Thanks for the tip!

Thank you for the kind words. Scott is the truly brave one though, IMO. :)

Thanks for spreading Scott's story. :)

YES. When that working class neighborhood just fights back and Andy joins in, I feel such utter joy, every time.

It's what everyone should have done from the beginning, instead of selling each other out, just fight back, TOGETHER.

I had heard they were doing more, but I thought they would be with this new cast. Now that I've looked this up and seen NO! IANTO IS IN THEM! I am so so excited! fun fun fun fun!

Hmmm, I recognize that this might be very USian-centric but I wouldn't call all of these guys "pale"...

Yes. This episode, with all it's "THIS IS FUCKED UP" -ness is why I love this season so very much. And you responded to everything exactly as I did so I'll just leave it at that. Same page? We are on it.

Seriously though, one of the biggest emotional crashes ever, from joyous fist pumping "yeah Torchwood is going to make it better, FUCK YOU GUYS" to "omfg well that's what we call shit hitting a fan I'm going to crawl into a corner and cry for a while now." Watched the series a few times now and it still gets me.

Poor Ianto. (Btw you've GOT to listen to the radio play "The Dead Line," it makes me feel just slightly better about this whole thing, maybe it would for you too).

(But for the record I'd be ok if the writers threw logic out the window and resurrected Ianto somehow) (But I guess that's what fanfic is for....)

And you've got an immortal guy and a building that can shut down for biological attack? So... why do you send the guy who can die in with the immortal guy? Why don't you first evacuate the building and lock it down?

Because Jack is often really fucking reckless with the lives of the people around him.

He's immortal, and even though he's tortured by that fact, and the fact that he's constantly leaving people behind while he goes on and on and on, he also forgets that while he's indestructible, those around him aren't.

He's taken chances with their lives all the time (and so does The Doctor, who I partly blame for instilling this in Jack though clearly he was like this beforehand at least somewhat) in the past and you know what? It usually works out. That's how he's lived his life. Waking up in bed with your executioners and staying in touch afterwards, right?

That's Jack.

And we love that about him.

But sometimes? It's not always going to work out. In the "real world" that kind of behavior is going to get you killed (like it got him killed on Satellite Five) and if not you, then those around you.

That's why I don't hate RTD after this episode, I hate Jack. I still love him too, but there's nothing contrived about that same reckless streak we've seen over and over again getting Ianto killed one day.

Oh Rhys, I love you, but seriously, cocking blocking with beans is unforgivable.

I just want to like grab his arm and usher him out of the room going "shhhhhhhh!"