I love how they include 2012 though it was only 18 days in. Makes a much nicer chart at a glance if you're trying to mitigate a disastrous appearance.

Example: http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/08/22/dear-antiw...

I was actually going to say, Code Pink has been involved in mic-checking Obama here and there, and would be surprised if they weren't in NH. John, maybe a correction is in order?

Neither Walsh nor anyone else here at Antiwar.com had or have anything at all do with Bush. Try again.

Eh, Chomsky is wrong on this. That said, there is a LARGE proportion of American libertarians who do not fancy themselves what we call "vulgar" libertarians -- the kind that says food stamps are an unfair evil while corporate welfare is "just how the game is played." They have an automatic prejudice for corporations and business in the same way many on the left have an automatic prejudice against it. Both positions are equally ridiculous. Many of us are mutualist anarchists, anti-estate syndicalists, Tuckerite voluntaryists, and any combination thereof. The Rand faction and the LP types are the reason I don't even call myself libertarian anymore. They're so distasteful and unattractively right-wing.

Also, LOL at saying Thomas Jefferson didn't like wage labor. I think we all know that's true.

It's certainly true that there is a combination of welfare state services that work better than here -- no argument, really, just look around. And frankly, I'd take a peaceful Scandi welfare state over the ineffectual, disastrous US one in a second. They may come with their own problems but nothing comparing to what we get here.

War and attacks on civil liberty mean we have SO MUCH MORE to deal with in the US. Be best to tear it all down. Reform is impossible.

You mean you don't see any reason to throw out the fantasy of such a system. Because that is what we have always had. And at least for you, it seems to have worked in its main goal -- making the powerless feel they have a stake/say. They don't. Just look at what actually happens. Are you going to make them stick to the Constitution? No.

"Ayn Rand" is the progressives' Godwin's Law. Yawn.

"While a libertarian opposes war simply out of fear of government power, a progressive opposes war out of concern for the lives and livelihoods of those involved."

Lie. Libertarians fear government power because they care about their fellow humans. Obviously. In fact, grassroots progressivism has an identical motivation to libertarianism, but some of us are more anti-authoritarian than others, and have a different understanding of people's motivations (i.e., economics).

It's sweet you think "the people" can own and run political power. Actually no, it's dangerous and has us right where we are now -- looking for a savior in the next most successful backstabber to rise to national prominence. But hey, good luck voting for.... whom exactly?

The American voter should envy Sisyphus. At least he gets the boulder up the hill each time.

Where were libertarians? Here, encouraging people to protest his wars and power grabs. There, protesting the Afghanistan and Iraq wars before they happened -- with progressives, thinking they'd be around as allies the next time.

Libertarian is not conservative, and has nothing to do with Bush. You know this, so stop that.

John's point is that MOST progressives -- clearly not all, as YOU and many like you are here at Antiwar.com -- have made the choice for what they think will be slightly better lives for already rich whites at the literal, one-for-one expense of the mass death of brown people far away. So who is more racist and greedy -- libertarians or Obama progs?

No, we shouldn't, for reasons explained above and below by paulBass