en-us http://www.intensedebate.com/users/319692 Comments by U2Dave http://bigjournalism.com/fross/2010/09/23/caption-contest-oval-office-edition/#IDComment100565345 Help me move Theodore Parker to his rightful place....damn you quotes.com. Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:32:55 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/fross/2010/09/23/caption-contest-oval-office-edition/#IDComment100565345 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99965763 lol no doubt those dangerous stoned drivers driving under the speed limit. Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:15:36 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99965763 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99965409 "If it really helps the sick, then they can get a prescription.." LOL IF you're not convinced it helps the sick and yet you've got scrips for everyone in the family. I've gotten the pic all along you're not being consistent. lol I know how it works.... You don't want it legalized for monetary reasons and monetary reasons alone. Best of luck man. Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:13:10 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99965409 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99964052 For someone who gets angry about people assuming things, even after asking people to do so, you sure do a lot of assuming, there's a word for that. "No reason to respond" and yet you do, I think there's a word for that too. You clearly have short term memory problems: "Yee Hawww...........I been wonderin when we were gunna do hand to hand with the POT HEADS again!!! And a rollickin GOOD TIME will be had by ALL.... 'cause they are sooooo easy to whup up on. Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" DO YOU REMEMBER WRITING THIS, IT STARTED THE ENTIRE THREAD. YOUR BATTLE CRY! Do you not read or remember anything that you write? You started this entire thread with whupn on some people, sorry I said stompn instead of whupn you seemed intelligent enough to get what I was talking about, well then again you don't remember writing that sentiment so never mind that was my mistake. You've yet to whup on anyone. You were the one that was out of the gate full speed ahead I'm going to tell all these people how the world has to be according to me and my situation. Even though the "safe guards" of illegality were already in place. Do you get that part because that is the important part you seem to be forgetting. So at the end of the day your brother made a decision that cost your family a lot of money. Why didn't your father call the police when your brother was threatening him for money? I'd hate to ASSUME OR "READ BETWEEN THE LINES" why that was.... No my friends parents weren't charged with anything because they told him NOT to mow the lawn because they were RESPONSIBLE and they knew it was DANGEROUS just as HE did. HE made the DECISION to mow the lawn. It was HIS CHOICE that killed him. Why would I blame the parents or ask that laws be instituted to make sure this never happened again. All the information was on the table to begin with just like with marijuana. SHOW ME WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION YOUR POSITION IS SUPPORTED! YOU ARE A BIG BELIEVER IN THE CONSTITUTION RIGHT? COME ON "WHUP" ON ME WHERE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS IN THE CONSTITUTION. Do you drink? Nobody likes to answer that question......because you would be a hypocrite and you know it. That poison is acceptable....right. It hasn't caused any harm in anyone's life....do you advocate we go back to the days of prohibition? That didn't work out so well then either. If you want to end the drug war make weed legal, boom end of drug war. Make them compete like civilized businesses. Did no one learn anything in American history class? Oh and as far as driving fast goes I do believe they have these things called race tracks where you can drive your car as fast as you can and it's legal. Public roadways are not race tracks but if you should decide you want to drive fast there are legal places to do so. Get the difference at all.....still not whupn anyone.... I've stated clearly, because I remember writing it, that I'm not advocating legalization for medical reasons I'm advocating legalizing/decriminalizing it for personal liberty reasons. It's in this thread you should go back and read the whole thing....you can find out what you wrote it'll be like a little refresher course. Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:03:34 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99964052 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99716648 LOL It's either complete BS or you're original statement that started this convo is. What did I manage to out you as an undercover weed grower who's against medicinal marijuana? Good luck to you if you are cause the Feds are on the loose again co-opt busting and seizing property. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:03:20 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99716648 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99714780 ROFL Has all that alcohol consumption lead to anarchy? What would it take to convince you that pot smokers can be conservative? Do you think old Ronald Reagan ever lit up? (he's the secret anarchist pot leader don't ya know) Maybe.... it's certainly possible right, he used to be a lib and then became a conservative.....maybe it was because he got loaded.....ever think about that.....didn't think so. Have a little faith in the stoner conservatives, we've got your back even though you hate us and think we're the boogie man.......(here comes some sarcasm so be ready for it) because we're trying to take over the world and we're going to do it with weed you see......damn I can't believe you actually figured us out so quickly.....those EOD guys you just can't get anything by them. Best of luck to you man and thank you for your service. You do our country proud. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:37:58 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99714780 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99713424 No one was giving you anything. They were expressing their opinion about marijuana, you're the one that was giving all the crap. Who said anything about your service, they were all stunned that you were insulting them. Unless I just don't understand inter-service rivalry. You never answered my question do you drink or smoke? Do you? That's the one that no one likes to answer because if you do you're being a hypocrite and you damn well know it. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:20:47 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99713424 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99712595 "I fully believe that Potheads such as yourself and the others on this Board would vote for a Flaming Liberal (any Flaming Liberal) if said Flaming Liberal came out in support of the total legalization of Marajuana in the United States of America." And you would be wrong! Do you think that no one has tried that? That's the point we want a conservative in office who understands what true liberty is all about...don't you? How do you feel about Palin supporting decriminalizing it? Would that be ok for us to support her in her efforts to let a free people be free? A little pot would do you some good relax already we're on the same team. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:13:27 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99712595 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99712125 Go take a hit and relax, you seem to be wound a little tight. I'm not one for insulting service men and women because I think you guys do some incredibly brave things. That being said I also don't take well to people insulting other service members either. Which you seem to have no problems with doing. Where's the honor in that? So tell me do you drink to relax or smoke cigarettes? If it's yes to either of those you might want to reconsider your silly 'text book' marijuana boogie man act. You sound like you're trying to fight a bunch of hippies from the 70's because they spit on you when returned......accept you're suddenly the guy doing the spitting on other military service men. Despicable. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:07:41 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99712125 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99710785 LOL I'd imagine that you're probably shocked by the number of thumbs up you have. That's the rub....most conservatives that I know smoke weed, some more often than others but it's not really all that uncommon. I'm actually more blown away by the number of people who keep talking about it like it's the most dangerous drug on the market. It's less harmful than alcohol and cigarettes. That's why any conservative that does either of those two things might want to think twice about taking the governments side on this argument. Unless you're ready to buck up and ban alcohol and cigarettes you're being a hypocrite. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:50:55 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99710785 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99690226 "there is much more to this real life soap opera that I don't choose to speak about in this forum, but I will reiterate one thought from above, perhaps you will read between the lines." You asked us to "read between the lines" because you know you are being vague about this subject so don't be surprised when we make assumptions. You've asked us to. What you are describing sounds like an alcoholic or a meth head, or heroin addict and not a pot smoker. A lot of hard core addicts will use marijuana to bring themselves down or mellow out their feelings of withdrawal. They'll say they're a pot head because they think that's more acceptable than admitting what they're really addicted to. You've yet to stomp anyone's argument or put forth a compelling case as to why it should be illegal. For example it is illegal and this tragedy still happened to your family. So clearly marijuana just being illegal isn't going to stop this situation from happening again. So do we double illegalize it, make it punishable by death....what? That's what we should do with alcoholics because mean drunks suck. How about some discussion about the mental illness that your brother had, which is another assumption but if I am to believe he was merely a pot head than something else has to explain the strange behavior he exhibited. Your argument is based on no one being responsible in your family, not your brother, not your parents and not you're sister in law and nephews. So the government needs to step in more yaaaaa government!!! Give me more government! Lots and lots of government, don't we all just love that here. Good grief. I'll ask this again since you...uh....didn't read it ;-) My friend died mowing the lawn he had asthma, should mowing the lawn with asthma be illegal. It was tragic to me growing up and especially to his family. Should it be illegal? I'm truly not trying to make light of your families situation it is terrible and no one should have to experience that but it sounds like one of those worst possible situation where everything goes wrong and it's not typical. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:23:37 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99690226 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99689122 Show me a crack head that doesn't drink.....it must be the alcohol. Show me a crack head that wasn't born to parents......it must be the parents. Everyone who's ever eaten a carrot will die.....it's a fact and an undisputed fact at that. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:10:34 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99689122 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99688572 You can't tell when you're brothers high? It's probably when he can't walk or read.....lol That alone should be an indication that some of your preconceived notions about marijuana are ridiculously off base. Don't get me wrong I'm not arguing for medicinal marijuana I'm arguing for decriminalizing it and making it legal like the founding fathers intended our personal liberties to be. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:04:29 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99688572 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99687076 "Most people have absolutely no clue about chemical dependency" and clearly by your posts neither do you. I'll tell you this much no one ever died because they took a hundred bong hits, the same can not be said about aspirin now can it. Try to be honest this one time. For the record Missy believes weed makes you incapable of walking and reading.....ROFLMAO Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:48:19 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99687076 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99685448 I was listening perhaps next time you could actually have a reason, I think you HAHO'd far to early on that one because your response drifted way off course. So what is your vested interest in it remaining illegal do you own a prison or are you a pot dealer? How do you feel about Palin smoking weed does that exclude her from running for president? Or do you actually dislike Palin and you're avatar is meant to mock her, this here little "Skippy" would like to know. Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:31:23 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99685448 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99684337 onecornpone and Missy8 are here from the government and they're tying to help.....establish a more authoritarian government where personal liberties are no longer conserved because they forgot what being a conservative actually means. You do get that you are the one siding with the government on this one......right.... Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:19:31 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99684337 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99682213 Thank you Kristine! Finally some rational thought on the subject. Let's quit talking about medical marijuana and just admit that it should be legal period. I think most people on this site and conservatives in general would be shocked to find out how many people that are friends, business associates, business partners, store owners, bosses, teachers you name it that smoke weed. I wish there could be, with out repercussions, an out of the closet weed day. Where everyone who smoked wore something to signify that they did. It would shock people to find out that people they trust and respect are the feared "Pot Heads." I use pot head interchangeably with pot smoker even though they are some what different. One smokes all day long and one smokes at the end of the day. The number of thumbs up you've got should be an indication to all you "pure evil" people just how many conservative actually do toke up and or understand true liberty. Thanks again for your post! Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:56:49 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99682213 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99679831 That sounds like a terrible example as to why you shouldn't toke and drive. LOL Finding their way back home is different than trying to navigate and unknown maze that one is not used to driving. So pot heads can be more focused than sober people....imagine that. Some of the worst driving I've ever seen has been done by sober people and some of the most attentive driving I've ever seen has been done by intoxicated people because they double their effort to pay attention. I'm not advocating driving under the influence but sober people wreck just as much if not more than intoxicated people. Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:31:01 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99679831 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99679270 I'm pretty sure your Avatar is for some decriminalization of marijuana. This is about personal liberties and being free to make decisions about what we put in our bodies. Do you really want the government deciding what you can and can't put in your body. How do you feel about salt being banned or taxed ridiculously? What about sugar that can lead to heart disease should we ban that as well, or can we just let the citizens decide what they want to put into their own bodies because this they are adult and this is America. I'm not arguing for some namspamsy medical anything, it shouldn't be illegal to begin with. You want the drug wars to end make weed legal. End of drug war. Just like prohibition didn't stop anyone from drinking. Does no one remember any American history. Prohibition brought us the Kennedy's look how that turned out. Who's going to be the next moronic political dynasty because they made their fortunes in the black market of marijuan. Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:24:53 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99679270 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99677245 Yes Missy I will be just as outraged that the Government tells me I can't have a twinkie, just as if they told me I couldn't have a gun!!! You're no where near informed enough about this topic to be commenting on it. We're talking about personal liberties, I value my freedom to do as I see fit, why don't you? I know plenty of people that don't smoke weed that get why it should be decriminalized....are you a Palin fan???? She weighted in intelligently on the subject matter. Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:06:12 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/reasontv/2010/09/17/no-accepted-medical-use-three-perspectives-on-medical-cannabis/#IDComment99677245