Well at least they were dressed in their Sunday best for that experience of a lifetime...
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Seems you misunderstand, I am not advocating FOR abortion. Do you have a reading disability?

Catholic TaxPayers pay waay more in taxes than any Grants given to the Church (among other groups). It's not even close. So, it's not the Government's money, it's our money!

Really? It's your money? So I can go get MY tax dollars back from the government to spend on MY favorite charities? LMAO, I don't think so!

If YOUR Catholic money has been co-mingled with MY Protestant money, it's NOT YOUR money, it's OUR money... and I don't get a say in how it is spent, since I don't have the clout of the CC. If you can't see that this is usurpation of individual rights, and freedom you need to be deprogrammed.

All those people in Eugene who are going to suffer so terribly might just learn to function independently... or perhaps the St. Vincent dePaul Society will find a windfall of donations from private sources to take up the slack.

You made my point perfectly. With MY money good caring people like you can never seem to figure out where to draw the line on what is enough. With your own money you would have to pick and choose your projects more carefully, wouldn't you? This "partnering" and "contracting" church charities and organizations are doing with the Feds is dangerous for the independence of those orgs. Their ambitions seem to always overload their ability to produce. The difference is giving a man a fish... or teaching him to fish.

The question I have for you, will the "church" work harder to find the money to continue those projects the U.S. Government has been "contracting" with them to carry out, once WE THE PEOPLE demand this misdirection of taxpayer money is stopped? Doing good works does not change the fact that I don't get a say in where this "contract" money is being spent. Who makes those choices? The church, or the Fed Gov. , neither of which is answerable to me. This is exactly how and why the Fed Gov has become a blundering behemoth of pure foolishness pandering to whichever group screams the loudest at any particular point in time. We need a much smaller government, and we will get it... eventually. When that happens communities will have to make the hard decisions of which projects are really necessary. It will be quite interesting to see what gets dropped.
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REDNECKS RULE!!!

My favorite place to people watch...
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My point evidently flew right past you, Mr Thinking. You are right about the government overreach being frightening, however equally frightening is the church's lack of morality in failing to recognize that using their considerable political influence to push funding to their own pet projects is an usurpation of our will.

ALL religious institutions should only raise money through charitable donations to fund their community projects. Religious institutions have altered their focus from influencing political outcomes through enlisting their faithful to be involved in local politics, to attempting to reach their goals through cronyism aimed directly toward our elected officials. In other words they have eliminated the middle man... WE THE PEOPLE.

They have joined the Elite Ruling Class, who believe themselves to be vastly intellectually, morally and ethically superior to us, and deem themselves more fit than we, to make decisions for our "best" interest. What too many fail to recognize here is the church and the Dem party are co-dependent addicts. The Dem party pushes much of the social agenda of the collectivist church, and the church advocates for the Dems in their parishes/ congregations by praising the Dems for spending lavishly on social programs that will ultimately destroy our capitalistic system, based on individual freedom and personal liberty.
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How about auditing the current bureaucrats, and firing the incompetent ones... What a novel idea!

If we can get a seriously frugal administration in place in 2013 they sure are gonn'a look like a bunch'a meanies with all the lay-offs of o-HOLE's recently hired millions of minions. He's buying this election, using OUR money...

WHAT A COUNTRY!!!

Every word you have written is correct, however you fail to view the church hierarchy as not only masters of the flock (notice, the church is NOT a democracy wherein the faithful have input) but also the salesmen of the faith. One of their goals is to continually expand that flock,... thus their clear contempt for U.S. Immigration law, and pressure on our political class to ignore the law of our land, branding it immoral. Remember GWB scolding WE THE PEOPLE, hinting we who begged for immigration enforcement/ border control after 9/11/01 were racist? Hell, that stupid @$$ Newt (the newly minted Catholic) fell into the same cesspool not too long ago. Fresh new immigrants, legal or not are the American Church's last best hope. Anyone who knows what has happened to the Church in Europe over the last 50 years understands this only too well. They are engaged in a fight for their survival in the western world, where all the money exists.

I was still watching Fox & Friends every morning during the run up to the 2008 election. When Hillary's chances at the nomination tanked some gal with the title of "Lady" Lynn Rothschild began to appear regularly, advertising herself as a Dem against Obama. I don't remember which (R) candidate she was supporting, but I DO remember that the "hosts" of that program treated her as though she were royalty. My point is, I guess WE THE PEOPLE of the U.S.A. actually DO have an American aristocracy after all... WHO KNEW???
Thanks for providing those links. I had read some if that before, but a refresher is always good.
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NO guts... NO GLORY!!!
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We MUST have a law that forces all who run for State & Federal office, as well as those on their staffs to completely and fully divest themselves from ownership of investments that could benefit from knowledge they might gain due to their public service. Of course there should be stiff penalties for anyone found breaking this law, or its intent.

Never happen, but we're Americans, we should shoot for excellence, shouldn't we? The demand for ETHICS and MORALITY must originate with us.

but... but... but, didn't you hear that doofus o-HOLE claiming birth control drugs prevent cancer in a recent speech? I'm holding my breath for the MSM to ask him to offer his sources for that statement...
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