine?  Eleven?  They&amp;#039;re pretty talkative at that age!  Answer the question. -----------------------------  Winoceros: &amp;ldquo;What does pornography have to do with anything? There is more downloaded porn in the Muslim world than anywhere else on the planet. You, as a whole, are a sexually repressed and frustrated people, and you do it to yourselves. Self-control is different than this stifling, unnatural repression that you codify yourselves into living.&amp;rdquo;  Pornography of course is a media that easily leads teenagers to promiscuity . I&amp;rsquo;m not denying that it probably is true that porn is downloaded more in the Muslim countries. But I also would like to confirm that we are finding this very destructive and how I have seen people I that know familiar with porn are getting sick of it and regretted that they once were.  ------------ Utterly irrelevant, as was bringing it up in the first place.  Who thinks porn isn&amp;#039;t harmful?   What does that have to do with a person&amp;#039;s freedom to marry who and when they choose, and pursue the life they wish without threat of violent harm or incarceration for not following the moral values of others? </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alisina.org : Aisha: The Child Bride of Muhammad</title>
<link>http://alisina.org/aisha-the-child-bride-of-muhammad/#IDComment286397571</link>
<description>&amp;lt;&amp;lt;Arab American News reported that the last recorded dispute between Jessica Mokdad and her stepfather was over the wearing of the hijab (head scarf), which he originally forced her to wear (just as in the honor murder of Canadian teen Aqsa Parvez). Jessica didn&amp;#039;t want to wear it, thereby bringing shame on him and the family. Her stepfather, Rahim Alfetlawi, who murdered her, was pathologically controlling, after the pattern of honor killers. At one point she called her father and told him: &amp;quot;Dad, I can&amp;#039;t live here anymore, he&amp;#039;s too strict, I can&amp;#039;t even go to the store to buy a pop if I want.&amp;quot;  Macomb County Assistant Prosecutor Bill Contaldo said: &amp;quot;He thought she was becoming too Westernized. I think this was a very nice young lady wanting to experiment with Western culture without control and without abuse.&amp;quot; The Detroit Free Press reported: &amp;quot;Mokdad&amp;#039;s mother told police that Alfetlawi felt so shamed by her daughter&amp;#039;s Western ways, he killed her in an honor killing,&amp;quot; Warren Police Sgt. Stephen Mills said. Alfetlawi was so concerned about her behavior that he even forced her to go to a mosque and marry her boyfriend.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  Jessica is dead because she wasn&amp;#039;t Muslim enough for her devout stepfather.   In the absense of the true caliph, of course, what punishment should he receive? </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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