lol, christo-zombie :)

Enjoy your brainwash! reality is fine you should jump on in <span class="idc-smiley"><span style="background-position: -36px 0pt;"><span>;)</span></span></span>

Other than that, just like your beliefs, a kinda shallow comment with no real meat to it.

Rather than approach what I am saying, you just post personal attacks, an error of reasoning yet again!

lol

Umm, 2 dimensions? That is flat space, like on a sheet of paper .. do you understand what you are saying sounds silly? You think I am a cartoon character or something?

It is simply wishful thinking you are doing, an error of reasoning called a logical fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking#As_...

There is no evidence at all for a supernatural dimension. Define what a spirit is and it's function for me. You claim truth, well show us your evidence for it, rather than just claim it with airy-fairy words and assertions that it exists. It's empty and shallow rhetoric. There is no driving reason or need for one to exist, nor any evidence that points to there having to be it as an explanation. It is purely a leap to a conclusion based on no evidence.

For the most part my experience with people claiming 'spirits' or 'souls' or 'everything is connected', their definitions of exactly what that is are either not even thought out and it's just a term for nothing really, or using occams razor we find a lot simpler explanations exist.

Dunno if you have seen it, really good video just a little off topic on 'open mindedness' and what it means, gotta love QualiaSoup's videos. It will do you a world of good to watch it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

Until you can explain what 'spirit' means and is, you might as well be saying 'You can't prove sarhgdrfhadrha doesn't exist'

Do you also believe in leprechauns?

I love how you call me "selfrighteous and the arrogant" by "hiding behing 'satire' ", while using all that very same invective yourself, ... hypocrite :p

"Critical Review and parody site of the JAAL campaign" is quite prominently in the header. You are all pissed because you see folk confronting your claims that your ilk should have status, rights and privileges above other Australians. Of course you are going to call the waaaa-mbulance over it. Poor old sod.

Your beliefs are perverse, not logical and lead to violent actions in the name of your god, something that is by far a logical impossiblility.

You are offensive and your beliefs have no right to stand on top of others just because you claim your sky fairy exists.

If you don't want to be laughed at, don't have such laughable beliefs. :p

I love how you pick myself out of the conversation instead of the theist.

But really, time on my hands? Because I am able to answer queries in depth using my noggin'?

If that's your only reply I feel a little sorry for you, something must be a little stuck up there if you consider my responses took a lot of time. I can assure you they didn't. This stuff aint rocket science.

takes me a little longer with rocket science ...

What a retarded thing to do for a supernatural entity. I mean really, what kind of sacrifice is it if you put something that is yourself thru a bit of pain knowing full well you exist forever in 'heaven'. That's not a sacrifice. Anyway he is supposed to be god he could just click his fingers and do stuff like that, including stop 35,000 kids dying of starvation every day. An omni-benevolent god by its very nature, if it had the ability to help these children, would. Since there is not help from supernatural realms for them, one can only come to the conclusion god is bullshit.
Enjoy your fantasy, sounds more like you are simply scared of hell. Got a gun to your head if you don't believe eh? in one hand a bribe of heaven, the other eternal damnation. Some 'father'.

Because if it was a convention of accountants it would be eligible for funding. The fuss is that the only reasoning that the funding was delayed for even an answer is because of the philosophical position it is.
Get all thingy about religion? Have you read some of the issues presented on the site as to WHY get all thingy about religion? Religion claims rights above and beyond others in our society, just because they believe in a fairy. I'd get just as thingy about astrology if it got tax breaks and an astrologer was funded by our government to teach it in our schools as truth.

Yea? I find it interesting that you feel that you don't. It's just empty rhetoric you put forward, with no evidence nor reasoning for your claim and wonder why folk such as myself see it as more a brainwashed reaction to discussion than any real contribution regarding putting forward what you think. You can think about it can't you? Can you explain a bit more about what you are actually saying, as your comment seems rather empty.

"when it does so it can permanently remove information from the species"

Define this 'information' you are talking about. I don't think you have a concept over what DNA information is.

"Certainly not by mutations as observations show that these copying mistakes are only adding diseases to the species."

Um, no, show us these observations. Here read this plus references :

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB102.html

Show me these 'observations' you are talking about.

"Recent research clearly showns that humans have up to a trillion mistakes in our DNA and as we populate the mistakes are increased."

Sigh, you are again just making claims that are wrong, where is your references?

http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/DNA-Repl...

"Mr Dawkins claims to have some evidence for evolution but all he is saying is that there are different varieties of dogs and foxes. Why does he claim then to have evidence when there is none."

Umm no, try reading his latest book for a start, he explains your mistake explicitly. He is explicitly talking about common descent.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

Try actually citing references for your claims. Your claims about atheism, evolution etc are also just simply wrong. You have an error of reasoning called a logical fallacy, specifically the Straw Man argument.

Ian, atheism is not anything more than not having a belief in a god, there is no claims inherent to it that is 'all about lies'. I will respond to each post with a separate comment.

"It claims to know all about everything everywhere and cannot observe the Almighty and so incorrectly attributes God's creation to chance."

Atheism does not make any claims. It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods. That's it, and simply because you claim to have an answer to a question does not make that answer correct.

If you are refering to evolution with regard 'chance' it is anything but. The Theory of Evolution is about natural selection, which is not chance, but a definite process of selection.

"Atheism requires a cause and it's foundational claim is that that chance made the cosmos and life."

Your wrong. Atheism only means you are not a theist. Atheism means you do not have a belief in a god or gods, that is it. Look it up. It claims nothing. You are making a claim, an atheist just does not have a belief your claim is true.

"Furthemore it claims evolution built all the species by chance but there is no valid mechanism amking evolution a dodgy fabrication"

Coming from someone with no evidence at all for their claim? LOL

Again, natural selection is not chance. You really need to read about evolution as you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is some evidence for evolution : http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

"The only conceivable mechansim for evoltuion is mutation and natural selection as Darwin hypothesized. Both remove information from the genome and hence move in the opposite direction to where evolution needs to go."

That's simply not true. You may find pictures helpful as you obviously have trouble reading up about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14KTshLUkg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9u50wKDb_4

Beryl, simple answer is what would your jesus do? (and this coming from an atheist direct to you oh believer. Can you say irony?)

Would your jesus see a reasoning for this, in that the school has to uphold uniform standards? This has been the argument from so many christians. Or that it will open the doors to folk protesting in so many other ways? is that it? if they allow this, next thing you know folk will be protesting animal injustice with nose rings? Is that really how shallow the arguments are? Indeed!

As an atheist, how come I see this as a great wrong-doing, yet many christians argue school uniform standards need to be upheld, which is the only reasoning that has been given.

The school is able to decide on this case on it's merits, and it has done so in no uncertain terms. It's position has been quite clear, and like many christian concepts of 'morals' they have no understanding as to why others are offended.

Indeed one Father Mick Mac Andrew Bombala-Delegate NSW wrote on cathnews as a retort :

"A family, when it enrolls its child or children in a Catholic School, needs to realise that the code of behaviour required to uphold the good of the school to be enjoyed by all the student s includes a very significant contribution by the parents to see it is upheld."

Was he just saying MONEY is the issue here? That people pay good money to the school for standards to be upheld?

It's not just atheists seeing this as just downright WRONG, it is other christians as well, and there is very good reasoning for this. What I fail to see, is why the catholics, and folk such as yourself, are not seeing that a wrong has been done here, but closing your doors to protect your 'institution'

There appears not to be just 'a few bad apples' here, there is endemic loss of basic humanistic understanding.

The church is losing followers Beryl, as people look at it and see that it is not a force of good in the world. It consistantly maintains dogma regardless of people. It refuses to look at situations and looks at laws it has setup. It is more worried about 'standards' than people.

I am disgusted at the response by those supporting the school with this poor girl and her dying father.

Her FATHER IS DYING, and I see the school arguing about dress code and people such as yourself lamenting the fact others find the school doing what it did, and saying something about it, more important to confront than her families feelings and the fact this poor girl is losing her father.

Your more concerned about being told off, than her situation.

Disgusting.

Damn right somethings wrong, and it's not in those trying to point it out to you. It's people so addled by their religious institutions they can't even see what they are doing, or right a grievous wrong.